Why is a Provari P3 even a viable choice.

[Ryedan]

LOL, it costs more than an original version...youtube video shows the poor quality. Why would a person want to buy a poor quality substitute for more money?

When I buy something from the US and want tracked shipping it costs me around $40. If I don't do that and the item does not get to me I have no recourse with the post office or the supplier. As I said, I believe there are restriction on vaping in Australia, so it might be hard to import product. Try to have a Provari shipped to Singapore and see how that goes. You can still buy them there, but prices are way higher than for us.

I don't know what the actual situation in Australia is and I hope someone who does will let us know. In the meantime I do know the situation could be very different there than here

 

[tj99959]

No they do not. Going bang is a property of maximum internal pressure. Being that lipos are constructed in pouches not unlike those potato chips come in, it's pretty much impossible for the bang to cause much, if any damage.

Li ion cylindrical cells, on the other hand are encased in metal. Nimh, nicads, limn, licr, etc all have that one property that allows them the potential to actually explode and cause damage... A case that can hold enough back pressure to cause real damage when it finally gives out.



Lipos also have 2 other very distinct advantages... maximum SAFE output and maximum SAFE input.

And the most important part of battery safety is not abusing your batteries. For example by pushing their safe charge and discharge limits.

This is a LiPo cell on a charger (I would call that one hell of a BANG)

Warning: You need to let the grass grow & the paint dry

 

[Pinggolfer]

So can a BIC lighter. Pressurized (to the point of remaining liquid) flammable gas in a plastic container with some metal bits on one end designed to make sparks. Most of us carried one for decades, yet we somehow fear a BATTERY?

Oh and speaking of batteries, how about that cell phone in people's pockets. I'm pretty sure the 3200 mAh cell in my phone isn't an IMR.

Bic sold billions of them and they all had the same fault. You can't use it if there is a slight breeze.

 

[zoiDman]

This is a LiPo cell on a charger (I would call that one hell of a BANG)

Warning: You need to let the grass grow & the paint dry

That or just Skip to the 7:08 Mark for the Impatient.

 

[tj99959]

So can a BIC lighter. Pressurized (to the point of remaining liquid) flammable gas in a plastic container with some metal bits on one end designed to make sparks. Most of us carried one for decades, yet we somehow fear a BATTERY?

Oh and speaking of batteries, how about that cell phone in people's pockets. I'm pretty sure the 3200 mAh cell in my phone isn't an IMR.

This one ended a man's life.

 

[zoiDman]

This one ended a man's life.

Not saying that Every Person in America owns a Cell Phone. It Only seems that way. But out of All the People who Own Cell Phones (+150,000,000?) I wonder How Many Blow Up ever year?

And if More People are Killed or Hurt by being Struck by Lightning than being Killed or Hurt by their Cell Phone Exploding?

 

[Nermal]

So can a BIC lighter. Pressurized (to the point of remaining liquid) flammable gas in a plastic container with some metal bits on one end designed to make sparks. Most of us carried one for decades, yet we somehow fear a BATTERY?

Oh and speaking of batteries, how about that cell phone in people's pockets. I'm pretty sure the 3200 mAh cell in my phone isn't an IMR.

Yeah, but still, I once ran a Bic through one wash cycle and two dryer cycles at a coin laundromat. It not only didn't explode, it still worked. Might have, but didn't. Even further off topic, I found somebody else's keychain led flashlight in the dryer, meaning at least one wash cycle and three go rounds in the dryer. As a matter of respect for a good product and a certain utility, I still carry the stubborn little thing.

 

[wonkeypickle]

And if More People are Killed or Hurt by being Struck by Lightning than being Killed or Hurt by their Cell Phone Exploding?

people killed by lightning per year : 24,000 according to wikipedia of course.

couldn't find a statistic for cell phone battery deaths, but i doubt it's over a couple hundred or so yearly.( just a guess)

14,000 killed in talking/texting while driving accidents, 99% of people in this thread are guilty of that one....

 

[zoiDman]

people killed by lightning per year : 24,000 according to wikipedia of course.

....

24,000 People.... Yikes. That's roughly 66 People EVERDAY. Seems Kinda High?

NWS Lightning Safety Fatalities

If 2 People Died from a Cell Phone Exploding in One Week, CNC and FOX News would Run 24-7 coverage of the Dangers of Cell Phones.

And Congress would be Called upon to do Something about this.

 

[Bassnorma]

1,2,3,4...I declare battery war!

 

[Coldrake]

This is a LiPo cell on a charger (I would call that one hell of a BANG)

Sounded more like a fssssssssssppffffffff to me. Definitely not a bang.

Personally, I'm not afraid of cell phones, laptops, or MVPs. But that's just me. I guess I'm just not paranoid enough.

 

[tj99959]

1,2,3,4...I declare battery war!

It really isn't that much of a war, but the safety issue with batteries has been around since before I started vaping.

I know it was just a bad timing sort of deal, But the Florida battery explosion was what nailed the coffin closed on our rights to vape in public places here in Utah.

 

[Bassnorma]

It really isn't that much of a war, but the safety issue with batteries has been around since before I started vaping.

I know it was just a bad timing sort of deal, But the Florida battery explosion was what nailed the coffin closed on our rights to vape in public places here in Utah.

That sux!!!!!

 

[USMCotaku]

Seriously? $169.00 for a metal clone when for $159.00 you can buy a Provari? It was a good laugh. I'm sure they have a waiting list.

I never said it would be good, or worth purchasing, just that a clone did exist

 

[Pinggolfer]

I never said it would be good, or worth purchasing, just that a clone did exist

I'd say Provape would melt it down. I'm not sure it qualifies as a clone.

 

[DPLongo22]

{Moderated}.

"Hello, Pandora? Yes, my name is Dave. I believe I've located your box..."

 

[beckdg]

This is a LiPo cell on a charger (I would call that one hell of a BANG)

Warning: You need to let the grass grow & the paint dry

That's hilarious. Striking a road flare has more umph. The "explosion" from severely over charging the cell barely turned the battery and moves it half the distance of its length. If you only knew the "bang" that batteries you've been playing with your whole life were capable of in comparison.

An ego explosion is much more dangerous with a lot less stored potential energy. They (like icr, imr, niXX and other metal tube cells) actually have the potential to sever a finger and/or throw shrapnel at a velocity capable of maiming a person. Nickel cadmium cells actually had a reputation for doing so when they were big in the RC circuits. (Exploding and throwing shrapnel)

 

[Bassnorma]

Check out Phil's DNA 40 video....brand new.

(sent from Mars, it's not as red as I imagined.)

 

[K_Tech]

I am amazed at the fact that "authentic" makers are not litigating more.

I'm not surprised. I've read different statistics on patent infringement lawsuits (because I was bored, and I'm a geek) but they seem to average around about 4 years and upwards of two million dollars.

 

[HgA1C]

I'm not surprised. I've read different statistics on patent infringement lawsuits (because I was bored, and I'm a geek) but they seem to average around about 4 years and upwards of two million dollars.

An effective letter written by a lawyer will make most websites/stores remove the offending product from inventory. It probably would only take a few thousand dollars from each of the affected parties to shutdown the cloning of artwork and logos from devices. Basically register their trademarks and send cease and desist letters to US retailers. I have a feeling this alone would increase the market for authentic mods. Fasttech and the cloners will respond by removing the marks, and maybe adding their own artwork. However, most Americans are too shallow/conscious to want to use an obviously faked product.

Now back to the topic. Provape has done an awesome job of investing in their brand. They are one of only a few name brands. I can remember when they came out with the P1. They were just another mod maker back then. They were intelligent, and defended their brand.