Why I will never buy another eGo Twist~

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I found a great hands free tabletop magnifying glass sort of thing at hobby lobby in the sewing dept, even has a light. Now I'm ready to start rebuilding heads, just got to figure out how.

I'd be happy to help you with that klynn. I can still manage to do that. What kind of clearo head do you use? I have to hit the sack but we can pick it up tomorrow.
 

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I have the vivi nova. My provari should be here hopefully by sat. Guess I don't need a meter since I have that coming. Still have to get wick and wire, so will be a while. Thanks I will def need help.

Vivi's for me too. Here's a vid by Busardo to get you started. He rebuilds it somewhere around the 20 minute mark (+ or -) if you want to skip ahead. Take a look and I'll get back up with you tomorrow. There are a few other tips and tricks plus safety precautions and I can help you find the wick and wire. It's not hard at all. Good night klynn.


A PBusardo Tutorial - Vivi Nova Cleaning & Rebuilding - YouTube
 

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Here is a little tidbit that probably no one will care about, but it's a great example of how one hobby (or job) informs another ... the reason you can see the numbers more clearly under a bright light is because your pupils close down, which increases the eyes' depth of field perception and sharpens focus. It's the same reason why, in macro photography, you want the largest possible F-stop (smallest opening) in the iris of the lens, but to compensate for that you have to pump more light on the subject. That's why igetcha69 and PBusardo have such sharp close-ups in their reviews ... Lots of light!
 

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Here is a little tidbit that probably no one will care about, but it's a great example of how one hobby (or job) informs another ... the reason you can see the numbers more clearly under a bright light is because your pupils close down, which increases the eyes' depth of field perception and sharpens focus. It's the same reason why, in macro photography, you want the largest possible F-stop (smallest opening) in the iris of the lens, but to compensate for that you have to pump more light on the subject. That's why igetcha69 and PBusardo have such sharp close-ups in their reviews ... Lots of light!

Thanks for that info. I like Busardo's reviews for his sharp camera work as much as any other factor. I try to take closeup pictures with my Canon Poweshot A630 and they don't always turn out very clear. Yes, I bring up that closeup feature that looks like a flower logo but that isn't always the answer. Any suggestions there Scott on how I can increase that F-stop?
 

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Here is a little tidbit that probably no one will care about, but it's a great example of how one hobby (or job) informs another ... the reason you can see the numbers more clearly under a bright light is because your pupils close down, which increases the eyes' depth of field perception and sharpens focus. It's the same reason why, in macro photography, you want the largest possible F-stop (smallest opening) in the iris of the lens, but to compensate for that you have to pump more light on the subject. That's why igetcha69 and PBusardo have such sharp close-ups in their reviews ... Lots of light!


yeah, cuz I'm getting OLD.
 

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Thanks for that info. I like Busardo's reviews for his sharp camera work as much as any other factor. I try to take closeup pictures with my Canon Poweshot A630 and they don't always turn out very clear. Yes, I bring up that closeup feature that looks like a flower logo but that isn't always the answer. Any suggestions there Scott on how I can increase that F-stop?

Not familiar with the Canon Powershot (I use a Canon EOS-30D) ... does it have either a manual mode or an aperture priority mode? You have to be able to manually adjust the f-stop. Most lenses max out their resolving power at about F-22, and that's what I normally use. Then I pour enough light on the subject to get an acceptably fast shutter speed (e.g., 1/125 or faster for handheld shots), or use a tripod. You still want enough light on the subject to get a fast shutter speed to eliminate/reduce blurriness from camera shake ... if you're using an SLR, even the slap of the mirror is enough to shake a shot!

I've been a pro photographer for 50 years, and macro photography has always been one of my passions. There are lots of elements to that particular branch of photography, but the basic ones are light, light and more light!
 

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I'm looking forward to buying a twist. But before I do I ask questions. Mainly ask where people buy them from. This is kinda like the post I read about someone buying a popular e-juice and then saying it sucked and complained. Come to find out it was a knock-off from some unknown vendor.

CayCay, I bought my Twists from Carolina Vapes and they were just fine. Genuine Joyetech products. You can also get Twists from HHV if you're ordering juice too if you want to cover shipping costs. In fact, HHV has some of the best pricing for Twists I have seen. I can't verify the manufacturer though so you might want to check with Adam first if it concerns you. Adam doesn't usually sell junk.
 

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Not familiar with the Canon Powershot (I use a Canon EOS-30D) ... does it have either a manual mode or an aperture priority mode? You have to be able to manually adjust the f-stop. Most lenses max out their resolving power at about F-22, and that's what I normally use. Then I pour enough light on the subject to get an acceptably fast shutter speed (e.g., 1/125 or faster for handheld shots), or use a tripod. You still want enough light on the subject to get a fast shutter speed to eliminate/reduce blurriness from camera shake ... if you're using an SLR, even the slap of the mirror is enough to shake a shot!

I've been a pro photographer for 50 years, and macro photography has always been one of my passions. There are lots of elements to that particular branch of photography, but the basic ones are light, light and more light!

You're a camera pro. I'm a camera idiot (despite my nephew being a professional photographer). I know very little about cameras. I can tinker and fix with a lot of gadgets and cars and the like, but cameras are not one of them. Let me read up a little on my model and I'll harrass you again about it. But the light thing helps. Thanks.
 

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You're a camera pro. I'm a camera idiot (despite my nephew being a professional photographer). I know very little about cameras. I can tinker and fix with a lot of gadgets and cars and the like, but cameras are not one of them. Let me read up a little on my model and I'll harrass you again about it. But the light thing helps. Thanks.

LOL ... if you think we vapers get all wound up about volts, amps, ohms, and watts, get a bunch of photographers yakking about depth-of-field formulas, circles of confusion, and resolving power! It's all jargon, though ... the concepts are really simple. Once you understand the inverse relationship between f-stop and shutter speed, everything else just kinda falls into place ... :laugh:
 
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Well, I might as well add that my two ego twists(real ones lol) have been perfect for the 4 or 5 months that I've had them. The only complaint seems to be that its hard to read the numbers on the dial- I agree, but if you get it at the right angle, you can make it out lol.

I have to take off my glasses and hold it up to the light before I can read those damm numbers. I finally dabbed a spot of nail polish on my favorite vaping positions for either SR of LR. Worked pretty well.
 

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This problem happened to me too........100% my fault though. I keep sitting my twist in my lap and then stand up, forgetting it was there. One too many thumps on the ground and I had the same issue........I wonder how much abuse was involved that the OP is not telling us about. My twist was a GREAT product until I dropped it too many times.
 

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There is a fundamental problem with integrated ego style batteries: they all use the same style LiIon, LiPO, etc. battery inside that almost every other PV on the planet does. LiIon's have many advantages in a PV, but they cannot be recharged an infinite number of times. There is a limit which starts at around 300 charge cycles with a very large margin on either side. Regardless of the source, this margin can be very unpredictable. We used to use tons of industrial LiIon batteries, and the statistical variation in recharge cycles would drive our QC people crazy. Cell phones and PC's use the same technology in their batteries; just ask any tech in those fields to show you the mountain of failed batteries waiting to be disposed of. Some last a few years others last a few months.Very few manufactures of these products will give you any more than 30 day guarantee on a battery.

I don't use ego style batteries any longer, having gone over to VV PV's and Reo's. But even with these devices, I end up tossing about a battery a month and I do not buy garbage batteries.

So you make your choice: the slick, slim style and convenience of an ego vs. the much larger bulk of another(and more to far more expensive) PV with replaceable batteries. I get my batteries from China from DealExtreme and they end up costing about $2-3, even with shipping.

It is fairly easy to get to the 300 AVERAGE number of recharges and quickly as well. If you are a heavy vaper, you could easily be recharging your battery twice a day. The numbers will catch up to you sooner or later. Bad QC on the device itself will only accelerate the process.Even a bullet proof device like my ProVari went back to the shop 2 times before they got it right. It has been flawless since, and the service was without problems.

No device is perfect, so we vapers will just have to live with the imperfections. Analogs were far simpler: you ran out, you bought some more. On the other hand, do you still want to be smoking?
 

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This probably doesn't help anybody, but I still equate buying PV's to my former smoking days. A 650mah Twist costs about $22. That equates to about 4 days of smoking a PAD. So, I was effectively buying a Twist every 4 days when I was smoking.

Bottom line for me: I ain't worried about it. My Twist works fine. But if it breaks, I'll throw it in the trash and buy another one.
 

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This probably doesn't help anybody, but I still equate buying PV's to my former smoking days. A 650mah Twist costs about $22. That equates to about 4 days of smoking a PAD. So, I was effectively buying a Twist every 4 days when I was smoking.

Bottom line for me: I ain't worried about it. My Twist works fine. But if it breaks, I'll throw it in the trash and buy another one.

Rational thinking is not allowed on this thread. :)
 

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This probably doesn't help anybody, but I still equate buying PV's to my former smoking days. A 650mah Twist costs about $22. That equates to about 4 days of smoking a PAD. So, I was effectively buying a Twist every 4 days when I was smoking.

Bottom line for me: I ain't worried about it. My Twist works fine. But if it breaks, I'll throw it in the trash and buy another one.
Agree 100% I think they are a great deal. The only one that ever gave me any trouble was a knock off. It worked fine for a couple of months and just died. But I do drop them quite a bit so it could have very well been from that. I've broken a few clearos that way too.
 
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