Why I'm going back to smoking cigarettes

[wpsmithjr]

"Again, you have all been very helpful. I was not expecting such a response."

I agree. I figured this was an old post considering the number of replies, but it is not.


Here's my 2 cents...

I'm a newbie. Only been vaping about a month now. I read a LOT of stuff before I bought something, but none of it made much sense because it's all new to me and I didn't have any of the stuff that I could hold in my hand. Cartos, cartomizers, clearomizers, low resistance attys, 280mA batt, mods... it was all greek to me. I still don't know what half those words mean.

But...

I haven't had a cigarette in about 4 weeks.

Why would you want to listen to a newbie? Well, a lot of these people have been doing this a long time. They've spent all kinds of money trying to make what is a new concept with new technology work for them. They've modified stuff, tried all different methods to clean the equipment, etc. Thing is... a lot of them are using the older stuff that they've found works for them. Once they find something they like, they stick with it, as is logical.

But...

The people who make these things are changing them... improving them... all the time. I would try some of the newer products first... instead of the stuff all these more experienced vapers are suggesting.

I bought the new 510-T starter kit and some juice. I've since bought some extra spare parts and more juice. I've spent maybe $200, and I figure I've got enough hardware to last me another 4-6 months, and I've got enough juice to last me about 2 more months. Since I used to spend about about $200 per month on analogs, I'm pretty happy with the savings. vaping should cost me about 1/4 of what I used to spend smoking.

And...

I haven't had any of the issues you're talking about.

I don't have to drip. Never dripped in my life. Never topped off a cart. Don't even know how to do all that. When my 510-T tank is empty, I just pop on another talk. The atomizers do get dirty, and you can clean them... but... even if you bought new atomizers every time one got dirty, you'd still spend a lot less than you do smoking analogs. The tanks work well for me. Only have to refill every few hours or so... or just take a few pre-filled tanks with you when you leave the house in the morning.

I'm telling you... the new tanks systems work well. I'd go with the 510-T or the Ego-T.

 

[wpsmithjr]

And let me just add this...

Sorry, didn't really have anything else to say. Just working on getting my first 15 posts in so I can add a banner to my signature.

 

[wpsmithjr]

I think I'm at post number 7 now.

Or is it 8?

 

[otrem]

wp, i can see ten(10).

 

[Hellen A. Handbasket]

*snipped*
Here's my 2 cents...

I'm a newbie. Only been vaping about a month now. I read a LOT of stuff before I bought something, but none of it made much sense because it's all new to me and I didn't have any of the stuff that I could hold in my hand. Cartos, cartomizers, clearomizers, low resistance attys, 280mA batt, mods... it was all greek to me. I still don't know what half those words mean.

The people who make these things are changing them... improving them... all the time. I would try some of the newer products first... instead of the stuff all these more experienced vapers are suggesting. *snipped*

Yeah, that is sound advice. The people who have been doing this for over a year don't know spit...

Maybe save that kind of attitude for when you have 6 months of this under your belt (and if what you started with is still working for you). Hmmm?

BTW, go get your post count up in a different thread. Spamming for post count adds nothing of value here.

 

[seantex]

The people who stick with basic stuff do it for a reason. "Dont fix it if it isn't broken" The new "advanced" things coming out are complicated and have too many things that can and do go wrong. It is like buying a car when the first model T came out. It would get you around better than a horse when it was working but until the technology really improved and the kinks were worked out it was nearly worthless. The new things will be great one day but for now the basics are still the best for an every day reliable way to get some nicotine in you.

 

[JimmyDeee]

keeps metal threads from oxidizing...rusting

 

[texastumbleweed]

buy a GO GO and it will be the last ecig you will ever need, and you definitely wont miss your cigarettes

 

[Nicko]

The people who stick with basic stuff do it for a reason. "Dont fix it if it isn't broken" The new "advanced" things coming out are complicated and have too many things that can and do go wrong. It is like buying a car when the first model T came out. It would get you around better than a horse when it was working but until the technology really improved and the kinks were worked out it was nearly worthless. The new things will be great one day but for now the basics are still the best for an every day reliable way to get some nicotine in you.

I often find that the basics you are referring to lack enough power to give reliable satisfaction.

 

[herasys]

what brand did you buy bro?

 

[Wildhorse187]

I have contemplated the same. You cannot compare the 2. One became a hobby for you it sounds like (ecigs). The other was not. You tend to spend $$ on your hobbies right? Keep vaping.

 

[Manfred1816]

It is a learning process. I have wasted some money trying out this and that, but sooner or later you will get it figured out. Maybe before you buy something, look on the forum. Advice from helpful members got me into my first mod, and just a few clicks helps me find different juices and suppliers. With the attys, though, try de-wicking them. It is really easy to do with the 306 models. I started doing that--again, as a suggestion from a forum member--, and it solved the nasty burnt taste (just look for videos on YouTube). Hope some of this helps.

 

[yagottawanna]

hello,

I know you are entitled to your opinion, but this is a bit too much.

The OP has posted his predicament, a little background info on his vaping experience and describing his frustrations with the equipment he has.

I fail to see how your comments have anything to do with the OPs question.

What I do see is that if you want to treat new members here with mistrust and paranoia, perhaps it is better you go start your own e-cig board with yourself as the only member so that there will be NO differing opinion, NO need to mistrust, No need to be suspicious since it will be your own perfect world.

By the way, to the OP, I best advice I can give you is vaping isn't for everyone and it might be for you and it might not be for you. Only you can decide that and what direction you wish to take in choosing a PV. You have to decide if you want to use a pv as a means to quit the analogs or to choose to use a pv as an alternate to smoking, or a combination of both.

Once you decide what to do, then you can decide what pv is a good choice for you.

I have the the inferno t and the inferno with the CE2 resevoir cartomizers.

I have also had those same issues and have dealt with them via modding the inferno atomizer tank wick and by modding the cartomizer silicone cap and dry burning the coil and wick get rid of the black crap that makes the carto taste horrid.

As others have mentioned, vaping is a learning experience.

Currently, for both taste and ease of use I am using Bloog Maxxfusion and Volt kr808 D1s as they suit my needs and don't burn easy or need modding to suit my tastes.

His just asking for advise dude, even if his genuine or not, anyone can ask for advise. I hardly post here and troll all the same, only reason why I'm posting now is due to the fact that I'm bored at work.

hello,

What part of his post is about negotiation?

He asked for help and is awaiting replies from other people who are WILLING to give him some CONSTRUCTIVE advice.

No,

You just insinuated and accused the op of being some secret agent for big tobacco and then when nobody responded to your post, you got mad and made your own soapbox topic.

Sad and disappointing really since your posts are of no help to the OP at all.

Thank you for posting what I - as a "newbie" as of yesterday - might get eaten alive for posting.

I belong to numerous message boards and many I rarely visit anymore. Why? Because people jump to conclusions and make assumptions with zip to base it on. My MO is to give people the benefit of the doubt until such time that I feel comfortable in making a decision in regards to someones integrity or motives - based on far more than one single post.

When uncalled for (and possibly unjustified) remarks are made, a quote I read somewhere always comes to mind: "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should." We're all entitled to think whatever we want, but does that give us the right to engage in cyber bullying? In my world, it doesn't.

I will be receiving my first-time-ever kit tomorrow - and you know what? Somewhere down the road I could be posting the exact same thing. By rolling my own cigs, I have gotten the cost down to less than $2 a pack - and with sales, coupons, bouncing around to different suppliers, I have no doubt that I could get the cost down to $1 a pack. Were it not for my coughing fits and breathing issues, I could continue to smoke for the same amount (or less - in some cases) as those who use e-cigs and are fortunate enough to not have to go through a costly trial and error period - while at the same time wanting to tear their hair out (or worse) because of nicotine cravings.

This poster mentioned a $700 investment and still not achieving success. My entire monthly income is less than $700 a month. So yes - I can see that being quite an issue for some people. There will never come a time when I can take my entire monthly income and fritter it away on "trial and error" - as opposed to spending $1 a pack on cigarettes. But out of concern for my health (as well as my physical comfort) I have chosen to make an investment that I can afford at the moment and pray to God that it works. If it doesn't - and I'm unable to find a solution equal to (or less than) my $1 to $2 a pack of cigarettes, where do you suppose that will leave me?

I'm very disappointed to see some of the comments on this thread. I thought I had finally found a place where people could be helpful - without being rude - "just because they can". There could be 101 reasons why this poster has said what he or she said. Why jump down that persons throat without knowing what those reasons are? Isn't this supposed to be a "helpful" place?

 

[Sellaman]

I will be receiving my first-time-ever kit tomorrow

Good luck with your kit. I haven't been so lucky with mine which I got yesterday.

 

[yagottawanna]

Good luck with your kit. I haven't been so lucky with mine which I got yesterday.

I'm very sorry to hear that. Have you asked for help here to see if maybe you're doing something wrong? If you're anything like me - zero knowledge and can't make heads or tails out of most of the lingo - maybe it's something as simple as "how" you're using it. I watched a couple of videos and it seems you can't just "drag" like you would with a regular cigarette (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) and I'm fully expecting that to be my second problem. (The first will be getting the stuff out of the box and figuring out what it is and what to do with it!)

I certainly hope I have better luck. I'm simply not in a financial position to go through a lot of trial and error.

Keep me posted on how you're doing, okay?

 

[Sellaman]

Keep me posted on how you're doing, okay?

And please keep me posted as to how you are doing too.
I am getting a lot of help from a lot of nice members here on ECF in my thread called Sellaman.

 

[AnthonyB]

I have been lurking on here ever since I discovered electronic cigarettes about a year ago. This is my first post.
This forum is a truly remarkable compilation of user experiences and information on the subject.
It is by far the best on the web, which I why I will contribute my story and seek out advice on my situation.

Lets begin with a brief history. I did countless hours of research on e-cigarettes before I decided to buy my first device. I decided on the Joyetech eGo using CE2 Cartomizers. I found Volcanoecigs.com selling a re-branded version for less than other resellers, so I purchased their Inferno Kit.

Everything was great at first. The vapor production was excellent. The flavor was potent and delicious. I was in heaven. I quit smoking completely within two days because the cigarettes just didn't taste sweet like the Volcano e-Liquid (Blue Water Punch). I was using the CE2 Cartomizers and refilling them with a syringe. It was a bit of a chore but well worth it to me.
Unfortunately, the bliss was short-lived. Soon my cartomizers started getting a burnt taste. I tried desperately to fix the situation by attempting various cleaning methods (boiling them, soaking them in alcohol, etc). Nothing would get rid of the burnt taste. I gave up on the batch and ordered new ones. I figured maybe I had dry burned them and the wicks had been permanently damaged, because they looked black inside even after cleaning. What did I do? I ordered a new pack of CE2 Cartomizers from a different reseller and was back in vapor heaven. This time around, I was very careful not to let the cartomizers tank get empty. I kept them topped off with e-liquid for fear that the burnt taste would return. Sure enough, it did. Even after I was so careful not to let them burn dry.

I gave up on e-cigarettes after that. I figured I wasn't saving any money because the cartomizers were only good for a few refills before they started tasting foul. I figured e-cigarettes were just an online gimmick and not a legitimate alternative to smoking cigarettes. I was mad about all the money I spent on my supplies. I threw everything in the trash.

After several months of smoking a pack a day, I decided to give e-cigarettes another chance. I figured maybe I just needed to try a different device. Volcano has just started selling the eGo-T Tank System and I was very excited. Maybe without he wicks on the atomizer there would be no burnt taste. I ordered a kit an Interno-T kit.

Soon enough, the eGo-T started to taste burnt. I tried the same methods I had used on the Cartomizers in an attempt to clean them. It did not work.

I resorted to dripping with a drip tip, but the atomizers would get a bad taste after a while as well. Then i tried washing them and they wouldn't work after drying.

If I added up all the money I have spent on e-cigarette batteries, atomizers, liquid, chargers, drip tips and supplies, it would probably be about $700. I feel like I have wasted all this money for nothing, only to finally realize the gimmick that these devices are.

So that is why I'm going back to smoking cigarettes. I am curious to know if anybody else has had similar situation to mine. I am also curious to know if there is perhaps a better engineered device for me that someone can suggest.

Thank you for your time. I eagerly await your replies.

I will brief here as it is my bedtime but I think the first impression of e-cigs is crucial in order for someone to get on the road to making the substitute. Getting the right e-cig,atomizer/cartridge and juice combination is very important and a different configuration of these components are going to range from the awful dry burnt taste and feeling of demoralisation and the blissful sensation you get when you 'hit the nail on the head' with your setup.

If I can be briefly there are two things I'd like to suggest. Firstly, you are only supposed to fill cartomizers up once or twice. After that, they under-perform and it's time to start again.

Secondly (and maybe more importantly) if you want to do things the economic way and the most effective way in terms of flavour and smoothness then buy atomizers and cartridges! They are less convenient and require dripping but you get used to that. The flavour is much better and you will only get that burnt chemical taste if you let your cartridge or atomizer run dry. If you get low resistance atomizers, make sure you drip directly onto the atomizer as well as into the cartridge. The right way to fill the cartridge is to let it 'pool' just a little on the top of the filler. Then you know it's filled. Those first 6 or 7 draws will be heavenly. Of course, that is subject to the quality of the juice as well.

No matter how you look at it, smoking will kill you much faster than eloctronic cigarettes and if you get the right set up for electronic cigarettes it's more satisfying than any normal cigarette and you will never go back.

Anthony

Good luck.

 

[markfm]

I only tried ce2 cartos a couple times, for kicks.
I've stayed with boge cartos long term, run about 24 ml of liquid through them, 4 days, before cleaning or tossing. They are simple, work well. On riva/ego I use 2 ohm, while on my variable voltage device I run 3.4 ohms.
At 4 days it comes to $0.4/day, and half that if I pick them up on an eastmall coop.
I leave the rubber mouth tip off, makes it very fast, easy to top off during the day.

 

[Sellaman]

No matter how you look at it, smoking will kill you much faster than eloctronic cigarettes

I'm trying to be polite.... but are you sure about that?

 

[mombo]

Hey Ph.....You know when you first start out with ecigs going to an atomizer and tanks seems to be an awlfully big step. Why don't you start out with a two piece system...a prefilled carto (there are many flavors) that you screw onto a batt. I think V2 and V4L have about the best tasting prefilled carts. Once you get yourself adjusted to flavor and nic strength then you can start cleaning your prefilled carts and refilling them with juice. When you get good at that (it doesn't take long) then move into maybe an I-go or Echo and fill those cartomizers (they have a 2.5 and 3.5 ml respectively) Then move onto maybe a mod..like the Reos. I think finding the exact right set up for you and your pocketbook is the key to vaping. Dead is a long time! Good luck and try to hang in....it does work!