Why do some people think you have to quit vaping after quitting smoking??

[AndriaD]

Well... I could say that the gold standard is to be free of the need to hit my asthma inhaler every so often. But that's never going to happen -- I'm always going to have asthma.

I don't see how it's any different to use nicotine, than it is to use albuterol. And in point of fact, I *am* free of any kind of "clock" now -- I had to smoke every 30-45 minutes, or yes, I felt bad. Now I just vape at will, all the time: no clock.

People might say, well that's different, asthma is an illness, albuterol is the medicine. Guess what, I smoked for 10 yrs before I had asthma, so that "sickness" was well established long before the asthma was.

I really don't see any difference between needing to inhale one or the other.

Andria

 

[navigator2011]

Now I just vape at will, all the time: no clock.

Right. And when I vape all the time, I have no clock, either. The problems arise when I cannot vape for a while, and withdrawal begins. I think this is what motivates the question mentioned by the OP.

One of the many joys of my vaping experience is that I no longer need my Albuterol inhaler. As a smoker, I had become quite accustomed to carrying my inhaler with me everywhere, in addition to my smokes and lighter. I had gotten to the point in my addition that I had to use the Albuterol just so I could comfortably smoke a cigarette. So, I needed the Albuterol because I craved the cigarette. I never craved the Albuterol.

Now I vape and no longer need the Albuterol. But if I don't vape enough, or frequently enough, I do go into nicotine withdrawal. Hence, my mention of the addiction clock, which I think most people understand.

 

[AndriaD]

Right. And when I vape all the time, I have no clock, either. The problems arise when I cannot vape for a while, and withdrawal begins. I think this is what motivates the question mentioned by the OP.

One of the many joys of my vaping experience is that I no longer need my Albuterol inhaler. As a smoker, I had become quite accustomed to carrying my inhaler with me everywhere, in addition to my smokes and lighter. I had gotten to the point in my addition that I had to use the Albuterol just so I could comfortably smoke a cigarette. So, I needed the Albuterol because I craved the cigarette. I never craved the Albuterol.

Now I vape and no longer need the Albuterol. But if I don't vape enough, or frequently enough, I do go into nicotine withdrawal. Hence, my mention of the addiction clock, which I think most people understand.

I need albuterol either way. And now that I vape, I also need Advair, though I didn't, when I smoked. so I really don't see a lot of difference in them. When I wheeze, or can't draw a good breath, I crave albuterol with every fiber of my being, just as I used to crave cigarettes. I don't crave vaping, really; I desire it, sometimes less, sometimes more, but it's never as strong as a craving.

Andria

 

[rgerber]

This Cranky Old Squonker Vapes to replace smoking and is almost in it two years. No plans to change. Started at 24mgs and have now got that down to 24mgs. Hoping to drop it down to 24mgs in a couple more years.

 

[srpurdy]

This Cranky Old Squonker Vapes to replace smoking and is almost in it two years. No plans to change. Started at 24mgs and have now got that down to 24mgs. Hoping to drop it down to 24mgs in a couple more years.

Amazing feat if you can pull it off!

 

[TheMike21]

In my personal experience I didn't want to quit smoking but had to (my wife got very sick and she had to stop smoking and being around smoke). So surprise surprise the patch didn't work for me because... I didn't want to quit. I started vaping and I do see it as a healthier way to get my nicotine fix (which I didn't want to get rid of). Some do the switch, some go down to 0 nic and stay there, some quit all together, that's part of the beauty of vaping I guess, there is something for everyone.

 

[navigator2011]

... that's part of the beauty of vaping I guess, there is something for everyone.

That's the part that is new with vaping, and the greater public doesn't get, just yet. And all the media attacks aren't helping the greater public to understand that we now have options, including continuing to use nicotine without all the bad bits.

 

[Steamix]

That's the part that is new with vaping, and the greater public doesn't get, just yet. And all the media attacks aren't helping the greater public to understand that we now have options, including continuing to use nicotine without all the bad bits.

A matter of perception and marketing, or propaganda.

Drinking coffee is culture - though it's an alkaloid just like nic AFAIK. Not as potent and certainly not as toxic, but psychoactive nevertheless.

Drink wine from a tetra-pack while sitting on a park bench - you're considered a useless bum.

Drink the very same wine in a fancy restaurant with a sommelier fuzzing around you ( which entails a 2000% markup on that tetra-pack swill ), you're viewed as a gourmet...

Ideally, vaping should become as widely accepted as drinking coffee, and eventually, it will.
But it'll be a long road, for the special interest groups are trying to push us into the bum corner...

 

[Bunnykiller]

Vaping works... thats all there is to it..
there are people who have quit the same day they started vaping and there are people who needed to taper of of ciggies over several months to eventually get away from ciggies, and then there are the others who are dual users who have reduced their ciggie dependancy to a fraction of what they needed....
not everyone is capable of going from 100 to 0 in 24 hours
true, there are people who are determend to quit instantly and the others who wish to just cut back but not quit totally. I wonder why everyone thinks it is so important to follow a specific set of rules on vaping/quitting smoking has to be a standard? Do what feels right for you and dont expect everyone else to abide by what you did to be the standard.....
rules dont apply to everyone... and you know that... thats why you are different and you feel that what everyone else sez is contrary to what you have experienced....

dont be pressured by the "peers" .........

 

[Bunnykiller]

A matter of perception and marketing, or propaganda.

Drinking coffee is culture - though it's an alkaloid just like nic AFAIK. Not as potent and certainly not as toxic, but psychoactive nevertheless.

Drink wine from a tetra-pack while sitting on a park bench - you're considered a useless bum.

Drink the very same wine in a fancy restaurant with a sommelier fuzzing around you ( which entails a 2000% markup on that tetra-pack swill ), you're viewed as a gourmet...

Ideally, vaping should become as widely accepted as drinking coffee, and eventually, it will.
But it'll be a long road, for the special interest groups are trying to push us into the bum corner...

caffine can be just as toxic as nicotine in the right concentration.... people have keeled over from caffine OD
and the expensive wine analogy... ethanol % is pretty much the same in a 9$ a bottle as a 2000$ bottle
its all a matter of perception as to what one does.... and how one precieves the presentation of the product...
a ford Escort will do the same job as a Bentley... it gets you from point A to point B but its the price that makes one feel that they did it in a more prestigious manner

 

[edyle]

I was talking to a co worker of mine and she was talking about how she was using the patch to try to quit but it wasn't working. I suggested vaping and she said that it was crazy because people are just getting addicted to that instead of cigarettes and she wanted to quit completly.

I told her that it was true that some people do seem to depend on it just as much but it did make you feel better. I also told her that I had been vaping for over 3 years and did it because I LIKED it...not because I had to . I enjoyed smoking when I did it but didn't enjoy the coughing and the smell that came with it.

I told her if she did decide that the patch wasn't going to work that she was welcome to ask me any questions but she just rolled her eyes and walked off....oh well....

Tell her it's easier to quit with vape;

for example, a lot of people (I been there) get to the point where you light a cig, take maybe 2 loooooooooooog puffs, then actually put it out and save have a cig for later.
I am sure a lot of people know that experience.

With vape gear, when you need a cig, you can take a cigalike out your pocket, take a puff, and put your cigalike right back in your pocket!

 

[daviedog]

Yer friend can't blow a cloud with a patch..

 

[Bunnykiller]

Yer friend can't blow a cloud with a patch..

but he can get really sick from licking it.... go ahead ask me how I know

 

[Bunnykiller]

Tell her it's easier to quit with vape;

for example, a lot of people (I been there) get to the point where you light a cig, take maybe 2 loooooooooooog puffs, then actually put it out and save have a cig for later.
I am sure a lot of people know that experience.

With vape gear, when you need a cig, you can take a cigalike out your pocket, take a puff, and put your cigalike right back in your pocket!

my point exactly... 2-3 hits on a mod and your done.... that that with a ciggie

 

[lc12]

To return to the OP's initial question... when people ask me when I'm going to "quit DOING THAT", I just shrug, and say, "Probably never; why should I?" They have never yet given me any good reason why. About the best they can come up with is "Because..." and a really puzzled look. The really clueless (like my mother!) say things about nicotine causing cancer -- which I firmly rebutted: TAR causes cancer; nicotine is quite similar chemically to caffeine, and no one has ever found a cancer risk for either.

Andria

I get asked that a lot and I just tell them "This is not a replacement like a patch, gum etc - It's a 'CHOICE' and I love it & never plan on giving it up". Anyway, nicotine is not a carcinogen and known in some studies to help w/alzheimers. We mature folks, down here, in FL wonder if they keep messing w/our vaping if we will literally lose our minds (?). I bet in the next decade, 'The behind the scenes FDA/pharmaceuticals' will be making us pay to see more docs & selling prescription nicotine pills for older patients.

 

[Lessifer]

A lot of people are simply ignorant of the facts about vaping. As has been said, there is no real reason(other than personal) for someone to quit vaping. You may or may not be continuing your nicotine addiction, but you're doing it in a much safer way, that works for many/most people.

For someone who is smoking and saying they don't want to vape because it's trading one addiction for another, IMO, they're just making excuses. Why would I want to trade an addiction that I know is harming me for one that, by most accounts, would save my life? Why wouldn't I?

 

[rico942]

Started at 24mgs and have now got that down to 24mgs. Hoping to drop it down to 24mgs in a couple more years.

That is my nicotine reduction plan as well ...

 

[Rizzyking]

There is a lot of ignorance about vaping and that's perfectly understandable people have work, bills and family that takes up their time and most of their finance they don't vape and therefore have neither the time or interest in becoming familiar with it. I'd bet every ECF member is ignorant on some subject as it doesn't interest us or is something that is of no practical part of our life but ignorance of something should never be a weapon used against people. Every smoker I know has seen my vaping gear and has asked questions most have tried vaping some have stuck with it others are back on tobacco and happy and that's the thing that's most important personal happiness as we all know life is more often crappy then ideal. But the biggest reason many vapers get annoyed with smoker's is because often it's like looking in a mirror because over the years we smoked we reacted to something to do with giving up that people now react to with vaping. Just because we found vaping and made it work for us doesn't make us better or superior to smokers we're not as far removed as some would like to pretend.

 

[Douggro]

But the biggest reason many vapers get annoyed with smoker's is because often it's like looking in a mirror because over the years we smoked we reacted to something to do with giving up that people now react to with vaping. Just because we found vaping and made it work for us doesn't make us better or superior to smokers we're not as far removed as some would like to pretend.

There's a nugget of truth in there. As a vaper, I have to avoid looking at smokers with disdain or a holier-than-thou attitude because it wasn't too long ago that I was one of THEM. And it's that same approach I have to use if a smoker starts ragging on vaping - vaping is not better nor worse, it's just different from what they're doing. Yes, I enjoy it as much or more than smoking, and yes it help me quit the cigarettes when I honestly wasn't sure that anything would let me get to that point. Apply the Golden Rule.

 

[KayP]

I'm sorry, but I don't have time for judgmental closed minded people.