Why should I get a Reo?

[Troll from behind]

So, what is that makes this bottom feeder better than the rest?
Been vaping a long time and had my share of BF's in the form of two KK's, a Du Bocage and Bacchus and frankly they haven't impressed me, either dry or gurgling no matter how I squeesh or what I have on them.
Been hearing a lot of good from Reo's but would like to get this clear.
So, are they worth it and should I buy a Chalice with one or does a cheaper rba do the trick equally well?

 

[NicoHolic]

You should buy the Remoizer 2.0 (RM2) rebuildable dripping atomizer. If you squeeze (squonk) the bottle and hold for a couple seconds, the wick is going to be flooded and you won't be able to get dry hits. No tilting or inverting the mod needed. The only time I've ever gotten dry hits was squonking so lightly and quickly the wick didn't have enough juice and time to get wet. Squonking becomes as subconsciously habitual as ashing a cigarette or cigar, or tamping a pipe.

When you release the bottle, excess juice is sucked back down into the bottle, and any that misses will quickly gravity feed back down. There's no stand pipe involved. The feed hole is in the base and it drains well. I've never had a flooded hit.

This doesn't include me, but there are many here with considerable experience with tank type RBAs, high-end mechs, and Provaris, who vape nothing but their REO with RM2. Many sell this other expensive gear in order to buy more REOs. That's a testimony in itself. Most of us have previously owned VV/VW APVs and find ourselves using them as nothing more than resistance checkers. And most of us own more, often many more, than one REO.

The mechanical Grand with RM2 is as dead simple as it gets. The REOs have $4 easily replaceable hot springs that instantly collapse in the event of a short. The RM2 has drilled, widely-spaced posts (not one in the center and one next to it) that are easy to use and reduce the chance of a short, as does the ceramic base. The 6 ml bottle and a AW IMR 18650 are well matched, and make for an all day, one-handed dripping system. You need carry nothing more.

If you look up customer service in the dictionary, you won't find REO or Robert Eugene O'Neil because the level here is so high it's beyond expressing in words.

But the best part of owning a REO is this forum community, where the designer/builder actively participates. You aren't dealing with a faceless corporation. You're dealing with an open and enabling, passionate yet considerate, vendor and base of users. All jump in to help make your experience as impeccable as it can be!

 

[nerak]

Check out these REO forum threads, they more than explain why a REO should be given a shot! There are many more you can find too!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/457750-convince-me-reoville-place-i-should-call-home.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/463759-feel-hate.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/463782-finally-stopped-lurking-aka-hi-france.html

 

[johni]

The Reo is milled from a solid piece of aluminum, virtually indestructible. I've dropped mine more than once and the worst outcome was a broken drip tip.

Easily pocket-able, it is all I carry to work. With a fresh battery and full bottle of juice, I need no kit, backups, whatever, to get me through a work day. A small piece of cotton tucks easily inside for rewicking but you only need it if you mess up.

Juice changes are easy, just switch bottles. Some overlap of flavors but most of my juices are similar enough that it doesn't matter.

+1 for the Reomizer 2. Easy to build, easy to squonk, never a dry hit unless you run it too dry, never gurgles. Coiled decently, it is a cloud and flavor machine. Performs pretty much exactly like the Chalice at a fraction of the cost. No leaks unless you pocket it immediately after squonking.

Outstanding customer service and a great community to back it up.

 

[Troll from behind]

So does the RM2 work with all Reo's?

Yes, I do know that most of these questions have been thoroughly answerd, but the "official threads" ARE long and windy.

Also that hotspring does rise a question about voltage drop that is usually the case with those.

No DNA20 Reo yet?

 

[nerak]

The RM2 will fit all metal REO's except the Mini. For those two it will need to be milled down to fit. That can be requested when ordering.

The Wood REO's have different catch cups. Robert will mill a RM2 to fit any Woodvil.

The hot spring collapses in case of a short. Usually caused by a short in the atty.

BTW long and windy is good! You get responses from lots of people and even more questions answered.

 

[debzcf]

The Reo is milled from a solid piece of aluminum, virtually indestructible. I've dropped mine more than once and the worst outcome was a broken drip tip.

Easily pocket-able, it is all I carry to work. With a fresh battery and full bottle of juice, I need no kit, backups, whatever, to get me through a work day. A small piece of cotton tucks easily inside for rewicking but you only need it if you mess up.

Juice changes are easy, just switch bottles. Some overlap of flavors but most of my juices are similar enough that it doesn't matter.

+1 for the Reomizer 2. Easy to build, easy to squonk, never a dry hit unless you run it too dry, never gurgles. Coiled decently, it is a cloud and flavor machine. Performs pretty much exactly like the Chalice at a fraction of the cost. No leaks unless you pocket it immediately after squonking.

Outstanding customer service and a great community to back it up.

Great job with this! REO ownership in a nutshell.

 

[Raynman]

Just look at Karen's (nerak) avatar if all of those Reo's don't tell you something then you're not listening. This forum and the people in it are the most helpful and gracious I've ever seen. The owner of the company visits this forum often to make sure his peeps are doing well with his product. If by chance you don't like it (like that ever happens) you can sell it for near the price you bought it for. Once you do get one with the RM2 the only thing you'll be able to think about is what your next one will be.

 

[malkuth]

So does the RM2 work with all Reo's?

They will fit almost all of the current REOs. However, if you happen to get a REO that it does not fit on, Rob (the mod master) can, and does, mill it down to fit.

Yes, I do know that most of these questions have been thoroughly answerd, but the "official threads" ARE long and windy.

Also that hotspring does rise a question about voltage drop that is usually the case with those.

There are some in this area that are much more qualified to answer this, but I will give you a layman's answer. There is some voltage drop in the mod. This can be caused by many factors. This includes the amount of oxidation on the positive firing pin, use of improper batteries, and yes, even the spring. However, with a properly made coil (I recommend a microcoil with cotton wick) this voltage drop is not discernable for any but sub ohm coils. There are many in this thread that use .5 ohm coils exclusively, and do not report any problems with that setup.

No DNA20 Reo yet?

No. The DNA20 does not exist yet. [rant]Let me say this about the DNA20, having owned one. There are two advantages to having a DNA chip in a bottom feeder mod. One of them is a consistent vape throughout the life of your battery. If that is a requirement for you, I would recommend a kick. The only other advantage is a built in volt/ohm meter. The question I have about that is why? I have a multimeter (that is much cheaper and reliable than the DNA chip) that does these two things. Yes, it can be a pain to ohm out the coil when I build it. (It will add about 10 seconds to your total build time) The battery can be tested in the mod easily as well. The disadvantage of the DNA is obvious. You are taking a rock solid dependable mod, and inserting a convenience factor that will automatically shorten the life span of your mod. The REO as built today can last easily 20 years with minimal maintenance. When you add the DNA chip, you reduce that time to (typically) 1 year. In short, do not waste your money. [/rant]

You will find that the REO is a dependable work horse of a mod. If for some chance (it has happened, everybody is different, with different perspectives) you find that you do not like the REO, a simple trip to the classies will remedy that situation. You will find that the REOs retain their value for years.

 

[lostknitter]

The RM2 will fit all metal REO's except the Mini and Mini 2.0. For those two it will need to be milled down to fit. That can be requested when ordering.

The Wood REO's have different catch cups. Robert will mill a RM2 to fit any Woodvil.

The RM2 fits the 2.0 without milling it down. Just FYI

 

[Matthee]

Hi Troll from behind, welcome to this forum. I see a troll is a supernatural being in Norse mythology and Scandinavian folklore or, in internet slang "a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion". I am sure you represent the former. The "from behind" you will have to explain to us.

Unfortunately I had no experience with other BF's - skipped a few stages. Came from a VV/VW Vamo and Protanks to a Reo Grand. Have now owned it for some 6 days. Its solid, no rattles, no gurgling, no leaking, no dry hits, easy and fast to recoil and recharge juice and a fantastic vape compared to my little previous experience. Give it a try - I have already ordered a second one!

 

[CATastrophe]

Why should you get a REO?


Why not?

 

[NicoHolic]

I'll gladly pay the small resistance price of an instantly acting hot spring that protects not only me, but also my AW IMR battery.

The price I pay is probably less than one less wrap on my micro coil. I don't know exactly and I don't care as long as the REO performs awesomely, which it does. Any added impedance is resistive, not capacitive or inductive (at less than RF), so it has no effect on how quickly it hits. The thermal mass of the coil is much more influential on that.

The user market for REOs includes those who vape lightly, a weakness of the DNA20. The DNA20's lack of reverse battery protection also probably makes it a non-starter here. Most of us here choose the mechanical REOs anyway. Wash 'em in the kitchen sink, pull 'em off the bottom of the pool, shuffle across the carpet in the dead of winter and static zap one... it just doesn't matter. In fact, a bowl of uncooked rice has saved even the VV Grand from the pool.

Use anything from a simple 1.2-2.0Ω standard coil around silica or ekowool, to a 0.4-0.6Ω cotton-wicked micro coil on a REO Grand. You'll find the best of whatever suits you with a REO.

 

[Raynman]

Why not? The only reason I can think of is because you have every color combo in every style already. Other than that I'm at a loss.

 

[NicoHolic]

Why not? The only reason I can think of is because you have every color combo in every style already. Other than that I'm at a loss.

Let me expand on that... every finish and color combo that's ever been produced on every model that's ever been produce... compounded by every combo of WOOD on every model it's been available on.

 

[CATastrophe]

Why not? The only reason I can think of is because you have every color combo in every style already. Other than that I'm at a loss.

I don't think that will happen. Rob just posted olive drab and I'm sure there will be other new colors. It's an endless cycle!

 

[JC Okie]

Well, that about sums it up....great answers, folks. The more you read around this forum, the more you see the phrase, "...I should have done it sooner..." or something similar. It really is an endgame device. Sometimes you just have to try something for yourself to truly know what all the hoop-la is about. The REO has been great from the beginning, but now that rebuildable attys are available, it's even better. You won't find a better vaping combination than a REO and an RM2.

 

[Evil Speakers]

The Reo with the RM2 worked so well for me that I quit smoking without realizing it. Seriously. Last week I realized I had gone two days without a cigarette. I am now on day 8. I have been vaping since March and although the various other devices cut my smoking down to less than 5 a day, I wasn't able to completely quit. The Reo/RM2 is so easy to use and satisfying, I have lost my desire to smoke. There is a slight learning curve with bottom feeding/building coils, but once you get it down, there is nothing better in my opinion.

Oh yeah, you also won't find a better owner or supporting community. Rob and his loyal followers (myself included) want you to truly love your Reo and will do anything to help you out.

 

[NicoHolic]

The Reo with the RM2 worked so well for me that I quit smoking without realizing it...

I have a coolidor (48 qt cooler used as a humidor), full of fine cigars and pounds of great pipe tobacco. I get a tremendous nic hit in addition to the pleasure and huge clouds they give me, even without lung inhales. I only intend to use vaping to space out my consumption. With the 0.5Ω coil on my home Grand/RM2 and 0.8Ω on my commute/work Grand/RM2, I get as much or more vapor/smoke and nic as I do with the fattest cigars or widest bowl pipes. I haven't smoked tobacco for over a month since I've had a REO, but I still don't plan on not smoking my stash... as a treat.

 

[Troll from behind]

Ok, you talked me into it, now just need some time to gather the needed money.
RM2 with cotton microcoil & Grand it would be, then.

Been playing with RBA's for long, Line V2 was the first thing to try but microcoil & cotton is where to stop. None of the issues of mesh, namely Juice turning icky black.