Op you read my mind.
Im uneducated so if you disagree with me put it down to that.
I cant order the famous WTA as they dont sell it in my country. And asking people to carry it in. Is like asking somebody to bring in dope.
Im one of those few who suffered and is suffering for the past few months. With the something missing. And direct effect on my work productivity. I solder SMD components onto PCBs so its pretty obvious how my numbers have been hit. Sob story over.
My early attempts to get by where done by vaping Tobacco in an iolite. Im 100% you get all the alkaloids using this method. For me its like a light switch I know when its on and when it off.
Next about WTA being dangerous. I dont buy this. Cant be any more dangerous than handling nicotine.
Then I found dvap and his old posts on other forums. And got a clue.
I read about snuff. But I have seen people with cancer from the mouth from using it. And no I cant import it from the swiss. Nobody imports it in our country. I import and export stuff so know what a pain it is.
Then it struck me. The locals. Are chewing on tobacco leaf all the time. I tried some. You get cheap to fancy. Fancy being fully organic.
The locals also smoke something called a Bedi. The leafs of this have the highest nic. over 9%. They are nothing buy cheap mini cigars. Called Bedi or Charoot.
So I started to study tobacco the kinds and types. Where they are grown how they are cured etc.
Got samples from different locations.
Used google got some guidelines on methods of alkaloid extraction. As I always suspected and knew from my speed steeping nothing beats a microwave. I have industrial strength ultrasonic clears. Not the underpowered crappy amazon stuff. And even they dont work as well as the microwave. Anyway my steeping testing stories for another day.
So I first soak the leafs in PG. Very low % say 15% of total liquid. let it steep for a day.
Then I add some IPA or Vodka and mash. Then the next day add some water. Continue to mash. Continue to heat in the microwave under pressure but not let the temp cross 70c. And keep mashing. Put it thru a few pan with water in it boils. And see the alcohol and water added drop.
At the last step I add some VG and let it steep. Again repeating the heat pressure and mash process. Towards the end it just steeps for 4-5 weeks.
Now here is the part that is going to upset some people.
At every step of the way. I dip my little finger into the mash and put a tiny drop on my tongue.
At every stage the light switch goes boing on. What ever I need is still there.
After 4 weeks I again Mash. And start filtering.
From 100 Grams Leafs I got about 250 ML dark nice smelling juice.
Drop test says what ever I want is still there.
I have no idea why they say NET extraction from tobacco will not get you WTA. Like I said Im uneducated in chemistry.
All I know is that my NET is keeping me happy. And off the iolite. The TFA tobacco flavors could not be smoked. But add some of my NET and im in Vape Heaven. First time was almost a vape orgasm. The brain and taste buds both got satisfied.
While Im ok smoking this I would never consider selling it or sharing it with anybody.
Its my body and I understand the risks.
The other downside is my filtration process has to improve.
Cause it keeps gunking up my coils. This seems to be common with most guys doing NETs.
If I have missed out any steps from my process its more because my short term memory is in the toilet these days.
Ruined all my coils and haven't had a good vape since morning. Been busy working.
Guys who are doing their NETs at home. Must know that they are getting more than flavor from it.
I can believe all of them are wiping out every bit of Alkaloid and nicotine. Esp those guys doing 100 Grams and over. I read all the posts explaining how the nicotine vanishes. But here is the funny thing. After a drop test on my tongue. There is no craving for nic. So there has to be some there.
A special friend did bring me some Tobacco Absolute down. It was from a vendor in the US. Very clean. Two types A rustica and bulgarian. I tried both. Did not set off the light switch. Hardly effected flavor then again only used 1%.
Some things I see people doing which failed for me.
a. Soaking anything in VG it absorbs nothing. Neither Nic or alkaloids or flavor. Early test involved VG flavors and soaks. Failures all of them.
b. Not using heat and Microwave. Process becomes inefficient and slow.
c. Expecting it to work in a day or an hour. Though the light s/w does go off. From the second you have enough liquid mixed with the leaf.
My apologies if Ive stepped on anybodys toes. Or said anything wrong.
In keeping with don't discuss WTA Ive left out all the acid / base. And tried to stick to discussing a NET. And process I see being discussed by the guys making NET.
All you guys making NETs. I bet your one happy bunch.
Ps: In an effort to help those also having a tough time finding the right WTA. Or dose.
Just get whole leaf cured tobacco. Each Type or tobacco based on where its grown, how its cured will hit your throat different. I find the fire cured ones to have the pepper taste problem. The darker the leak and air dried have less pepper and more sweet.
The solution is out there. Dont get bogged down in the fancy prancy processes.
When you get your leafs (Buy Organic). Wash them once.
Then Just soak them in hot water. And mash a few times. Put a drop of this mash liquid on your tongue. Bingo. your sorted. Taking it from working on the tongue to working in a vape is not hard.
If you use a RBA then even the gunk on the coils is not an issue. Gunk on coils only becomes an issue on a dual coil protank. Which is a ..... to rebuild every day.