Why is a Provari P3 even a viable choice.
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You can talk about new chips, high wattage, and whatever else excites you, but you'll never discourage a Provari owner from buying another 2.5 or P3. I like how Provape possible is buying Evolv chips. Just another rumor. You can't copy quality, safety, and dependability which Provari offers at a fair price. My face and hands are safe are yours? Provape says it best. If you don't like it by all means don't buy it, but move on. So shue
Hi, op I have to say I completely agree with you on this. I'm currently waiting for my ipv3 150 watt to be shipped. I don't personally care for the provari for the limitations and reasons you listed as well. I must say for each his own though. If someone wants to drop that kind of money on a 20 watt device without caring about the specs of the device than that's fine by me. But what I don't understand is the Provari attitudes, like it's sooo much better than everything else?? I personally wouldn't be happy with a provari because of its limits but we are all different and what ever makes us happy. But people need to really loose the provari attitudes that their device better than every one else's because it's really not.
IMO, it's not about the specs. The specs are enough for the vapers who buy them, and that's that. The Provari is better because it has an unbeatable warranty(up to 2 YEARS), Provape puts safety as priority #1, excellent build quality, and even if there is a problem outside of warranty, you can still get it fixed cheap, as opposed to other PV's that almost universally leave you to just buy a new one.
That having been said, I don't care what other people use or why they use it. These are just my reasons for what I use.
They did. It was called the Darwin. Innovative for its time but didnt do too well. Evolv is a board maker, not a mod maker. They are sticking to what they are good at.
Atttitudes like this almost destroyed the technology industry with incredibly uninspiring products during the 90s, and that attitude is creeping its way into the vaping industry. Its unfortunate. People having this attitude that all there is to a PRODUCT is a spec sheet and numbers.
Its not about numbers, and its not about specs. Its about keeping us off cigarettes first and foremost. No one here can reasonably tell me that burning liquid at 100 watts is necessary to keep them off cigarettes. I'm not saying some of you may enjoy that, thats fine. But this attitude of looking down on devices that don't stick 100 watts of electricity 2 inches away from your face, is what really annoys the crap out of me. Go ahead and put that much electricity inches away from your face so you can blow a marginally thicker cloud. But don't look down on devices and users who don't support that, acting like the industry should indulge in even more spec-whoring.
I think you misread her, Millah. And I've got zero skin in the game, knowing neither of you.
And I don't know what's gotten in to me lately. I used to LOVE it when things starting elevating into fights.
I guess I'm getting old (sigh).
Wow,...just wow! I'm talking about the specifications of the product! That's what the products actual capabilities are...how can that NOT be important? Are you serious?? The "specs" or actual capabilities of a product is one of the MOST important things! ! It's not a attitude it's the reality of what everyone should be looking at before they buy a product.....I'm blown away that someone would say what' a product capibility is not important! ! I would guess most folks do care about what their products can or can't do. Aka= specs
Hmmm, pay so much for so little is it???
1) The Provari is not for an extremist vaper, no.
2) You are paying for a warranty
3) Putting Americans to work <--- Ding Dong this bell ringing is a no brainer if you live here
4) Comparable Devices that either put out the same output or are variable wattage in this Price Range. Svoemesto Semovar (Retail Price $215. Output 3watts to 15watts)
Vapor Shark (DNA20 and DNA30 Chipsets) Current one is about $169 for 30 Watts Power output
Radix V1 DNA30 $199
Hana Modz DNA30 $199
Sensation Mod DNA30 $330
Are We seeing a pattern here? An authentic, regulated mod, with warranty you can slap a good Genesis, Kayfun, Russian, heck even a Nautilus on top of it and get a quality vape without chucking a cloud to do it, nor risk having it blow up in your hand for going to crazy on your sub-ohm build or due to a short. Heck I paid $500 for an Authentic Mech mod, between $200 to $300 for a regulated mod that is quite pretty, functional, and trust me, I am seriously looking at a P3 here in the near future as my next device to buy before even an IPV V3 (uh oh, 150 watts), the only thing that was holding me back from getting a Provari was because they had yet to move into the Variable Wattage Realm. Provapes has been around a while now. Solid product, solid warranty, what is not to like.
You are throwing the same mud ball a lot of people have tossed around, every other device listed in my post, excluding maybe the Semovar, use pulse width modulated voltage output, Provaris, what you set is what it puts out in a flat signal, a company that is about quality instead of quantity pumped out of a Chinese Sweat Shop.
*gets off soap box, Next to take the stand
Provari uses pwm also... Just at a higher frequency. If I remember correctly, the Hana dna30 doesn't use pwm, but a type of dc to dc output that will be just as smooth if not smoother, if you don't wish to vape low wattage on a low ohm coil
Thank you, I think he did misunderstand something because wanting to know what a product can or can't do isnt, um..spec whoring...maybe he had one too many cups of coffee this morning..idk
It's not important if what's already there covers one's needs. For me, if I upgraded from my DNA20 to a DNA30, it would have been of zero value (I vape around 8w). So in that case, the higher capability was a moot point. But if more power DOES have value for you, then it matters.
I see if from your perspective. Do you see it from mine?
Yes, yes I do understand your prospective. That's what is so great about having options. There are many different styles of vaping and I think it's wonderful that they make things where we ALL can be satisfied. We like what we like..there is no right and no wrong here. I personally feel blessed that we all do have so many choices in the vaping community. There is no negative feelings here. We are each individuals and we are all going to like different things.
I am not a Provari fan nor a fan of Apple products as another example but ALOT of people are and that's great. They like what they like, I like what I like and there are products to cater for both sides.
If we all liked and owned the same things, life would be pretty boring!
If we all liked and owned the same things, life would be pretty boring!
As Provape has made it clear many times if you don't like the Provari don't buy it. Putting it down is ridiculous, and to say Provari owners have attitudes is more ridiculous. I nor any Provari owner starts a thread to put down the Provari, we may inject our reasons why it's a great mod to own. I know I don't need to keep spending or throwing away money for mods or clones of mods which have no safe track records. If I were say living on a tight budget I would buy a Provari and be worry free and safe. I have no budget to speak of and I still spend my money wisely on high quality items as for some strange reason they last. I known no one who owns a Provari to have a attitude problem, but as long as these silly threads keep popping up from jealous vapers we will speak up.
I'm not into 20 or more watts and you will never find a post of mine in any of those threads. If jumping on the anti Provari bandwagon excites you go post on the Provape thread as they are many to choose from.
You don't know the specs of the P3 or 2.5? Well do a check as they are not top secret.
Interesting post and thank you
I'm going to switch hats. I don't and never have cared what Mod others use. All that ever matters is that others practice safety and refrain or at least mitigate cig consumption. If your happy then I'm happy. It's your choice and not mine. Period!
Although I've only been vaping about two years, I've noticed a divisive outlook in the vaping culture/community. It keeps getting worse and comes from BOTH sides on a given issue. Both "camps" are guilty with respect to this thread and numerous others on various subjects. I don't like it. I respectfully hope you can see my view of this issue even if you don't agree.
Sometimes it's the choice of words. When you say "...without caring about the specs..." I really think that's not fair. For me, I am ACCUTELY aware of the specs. I also have a VS RDNA (DNA30) and have built numerous coils and various resistances. Sub ohm and up to 2.0. I don't need or use more than 20 watts and that's reality for me. Period.
When the OP says "...useless power output..." that an inflammatory statement and a very very poor choice of words so naturally she/he is going to receive lots of snark etc. Myself included.
Over the last year I have also read some "fan boy" statements from my own Vari brothers and sisters. Lets please try and dial it back a bit. For example: The greatest Mod ever invented. The only Mod you will ever need for the rest of your life!
Please!
Finally, I might own three Varies, a REO Mini, and a VS RDNA but NONE are perfect. ALL have pluses and minuses. Each has some different pluses and minuses which suit ME fine.
EDIT: See how popular I might be? /LOL I just "called out" both sides. /lol
Lets ALL join hands and meet for drinks in Vegas! My treat!
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I think we already agreed everyone is different and we all like different things and that's what makes the world go around .. we all have different opinions. But That's all they are is opinions..no one side is right no one side is wrong it's only opinion. You have yours, I have mine and as adults we agree to disagree. With no harsh feelings involved. There is no one "right" side it's only opinion and we ALL have one and that's ok. If it's not the same as ours, that's ok too, just take it with a grain of salt..no reason to try and argue a point we disagree on. Different opinions are perfectly fine. Again it's only a opinion..
Interesting post and thank you
I'm going to switch hats. I don't and never have cared what Mod others use. All that ever matters is that others practice safety and refrain or at least mitigate cig consumption. If your happy then I'm happy. It's your choice and not mine. Period!
Although I've only been vaping about two years, I've noticed a divisive outlook in the vaping culture/community. It keeps getting worse and comes from BOTH sides on a given issue. Both "camps" are guilty with respect to this thread and numerous others on various subjects. I don't like it. I respectfully hope you can see my view of this issue even if you don't agree.
Sometimes it's the choice of words. When you say "...without caring about the specs..." I really think that's not fair. For me, I am ACCUTELY aware of the specs. I also have a VS RDNA (DNA30) and have built numerous coils and various resistances. Sub ohm and up to 2.0. I don't need or use more than 20 watts and that's reality for me. Period.
When the OP says "...useless power output..." that an inflammatory statement and a very very poor choice of words so naturally she/he is going to receive lots of snark etc. Myself included.
Over the last year I have also read some "fan boy" statements from my own Vari brothers and sisters. Lets please try and dial it back a bit. For example: The greatest Mod ever invented. The only Mod you will ever need for the rest of your life!
Please!
Finally, I might own three Varies, a REO Mini, and a VS RDNA but NONE are perfect. ALL have pluses and minuses. Each has some different pluses and minuses which suit ME fine.
EDIT: See how popular I might be? /LOL I just "called out" both sides. /lol
Lets ALL join hands and meet for drinks in Vegas! My treat!
Marvelous.
And I'm in, just by the way. I LOVE it when someone else is buyin'
I vape at 5 volts....someone looked that up for me once and it translates to around 9 watts. I dont need to vape at 50 watts like a fiend sucking on a theatrical fog machine. In fact I dont care about watts at all. They arent needed with a Provari and volts allow more fine tuning any way.
I'm FAR from a newbie, having owned my own successful vaping business before being shut down by the FDA.
I also attended the very first vapercon EVER and have met, drank with and call(ed) people like Grimm Green, Drew Glien and Phil Busardo friends.
The Op can hold onto that false sense of superiority if he wants but some of us know better.
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