Why is a Provari P3 even a viable choice.

[Rossum]

LetsALL join hands and meet for drinks in Vegas! My treat!

I'm there the first week of November. Wherever you're buying us these drinks better allow vaping!

 

[Pinggolfer]

Marvelous.

And I'm in, just by the way. I LOVE it when someone else is buyin'

And in Vegas no less. I'm all in.

 

[USMCotaku]

I vape at 5 volts....someone looked that up for me once and it translates to around 9 watts. I dont need to vape at 50 watts like a fiend sucking on a theatrical fog machine. In fact I dont care about watts at all. They arent needed with a Provari and volts allow more fine tuning any way.

I'm FAR from a newbie, having owned my own successful vaping business before being shut down by the FDA.

I also attended the very first vapercon and have met, drank with and call(ed) people like Grimm Green, Drew Glien and Phil Busardo friends.

The Op can hold onto that false sense of superiority if he wants but some of us know better.

I have to do this, just can't resist..... You owned your own "vape shop" yet someone looked up what your wattage would be for you? Fyi 5 volts can easily be 40 watts, depending on your coil resistance.

Edit: On a device that adjusts in .1 watt intervals, voltage in fact does not provide finer tuning

 

[tj99959]

That's about a 5ml of juice drive from here, but is it OK if I pass on the drinks? Drank up my share years ago.

 

[USMCotaku]

So a rhetorical question. I'd someone was to start a thread about their perceived limitations of another device, lets say the DNA and it's inability to down step for lower wattage vaping on low ohm coils, does anyone think DNA users would pour in and rabble raise the way provari users do any time it happens? This was obviously not a pro provari thread, so why even come in here? Let people have their opinion and their voice. And for Pete's sake, lets stop pretending that provari's are faultless. Every manufacturer on the planet has product that fails in some way. A quick google search will show a known button issue with some provaris..... Just saying. My cheap itaste vv v3 is now over a year old and still going strong
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[bcalvanese]

Let's see, Evolv invented and patented VW as applied to PVs. Provape almost certainly licensed that technology from Evolv before they released the P3, meaning Evolv likely gets a royalty for every P3 sold. Yihi has of course done a nice job copying and and arguably improving technology that that Evolv invented several years ago, while Evolv has been busy inventing something entirely new. You see, Evolv is about to release a new generation of product that has not only step-down, but a totally new and very patentable innovation, namely the ability to control (or at least limit) coil temperature. This effectively eliminates the nasty production of aldehydes (primarily acrolein) that are formed when a coil gets too hot and is likely to be as much a game-changer as variable wattage was. So I don't think Evolv will be eating anyone's dust in the foreseeable future.

These types of circuits have been around long before e-cigarettes, and I'm pretty sure Provape has their own in house design.

If you want to think that someone who used existing technology and adapted it to control an electronic cigarette as the inventor, be my guest.

 

[bcalvanese]

Like BASF, they they don't make the products you buy; they just make the products you buy, better.

Don't you mean worse?

You can't even put the battery in backwards without frying the board. That, in and of itself is a deal breaker.

 

[DavidOH]

Knew the bashing was about to ramp up.

Predictable.

 

[Pinggolfer]

I knew it wouldn't end. Please continue to put down Provari as it has to be helping them to sell more. The usual bashers are back at it.

 

[sstarrx3]

All this seems so silly...how did something designed as an alternative to smoking turn into this juvenile cloud chasing hobby? This forum is just like car forums where people argue over the specs of their cars and the modifications they .......ize them with...each bad mouthing the others shortcomings while hailing their owns superiority.

 

[EBates]

Huuumm, did anyone else notice that the OP fired the first shot and then Poof Gone. The lord loves a good instigator. LOL

 

[Rossum]

These types of circuits have been around long before e-cigarettes, and I'm pretty sure Provape has their own in house design.

I've never claimed Evolv was doing Provape's electronics or firmware for them.

If you want to think that someone who used existing technology and adapted it to control an electronic cigarette as the inventor, be my guest.

Whether I think of it as such or not is irrelevant. The fact is that Evolv has been issued a US Patent for VW used in PVs. Since Provape is a US company and wanted to sell a PV using VW, they only had two choices: License the technology from Evolv, or wait for the Evolv's lawyers to file an infringement suit and challenge the validity of the patent in court. I'm speculating that they chose the former.

 

[DPLongo22]

Huuumm, did anyone else notice that the OP fired the first shot and then Poof Gone. The lord loves a good instigator. LOL

Yuh huh.

 

[Pinggolfer]

If you want to bash Provari go here and have a ball. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=592747

 

[DPLongo22]

If you want to bash Provari go here and have a ball. Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3

Some of the best EVER bashes! ;-)

 

[Pinggolfer]

I've never claimed Evolv was doing Provape's electronics or firmware for them.


Whether I think of it as such or not is irrelevant. The fact is that Evolv has been issued a US Patent for VW used in PVs. Since Provape is a US company and wanted to sell a PV using VW, they only had two choices: License the technology from Evolv, or wait for the Evolv's lawyers to file an infringement suit and challenge the validity of the patent in court. I'm speculating that they chose the former.

Or maybe they developed their own chip.

 

[Coldrake]

These types of circuits have been around long before e-cigarettes,

You should really go read the patent so you can understand what it is.

If you want to think that someone who used existing technology and adapted it to control an electronic cigarette as the inventor, be my guest.

I guess you'll have to argue that with the U.S. Patent office.

Don't you mean worse?

You can't even put the battery in backwards without frying the board. That, in and of itself is a deal breaker.

I look at my batteries when I put them in my mods. It's not hard. Honest.

 

[WorksForMe]

I've never claimed Evolv was doing Provape's electronics or firmware for them.


Whether I think of it as such or not is irrelevant. The fact is that Evolv has been issued a US Patent for VW used in PVs. Since Provape is a US company and wanted to sell a PV using VW, they only had two choices: License the technology from Evolv, or wait for the Evolv's lawyers to file an infringement suit and challenge the validity of the patent in court. I'm speculating that they chose the former.

Also, Mike Buzzetti, owner of Notcigs, owns the patent on VV. I don't know if he's tried to enforce his patent. That can get pretty expensive.

 

[USMCotaku]

Or maybe they developed their own chip.

Evolv's patent covers all vw usage in a pv....

 

[CMD-Ky]

I drive a pick-up, four wheel drive with a V-8 and trailer hitches front and rear; I also drive a Toyota Yaris. I am considering a motorcycle. I have a Provari 2.5 and I made my own SX-350 box that I use at less than ten watts. What meets my own needs or wants varies from day to day or even within a day. I am happy that for some short remaining time in this country that I can make the choices that I want to make without some supercilious twit, whether from the civilian or governmental sector, telling me what is best for me. If you like it then use it, recommend it, sing its praises from the top of the nearest tall building but, no matter what your position, don't try to change me, make fun of me or cram anything down my throat. I'll change if it makes sense to me; I'll ignore pejorative remarks with a smile; I'll puke back anything crammed into me.

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