why smokers constantly attacking me?

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DaveP

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buy a pack of card stock and print some small cards to keep in your wallet. Tell them what juice is made of then hand them one of these when they start talking about what's in yours.

http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/about-smoking/facts-figures/whats-in-a-cigarette.html

Here are a few of the chemicals in tobacco smoke, and other places they are found:

Acetone – found in nail polish remover
Acetic Acid – an ingredient in hair dye
Ammonia – a common household cleaner
Arsenic – used in rat poison
Benzene – found in rubber cement
Butane – used in lighter fluid
Cadmium – active component in battery acid
Carbon Monoxide – released in car exhaust fumes
Formaldehyde – embalming fluid
Hexamine – found in barbecue lighter fluid
Lead – used in batteries
Naphthalene – an ingredient in moth balls
Methanol – a main component in rocket fuel
Nicotine – used as insecticide
Tar – material for paving roads
Toluene - used to manufacture paint
 

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i've never had that kind of problem.Me and my girlfriend are the only one in our circle of smoker friends with e-cig;s.They are mostly curious... :blush:

Around me, I'm only one who had stop smoking cigarettes, and I have 2 friends who smoke eCigs, but in addition they still smoke classic cigarettes (more than few/day) :/ everybody else (smokers) are moking me whenever they can for smoking eCigs :/

In the past I was trying to explain to them the reasons covered with facts, but lately I just pretend that I don't hear them...

btw. I always thought that there are only people around me who are so stubborn. When I was smoking , I was allways aware what harm I'm doing to myself.
 

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Honestly its gotten so old now, I dont even try to say anything about it anymore. When I get the vaping is bad for you from smokers like the absurdity of them saying that while smoking makes my brain implode. And if its a non-smoker I just discount it altogether because I know they dont know or care anything about the subject to have researched it at all, its just something they heard. Ill usually just say thats not true and talk about something else because theyre not going to listen anyway. If they're open to the idea of vaping theyll find out about it and rersearch it on thier own like I did, nothing I say is going to change thier outlook on the subject in 30 seconds.
 

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Very rare that anyone tries to rain on my party but if they wish to discuss the merits of smoking versus Vaping I always insist on fact. Of course I mention the 4000 chems in tobacco and 600 ingredients.
What really stops them in their tracks is when I mention that vape juice is comprised of PG, VG, flavoring and Nicotine....I then remind them that tobacco contains: PG, Flavoring and Nicotine....also mention they're smoking carpet glue and ammonia.
Understand most "anger" comes from fear and many smokers are angry because their beloved habit is constantly under attack. I can remember being at a social gathering running out for a quick cigarette and when returning being looked at, because of the smell, as if I had dirtied my diaper :-(
 

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I went through the mocking thing with family members who told me my ecig had antifreeze in it. Being knowledgeable about how that came about, I was able to tell them WHY PG is in antifreeze. For those who haven't heard the story, animals were licking up antifreeze off the ground and out of hubcaps after someone dumped the old stuff on the ground when they drained their radiators to refill. Ethylene Glycol is poison, so Propylene Glycol was substituted. PG is in a long list of things we eat, drink and rub on our skin. It's in soft drinks, candy, snowball juice, salad dressing, toothpaste, makeup, and anywhere a smooth thickening agent is needed.
 

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I'we been vaping for around 4,5 months now. And every now and then some smoker came up, and start telling me how vaping is bad for my health, how I don't know what I'm inhaling, why I'm doing this to my self .... blah, blah ...

They're attacking you because from their perspective, it's too good to be true. You can still inhale nicotine but without all the death poison and clouds of stink? How is that even possible?? Change is scary for most people, and just by being there you're confronting them with the idea that they could, right now, switch to vaping and stop all the damage cigarettes could be doing to them. So now they feel like they have to make a decision about changing (which is their issue, not yours!)

Reassure them with education if they're open. If they just wanna yell at you, just say, "Hey I know change is scary, but I'm not making you do this. I'm doing it for myself, and I know what I'm doing. Thanks, though." XD

Most of my smoker friends are automatically in favor of vaping for other people, but haven't made the leap themselves. "Well, it can't be any worse than what I'm smoking! More power to ya."
 
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HauntedMyst

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Lol
I'm 6ft and 370 lbs they don't come up to me like that lol
They are very respectful lol

You are goofy. They aren't respectful because of your height and weight. They are respectful because you are holding a tiger baby and they know one day it will grow up and that you can aim it at them and turn them into tiger lunch.
 

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so lemme get this straight, we vapers don't know what we're inhaling as if cigarettes are a natural, chemical and additive free alternative? that's ridiculous.

all i know is, back in the day coming home from a bar and 6-10 cigarettes deep, my lungs and throat felt like crap in the morning and i was wheezing for a good few hours. matter of fact, i recently went to a show and my e-cig was acting up on me, so i ended up smoking a bunch of my buddy's cigs instead. same crappy feeling come morning time. vaping has given me no such problems.
 

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Buy a pack of card stock and print some small cards to keep in your wallet. Tell them what juice is made of then hand them one of these when they start talking about what's in yours.

What's in a Cigarette? - American Lung Association

I like this idea, plus put the ingredients for e-cigs on the other side and where they can be found. I'd remove the references to nicotine and formaldehyde though. Nicotine because it's found in both products, and formaldehyde has been found in small amounts in exhaled vapor, possibly because our bodies naturally produce it.

Propylene Glycol - found in toothpaste, water enhancers, fog machines, air fresheners and asthma inhalers. Pumped through hospital air systems to prevent airborne illness.
Vegetable Glycerin - found in food items like cake frosting, chocolate milk and marshmallows, sometimes used in fog machines as an alternative to PG.
Food Flavoring - self explanatory.
Nicotine - no worse than caffeine outside of tobacco.
 
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I'we been vaping for around 4,5 months now. And every now and then some smoker came up, and start telling me how vaping is bad for my health, how I don't know what I'm inhaling, why I'm doing this to my self .... blah, blah ...
And when I ask them did they read recently any medical, scientific paper, or research about eliquids and vaping, the answer is NO, but they still holding their opinion that I can't know what are the substances in eliquid (No matter if I tell them that the composition clearly indicated on the packaging).
And on my question if they know what is in tobacco cigarette they smoke, the answer is that whatever it is, it can't be as carcinogenic, as my vape.

The conversation is most often finished when I say: What's the worst thing that can happen to me? I can get cancer, and to you?

How do you handle such smartasses?

btw. sorry on my bad English ;-)


I would probably reply like this to the haters.


"Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Wanting to do something about it is the second, and when your willing, I will educate you on what vaping is all about and how to quit killing yourself with cigarettes."

And quietly walk away.
 

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I've only had this happen a few times. Now, I don't usually throw around the fact that I have a Ph.D. in molecular biology, but when someone comes around spouting of nonsense like that I feel that a little tackiness from me in that area is justified. If they will stand still for it I give them an earful of scientific data. I don't know whether it changes any of their opinions, but I'm pretty sure they don't walk away feeling that they've won the argument with me. Lol.

Completely off topic but I love your Avatar! I have a Dawkins "A" tattooed on my upper left arm!

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