Why does Wizard Labs even bother?

[moze229]

I was lucky enough to catch some nicotine bases available at Wizard Labs last summer, so I bought some. My experience there was great, even though it still took them nearly three weeks to get it to me, despite saying it was "in stock" online. I've been checking periodically for months to find it in stock again. Here it is 8 months later and they STILL never have it in stock. We've lived through the "we're moving and getting re-situated" for months and now they still don't have anything.

Does anyone know what's going on with these guys? I mean, they sell flavors and non-nic bases, but being a vape supply place, nic base seems to be a pretty staple thing to have in stock. Why bother being a vendor? Lol

 

[retired1]

You have to catch them when they have stock. It usually flies out their door within hours. Especially with everyone being jittery over the upcoming FDA deeming regulations.

 

[Bryan lord]

It's not easy being a vendor these days. Especially when you have great products at great prices. Shop somewhere else if you don't like playing the game. Hard to justify expanding when the axe can fall any day.


-Lord

 

[mxrdrver]

Some people get cranky when they can't get their nic fix

 

[ncpatches]

Speaking with them Monday, I was told they WILL have it in stock after Thanksgiving and to put in my email addie so I will be contacted when it's available. I guess they take care of those customers who have done so, first. I bought a small bottle from another vendor, just to get started, but I'm in for the big one as soon as it's available.

With their prices, I'd bet they will be out of stock again once they take care of everyone waiting.

 

[MarkyD]

This sure seems to come up a lot, but I cant see getting too worked up over it. I can only reiterate that WL supplies to more than just individual diy'ers, including resellers and major e-liquid vendors. As to periodically checking and never finding it, you must've not been checking often enough, I got 500ml from them about a month ago. There are certainly enough resellers that you can find what you need somewhere.

 

[billo]

Don't know why you have to wait for Wizard labs. My Freedom Smokes has prices almost as low, PLUS you can get e.g. 75% PG/ 25% VG. Plus the juice comes in a glass, not plastic, bottle so no chance of plastic leaching into the juice over a long storage time. (Not sure if Wizard uses glass.)

Wizard labs only offers 100% PG or VG anymore.

Our Unflavored Smoke Juice (Nic. Juice, Nicotine Juice) - My Freedom Smokes

Plus, if you want the cheapest juice, this company offers 1000 ml of 100 mg juice for about $100 !
http://wholesale.heartlandvapes.com/nicotine-solution/100mg/nicotine-100mg-liter.html

After mixing it down to a weaker solution, this would last me about 3 years !
Talk about saving money by vaping !

 

[Bryan lord]

Nude nicotine is having a sale for lower strength 6-36mg Black Friday.


-Lord

 

[MarkyD]

Also with any nic supplier, it helps to be willing to fall-back on strength. Obviously 100mg/ml nic is the most economical and sells out first, but theres nothing wrong with 50 or 36, and youre likely to find that if a supplier is out of the high-strength, its likely that some lower strengths are still available. This has worked well for me many times.

 

[emus]

MFS unflavored nic pg held up perfect (as far as I can tell) after 4 years of freezer storage. I love the glass bottles also.

 

[Bryan lord]

MFS unflavored nic pg held up perfect (as far as I can tell) after 4 years of freezer storage. I love the glass bottles also.

Might be wrong but i think they get theirs from WL.


-Lord

 

[emus]

Might be wrong but i think they get theirs from WL.


-Lord

No idea their source. I bought MFS batches in 2009 and another batch in 2012; all MFS batches were good. I still have 30ml from 2009 that I'm keeping for future test.

 

[Thunderball]

Wizard is 10.00 cheaper than MFS for a 500 Ml bottle of 60MG. With that being said, MFS has the glass bottles which are nice and also gives you the PG/VG mix you might want. Wizard sells in plastic bottles........ but, the MFS bottles haver a very narrow top/cap/hole... I do like the larger Cap/hole better with the Wizard bottles for getting your syringe down in there when it gets low....

You just have to go on Wizards sight, pick what yoiu want and there is an out of stock button that will let you give them your email.....then when they notify you, you better hurry and order.

We just cant all get what we want///LOL

 

[moze229]

Thanks for the input, all. I'm well aware that I don't NEED to get things from WL. In fact, I don't really NEED any supplies at all right now. Just thought I would go out and have a look at what was out there and available. I stumbled upon WL and saw that they were STILL out of stock on everything. I was just interested to hear what everyone else has been experiencing.

I'll just plan on other vendors from this point out. I guess I'm just a little confused about all the great reviews and everyone talking about how great WL is when they have stock maybe 5% of the time. I've only placed one order from them, and it was because of these reviews. Since it appears and I've heard that they supply other vendors, I'd likely be getting their repackaged product anyway. Lol

 

[dannyv45]

Patience is a virtue. If you plan correctly and don't wait until your almost out it shouldn't be a problem. I've been ordering from them for the last 6 months and never got stuck or had to order elsewhere because I was low on stock. If you don't have the patience or ability to plan ahead then it's best you order elsewhere and spend more.

The supermarket I buy my groceries at has long lines and is sometimes unbearable. I could go somewhere else where the lines are shorter but I don't because the prices are so good.

 

[Caridwen]

I can never get a complete order from WL. They're always out of something I want either nic in the strength I want, a flavoring, bottles, etc.

 

[dannyv45]

Perfectly understandable. And your comment is very valid. This is why I only depend on WL for my base liquid needs. For my flavors I shop some where else where the prices are comparable and always in stock. When it comes to vaping needs one stop shopping can sometimes be difficult. But as some have said, "I'm not going to use a vender any more because there always out of stock", is kinda like cutting your nose off to spite your face

 

[r77r7r]

Since their 2nd expansion this year, I think they restock nic base every 4-6wks.

After using diff nic from several other suppliers, I'd pay more and wait longer, it's that good.

 

[Chef Geoff]

The main thing that bugs me about WL is they claim that the processing/shipping delay is due to the fact that nic is mixed to order. If that were the case, they could never be out of any given strength unless they were out of nicotine entirely. Also, I have to pay FL sales tax when I order from them.

 

[Thomasis]

Another thing to consider is the constantly growing customer base. Just compare the growth of this forum over the last year and figure how many new customers they have from just this site. Everybody wants their nic as fresh as can be but I think the biggest problem is demand. They simply can't produce quick enough to keep up. I think WL has decided to keep quality tops while sacrificing the "one billion served mentality". It's frustrating though, I'll give you that. By the way, I'm a RTS vapes customer but I do know that WL nic is a quality product.