Why full size when the mini can potentially be both?

[MyKuLoO]

Why do people choose full size ProVari's over the mini when the mini can be extended when necessary? Maybe I'm just the type of person that wants to keep their options open but it seems that the mini is more portable and when I want more battery life I can just use the extension. Why lock yourself into the larger mod?

 

[hausmouse]

Because the battery life of the mini is not ideal for me. I'd never use it in that size so I see no need to pay the same price for less. I'd have to buy more (extension tubes) and I like the one piece look or the one piece plus 18650 cap instead of extension tube

 

[corruption42]

The extension on the mini is only capable of handling a 18490/18500 battery, whereas the full with the extension can take a 18650. You can get a non-factory extension (known as the 'Twins') to use a 18650 with the mini, however, Provari doesn't sell one to use the 18650 with it by default. The capacity difference from a 18650 to a 18490/18500 is about 50% higher (12-1400mAh for 18500's, 2400-3000mAh for 18650's)

 

[hausmouse]

Oh and to go along with the ill never use it as a mini, my hand isn't sized properly to use it in "mini mode" oh and I don't like how the twins piece looks

 

[serenity21899]

Best battery life comes from the 18650 with the extension cap. The mini is actually not that much smaller than the regular, so I just do not see the point.

 

[MyKuLoO]

Thanks to everybody for the informative answers. I was really glad that you guys posted about battery sizes, mAh, and the twins extension because those were all follow up questions I had. I think I will have to hold the mini and full in my hands before making the final decision but this has been very informative.

 

[hausmouse]

Yeah it's all personal preference really. Basically look of the twins if you want to use the 18650, extra cost of twins and which one feels better in your hands

 

[MyKuLoO]

Yeah it's all personal preference really. Basically look of the twins if you want to use the 18650, extra cost of twins and which one feels better in your hands

Is there a US based vendor to get the TWINS or a version of it? Or is it only available from that one greek site?

 

[Chowderhead1972]

Is there a US based vendor to get the TWINS or a version of it? Or is it only available from that one greek site?

405vaperz has or will have the twins.

 

[LV SuzyQ]

My hands are tiny and the mini fits me perfectly and the battery life has not been an issue for me at all ( if I'm going to be out a really long time I just bring an extra battery.. But haven't needed it yet ) plus I like the teardrop design on the mini

 

[Fury83]

I wanted a Black one and I don't like the look of twins on one.

So I ended up trading something else ( a cobra) for a mini later. Now I have both.

If I had to do it again, I would still get the full size.

but as they say..YMMV

 

[Thompson]

If you're referring to the standard extension cap, because 18650 are bad ....

If you're referring to the Twins, well I may have gone that route if it were in stock commonly or I had even heard of it. But I don't really like the looks of it that much. I'm stoked on my 18490/18650 'vari.

 

[EvilOne]

I got the full size. Having held both the mini was not really that much smaller in my opinion to warrant the price. Plus battery life was more important to me than how compact it is. And being able to upgrade to the 18650 down the line with an extension cap from Provari versus a 3rd party manufacturer was the final push to get the full size.

 

[Baditude]

These photos might help with hands included in the pics for size comparison. The first pic is of a Mini, the second a full sized Provari with a rare chrome extension cap.



Provari with ext. cap; Provari with normal cap; Mini Provari.



A Mini with ext. cap will be the same length as a standard Provari.

 

[Plumes.91]

my hands are like 5-6 inches from palm to middle finger tip. Large PVs are ridiculous in my hands.
so I'll probably never have a standard provari. If I bought another one tomorrow I'd get another mini.
I have a ton of 18650 mods and the size isn't worth the length.

With PVs, even a quarter inch is a lot. Every bit makes it longer than i can handle.

 

[PLANofMAN]

I bought the Twins to use on my current V1 ProVari. I know, "why?" when the extension cap works fine. Well, I had already decided that at some point I was going to buy a mini, mostly because the teardrop pattern appeals to me. The new 2.5 "Ribbed for your pleasure" doesn't really strike my fancy, though I may get one at some point.

The extension cap for the ProVari has a rounded bottom and I tend to knock stuff over often. With the extension tube and regular battery cap, the ProVari is much more stable. I'd estimate that when I get it, the Mini will stay in 18350 mode 90% of the time. But when I'm camping, I'm going to want and need that 18650 option.

Batteries : AW Protected 18650 3400 mAh
anyone know how long a 3,400 mAh battery would last? I already get over a day with my 2,500 mAh batteries.

 

[Fury83]

I bought the Twins to use on my current V1 ProVari. I know, "why?" when the extension cap works fine. Well, I had already decided that at some point I was going to buy a mini, mostly because the teardrop pattern appeals to me. The new 2.5 "Ribbed for your pleasure" doesn't really strike my fancy, though I may get one at some point.

The extension cap for the ProVari has a rounded bottom and I tend to knock stuff over often. With the extension tube and regular battery cap, the ProVari is much more stable. I'd estimate that when I get it, the Mini will stay in 18350 mode 90% of the time. But when I'm camping, I'm going to want and need that 18650 option.

Batteries : AW Protected 18650 3400 mAh
anyone know how long a 3,400 mAh battery would last? I already get over a day with my 2,500 mAh batteries.

A long time but I wonder what the amp limit on the protection is and also, a 3400 mah protected battery is going to be long.

 

[Baditude]

Batteries : AW Protected 18650 3400 mAh
anyone know how long a 3,400 mAh battery would last? I already get over a day with my 2,500 mAh batteries.

That's a protected battery. Provape recommends using only IMR batteries, which you probably are aware of.

Have you been using protected batteries in your Provari? I had read that the Provari doesn't like the protection circuits in those batteries and throws out an error code or refuses to fire with them. Maybe the 1.0 version isn't so picky?

 

[Fury83]

Looks like it is 69mm and an AW Sticker on the black protected Panny NCR's

3400mAh Protected Panasonic 18650 battery cell by Orbtronic

A regular hybrid CGR 2250 mah button top is about 67mm.

I'd probably buy these instead

NCR18650PD High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery from USA

Not protected but I know they will fit and not withstanding what I have seen posted, NCR's are supposed to be pretty safe.

 

[Fury83]

Here's the info on NCR cells

http://industrial.panasonic.com/www-data/pdf2/ACI4000/ACI4000CE17.pdf