Why does the Provari hit differently than the eVic?

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to each its own. I haven't found a better quality VV device which is why I called it that.

I meant because it'll get you through quite a bit of abuse without breaking down. Hell you can even get it wet, take out the battery and flush it with 90% isopropyl alcohol and let it dry and it's fine.
 

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I recently acquired the Lavafire Mech mod ... a real cheap $28 piece of junk, but it hits so hard both the eVic and Provari have been collecting more and more dust since. Poldiac next, soon leaving electronic mods behind for good.

I just left the VV devices about a couple weeks ago and man!... Mechanicals are the way to go! The huge amount of vapor it produces and it making me lower my nic strength is a plus!. I was vaping at 12mg nic and after building that great coil, it became too strong and now I'm vaping 6mg.

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Mechs are great if you like to run the same ohm coils all the time,myself i like to use different juices at different ohms and volts to get the best flavor from them.

I'm in the same boat. If I vaped only one flavor, then a mech mod with an RBA would work fine for me. But I use 3-4 flavors a day, up to a dozen different flavors in a week's time. Each flavor tastes best at a different voltage, so although my original plan was to use my AGA's on my mechanical Silver Bullet, I've found that the variable voltage of the Provari works best for my applications and vaping style.

The popular notion that a RBA works best on a mechanical mod with a sub-1 ohm coil is a fallacy and nothing but a popular trend that does not apply to all vapors.


Yes, I said that. Let the flaming begin. :evil::laugh:
 

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The popular notion that a RBA works best on a mechanical mod with a sub-1 ohm coil is a fallacy and nothing but a popular trend that does not apply to all vapors.


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I've been mulling over whether to purchase a second Provari as a backup, or one of the mechanical mods as I have been considering exploring the area of genesis style atomizers and currently the only mechanical mod I own is a Reo (love it both in functionality and it's ingenious simplicity - it's never failed me!). Could you elaborate a bit on this point?

Thanks!
 

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Learning all kinds of things in this thread. ECF is really great for vaping knowledge lol. I love my mech mods but there was a question somewhere in this forum that asked if you had to choose ONE mod and only one for the rest of your life, what would it be? I didn't even have to think about it, Provari all the way because of the versatility and how solid of a build it is for an electronic device :vapor:
 

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I've been mulling over whether to purchase a second Provari as a backup, or one of the mechanical mods as I have been considering exploring the area of genesis style atomizers and currently the only mechanical mod I own is a Reo (love it both in functionality and it's ingenious simplicity - it's never failed me!). Could you elaborate a bit on this point?

Thanks!
I've pretty much explained my preference for a variable voltage mod over a fixed voltage one, for my vaping preferences. The beauty of variable voltage is the ability to adjust the voltage of any juice delivery device to each flavor you use. Some taste best at a lower voltage, some with more voltage. None will taste best at a set fixed voltage.

I've found the Provari to be invaluable in setting up my coils for my RBA's. With a Provari you will not need a separate multimeter. Not only does it help you make the coil the resistance or ohm rating you desire, it also helps you find a short that you may not be able to visually see; it will give you an error code that tells you it's not happy with the physical integrity of the coil that you have just wrapped. It also is extremely useful for the incremental pulse firing of the coil to do the final oxidation of the coil...both things that a mechanical mod can not do.

Watch the You Tube video that Zen did for the ZAP for Provape to see this in action. It applies to all Genesis RBA's.



A mechanical mod will also be limited in safety features offered. A variable voltage mod's microprocessor has built-in safety features that will shut it down before a short can cause a coil to blow or cause a battery to go into thermal runaway.
 
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Learning all kinds of things in this thread. ECF is really great for vaping knowledge lol. I love my mech mods but there was a question somewhere in this forum that asked if you had to choose ONE mod and only one for the rest of your life, what would it be? I didn't even have to think about it, Provari all the way because of the versatility and how solid of a build it is for an electronic device :vapor:
Well, If I had to choose one...it'd have to be a mech, for there isn't chips to break. And wires as well. And if you are not a complete bonehead, you can avoid all that nasty stuff a lesser informed person would run into.
 
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The popular notion that a RBA works best on a mechanical mod with a sub-1 ohm coil is a fallacy and nothing but a popular trend that does not apply to all vapors.
I run my mechanical at 1.7 ohms ... my sweet spot ... and even here it hits harder with 26/28ga Kanthal.

I've found the Provari to be invaluable in setting up my coils for my RBA's. With a Provari you will not need a separate multimeter. Not only does it help you make the coil the resistance or ohm rating you desire, it also helps you find a short that you may not be able to visually see; it will give you an error code that tells you it's not happy with the physical integrity of the coil that you have just wrapped. It also is extremely useful for the incremental pulse firing of the coil to do the final oxidation of the coil...both things that a mechanical mod can not do.
The error messages from the Provari, eVic and other electronic mods more often than not prevent me from oxidizing the coils/mesh. So I oxidize them on the mechanical and then ... voila ... no more Provari/eVic error messages. Pure magic. Thanks, a multi-meter will do. The mech will oxidize at .7 ohms, even under partial shorts, so the electronic mods won't be doing me any favors except serve me crap on their screens.
 
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The error messages from the Provari, eVic and other electronic mods more often than not prevent me from oxidizing the coils/mesh. So I oxidize them on the mechanical and then ... voila ... no more Provari/eVic error messages. Pure magic. Thanks, a multi-meter will do. The mech will oxidize at .7 ohms, even under partial shorts, so the electronic mods won't be doing me any favors except serve me crap on their screens.
Ummm. The error messages are there for a reason. There's a short in the coil. You may not be able to see it with your naked eye, but it's there all the same. The Provari IS able to "see" it. A few gentle proddings of the coil (as shown in the above video), and the short disappears. Go ahead and continue to turn a blind eye to those shorts. It's your face, not mine. :D
 

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Ummm. The error messages are there for a reason. There's a short in the coil. You may not be able to see it with your naked eye, but it's there all the same. The Provari IS able to "see" it. A few gentle proddings of the coil (as shown in the above video), and the short disappears. Go ahead and continue to turn a blind eye to those shorts. It's your face, not mine. :D
The error messages are limited to the limitations of the Provari and other electronic mods. Obviously if your multi-meter reads less than 5 ohms, which the Provari and other electronic mods are oblivious to, you don't fire it.

Shorts are completely eliminated by insulating the mesh from contacting any metal as well as oxidizing the mesh and coil on first use. It's this final, and often partial short that pulse-firing eliminates which are impeded by the limitations of the Provari and other electronic mods by their error messages and failures to function.

Secondly protected batteries are used, so not sure where this "It's your face ..." deal comes in.
 
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Yeah, I've seen how much protection "protected" batteries get you, first hand experience.

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Not clear by your statements here: "The error messages are limited to the limitations of the Provari and other electronic mods. Obviously if your multi-meter reads less than 5 ohms, which the Provari and other electronic mods are oblivious to, you don't fire it." Care to educate me?

I think you are taking a lot of things for granted in your methodologies, but you seem to believe you know what you are doing. Just my opinion.
 
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