I would agree if they would put IMR batteries in them, but as long as they insist on using ICR & LiPo cells in them I wouldn't give one of them to my worse enemy!
There is a valid reason that LiPo bags exist!
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Why is a Provari P3 even a viable choice.
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I would agree if they would put IMR batteries in them, but as long as they insist on using ICR & LiPo cells in them I wouldn't give one of them to my worse enemy!
There is a valid reason that LiPo bags exist!
That's a totally valid point, but it won't stop them flying off the shelves. Egos use crap batteries too after all. Look at some of the mvp2 threads on here. People love these cheap little things. I can see the draws too, even though I've never owned either. Sure, if you had bad luck it could work out more expensive, but let's say the istick lasts a moderately heavy vaper for a year(going off the mvp2 stories so that's a total WAG) and gives a nice 20watt vape, with no additional battery or charger expenses, at an outlay of $35 a year + juice and topper. You can tell that guy that it's a beginner device, and that the P3 is built like a tank and has a great warranty, and you'll convert that guy occasionally, but most of the time he's going to look at the specs of both, shrug and keep buying another istick each year until some new $35 miracle replaces it.
Meh, I had some kind of point but it's vague even to me. All I really know is I love my ProVari, can't stand the attitudes of some of the Provape fans(who remind me of Harley fans, in a bad way), and currently have no need or desire to purchase a P3 but respect anyone who wants to.
The 30 Watt, Evolv powered, MVP 3.0 should be out by the end of year.
Yes, please!
If it's still powered by a LiPo cell, I'm still not interested.
ANY battery can be made to vent, there are no exceptions. It's what happens should the battery vent that's important.
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How so?!?
I understand that it's my choice to use what I do, but I won't own a PV that I don't choose for myself what batteries are put in it.
So why would I use something with a ICR or LiPo battery when there are so many different safe chemistry batteries to choose from?
Here is a bit of my reasoning for these posts:
It is only if we, the end users, make enough noise that folks at innoken, joyeteck, and the rest will understand that we will no longer accept products that have the potential of blowing up and hurting us.
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This is the one thing it'd be nice if they would fix with these inexpensive box devices.
I've got a few iSticks coming. Love the MVP.
But I'm under no illusions as to the relative safety between LIPO, ICR, and IMR batteries.
I've got a few iSticks coming. Love the MVP.
But I'm under no illusions as to the relative safety between LIPO, ICR, and IMR batteries.
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Whether it's viable or not the new ProVari P3 will be released on their site in December. As NY Yankee player and announcer Phil Rizzuto said many times "Holy Cow".
LiPo Batteries have 2 Big Advantages over a Traditional Rechargeable Battery.
They can be Made to about Any Size Needed. They Don't have to be Round Cylinders. And they are Less Expensive.
LIPO's got a Very Bad Name when they First Hit the Market. There were Big Time Safety Problems. But the Kinks were worked out. And Today they are Considered "Safe" to use in Most Applications.
Here's a Good General Info Read on LIPO's...
Li-polymer Battery: Substance or Hype?
Now, Would I suggest Putting a LIPO in an Unprotected Device. Or a Device that people might want to Sub-Ohm in. Absolutely Not.
But for Something like an MVP or an iStick, I don't see them as a Problem.
Yes I know that LiPo's have their advantages, BUT they still go BANG should they vent.
However, most of the time, should a LiPo go BANG, it will be on a charger after it has been dropped or received a hard knock ... and not in your mouth.
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Just Say'n that I haven't heard of To Many MVP's going Bang.
But you are Correct. A LIPO Can go Bang.
No they do not. Going bang is a property of maximum internal pressure. Being that lipos are constructed in pouches not unlike those potato chips come in, it's pretty much impossible for the bang to cause much, if any damage.
Li ion cylindrical cells, on the other hand are encased in metal. Nimh, nicads, limn, licr, etc all have that one property that allows them the potential to actually explode and cause damage... A case that can hold enough back pressure to cause real damage when it finally gives out.
Lipos also have 2 other very distinct advantages... maximum SAFE output and maximum SAFE input.
And the most important part of battery safety is not abusing your batteries. For example by pushing their safe charge and discharge limits.
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So can a BIC lighter. Pressurized (to the point of remaining liquid) flammable gas in a plastic container with some metal bits on one end designed to make sparks. Most of us carried one for decades, yet we somehow fear a BATTERY?
Oh and speaking of batteries, how about that cell phone in people's pockets. I'm pretty sure the 3200 mAh cell in my phone isn't an IMR.
Yup, it is not available, priced at $169, and with no logos or brand. I am sure many people would buy that if it ever comes out.
Why do you say it's not available? I was able to put one in the cart, though I didn't go any further. It is a Australian company so maybe they sell to Australia only. It probably costs a lot more to import one from the US, if that can be done. I know they have some restrictions on vaping there.
Reason number 1,573,876 to buy from Provape?
Provape supports CASAA and therefore your right to vape...
Provape supports CASAA and therefore your right to vape...
LOL, it costs more than an original version...youtube video shows the poor quality. Why would a person want to buy a poor quality substitute for more money?
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