Wick and Wire Sizes

[LMP]

I received my first rebuildable atomizer, an RM2 but it didn’t come with any wick or wire.

I was looking at the REO website to order some but there are three different sizes of wick and 4 different sizes of wire.

I am new to this rebuildable atomizer stuff so I am wondering what sizes to buy?

 

[Plumes.91]

Do you have a mulimeter or a mod capable of measuring resistance? You need this in order to rebuild or you can potentially fire a short and your battery will either explode, or vent gas with enough force to rocket your drip tip down your throat, or vent gas hot enough to give your hand, lips or face 3rd degree burns. You have got to read up on rebuilding before you begin rebuilding. Head to the mechanical mod forum & read the sticky on battery safety. Then head to the rebuilding forum and read the sticky titled Resistance Wire. If you didn't already know about these stickies & if you haven't yet read them, my guess is that you do not know enough about rebuilding. So just head to those forums here and read up, then you'll be good to go!

 

[Funk Dracula]

Do you have a mulimeter or a mod capable of measuring resistance? You need this in order to rebuild or you can potentially fire a short and your battery will either explode, or vent gas with enough force to rocket your drip tip down your throat, or vent gas hot enough to give your hand, lips or face 3rd degree burns. You have got to read up on rebuilding before you begin rebuilding. Head to the mechanical mod forum & read the sticky on battery safety. Then head to the rebuilding forum and read the sticky titled Resistance Wire. If you didn't already know about these stickies & if you haven't yet read them, my guess is that you do not know enough about rebuilding. So just head to those forums here and read up, then you'll be good to go!

Whoa there buddy!

No face's are melting or 3rd degree burns are happening, man. You trying to say the sky is falling?

I'm all about safety and education and stuff... but yeah let's not over-react...

Super_X has made some great videos for beginner RM2 builds.




Here's a link to his channel:
sxmxdrifter - YouTube


An even simpler starting point would be a simple looped silica 5/6 wrap coil. I remember that even Rob made a simple video showing that but can't find it for the life of me.

Either way your definitely going need at least some Kanthal, and yes; a means to check the resistance of your build. Either 30g or 28g will be a good starting point for Kanthal.

Affordable bulk wire direct from the manufacturer:

Kanthal Wire 30 Gauge RW0107 - 100 FT 0.39oz Series A-1 Resistance AWG

Kanthal Wire 28 Gauge RW0118 - 100 Ft 0.61oz Series A-1 Resistance AWG

Easy to use Ohm meter:

510 Ohm Meter Model 2 - Kidney Puncher

 

[MamaTried]

Whoa there buddy!

No face's are melting or 3rd degree burns are happening, man. You trying to say the sky is falling?

I'm all about safety and education and stuff... but yeah let's not over-react...

Super_X has made some great videos for beginner RM2 builds.




Here's a link to his channel:
sxmxdrifter - YouTube

Whoa there, Funk. Plumes' advice was spot-on, IMHO, or perhaps just a tad over-cautious... OP did not give any indication of what his experience level was with the stuff that really matters, like battery safety. Erring on the side of caution is appropriate.

i strongly suggest LMP start here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...op-reference-shop-new-experienced-vapers.html

if that's all old hat to LMP, then at least it may lead to a more specific question.

 

[LMP]

Yeah, I’ve been at it for over three years so...

 

[Ian444]

Yes, but...just to present another angle...assuming LMP has a Reo to go with the RM2 that is...

...if you use the recommended AW IMR battery, even if the coil goes short circuit, there will be no bad except the battery spring will sag and put the Reo out of action until the spring is replaced. Rob designed the Reo to be as safe as possible. So you can just use the recommended battery, build a coil with Super_X's video, test the coil with a multimeter or coil tester before firing it, all without spending 2 months on the internet bringing yourself up to speed with battery specs, battery chemical composition, coil building techniques, types of coils, fuses, mod protection circuits...man, it can go on for ever and ever

A. Recommended battery
B. Coil same as Super_X video
C. Test the coil


Even these coils would get you started, but the shipping would be slow.

I was looking at the REO website to order some but there are three different sizes of wick and 4 different sizes of wire.

I am new to this rebuildable atomizer stuff so I am wondering what sizes to buy?

Get some 30 gauge and 28 gauge Kanthal wire. Can't help you with wick since I use cotton for the wick.

ETA - oops didn't see your post LMP, ahh well, I'll leave my post as is anyway...

 

[MamaTried]

Yeah, I’ve been at it for over three years so...

in that case, you should certainly know that providing more info in your question will lead to much better answers

even tho you said you just received your first rebuildable atomizer, and even tho you said you are "new to this rebuildable atomizer stuff"

so...


ETA: 3 years? most of us should be asking you this stuff...

 

[Ian444]

ETA: 3 years? most of us should be asking you this stuff...

I've only been in for 3 months, maybe I should delete my post?

 

[nerak]

I received my first rebuildable atomizer, an RM2 but it didn’t come with any wick or wire.

I was looking at the REO website to order some but there are three different sizes of wick and 4 different sizes of wire.

I am new to this rebuildable atomizer stuff so I am wondering what sizes to buy?

This thread will give you an idea of the coil sizes and the number of coils with different wire gauges. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/446263-micro-coils-ohms-description.html
You can use the ohms of the atomizer you are now using for a guide and build a comparable ohm coil.

 

[LMP]

I’ve had my REO Grand for about two years.

 

[MamaTried]

I’ve had my REO Grand for about two years.

cool. may i suggest that you look here?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...op-reference-shop-new-experienced-vapers.html


that post is a good summary of what everyone here has been trying to say. it will be educational, and, if nothing else, assist you in asking more specific questions that you will want answered in order for the pros to help to really get ya rockin'

 

[Plumes.91]

I find it more appropriate to deliver worse case scenarios than to omit possible safety hazards. An IMR battery is safer than a LiMn battery in that in most cases, it will degas rather than explode with fire. IMR batteries will in most cases just vent, but they CAN explode with force or melt, in severe cases. & this has happened often enough for there to be pictures of the after effects of this happening on the internet. If the OP were to go ahead and rebuild with LiMn batteries, or worse, unprotected LiMn batteries, he would be at risk of thermal runaway and possible energetic explosion. This is why I recommended he read up on battery safety before rebuilding. The Reo may have a hot spring, but if a battery were to explode with exerted force, there is a hole in the side of the reo that would allow for burns to the hand.

The OP's post made it seem as though he was brand new to the world of rebuilding. & when I sense someone is new to rebuilding, I try to warn about shorts and I try to recommend an ohm meter, (and ideally a battery voltage tester as well) and study on rebuilding. I allow the next people to post under me to explain the OP's original question because I never feel right giving someone the information to go forward with rebuilding if I feel like they do not own an ohm meter or if I feel they do not possess a wide knowledge on rebuild safety.

Faces will melt.

 

[Funk Dracula]

I find it more appropriate to deliver worse case scenarios than to omit possible safety hazards. An IMR battery is safer than a LiMn battery in that in most cases, it will degas rather than explode with fire. IMR batteries will in most cases just vent, but they CAN explode with force or melt, in severe cases. & this has happened often enough for there to be pictures of the after effects of this happening on the internet. If the OP were to go ahead and rebuild with LiMn batteries, or worse, unprotected LiMn batteries, he would be at risk of thermal runaway and possible energetic explosion. This is why I recommended he read up on battery safety before rebuilding. The Reo may have a hot spring, but if a battery were to explode with exerted force, there is a hole in the side of the reo that would allow for burns to the hand.

The OP's post made it seem as though he was brand new to the world of rebuilding. & when I sense someone is new to rebuilding, I try to warn about shorts and I try to recommend an ohm meter, (and ideally a battery voltage tester as well) and study on rebuilding. I allow the next people to post under me to explain the OP's original question because I never feel right giving someone the information to go forward with rebuilding if I feel like they do not own an ohm meter or if I feel they do not possess a wide knowledge on rebuild safety.

Faces will melt.

I understand Plumes. I wasn't trying to call you out or anything, and I hope you didn't take any offense. If you did I apologize. I'm in complete agreement about the need for an understanding of some basic battery safety.

I just think sometimes the "batteries blowing up" scenario can be a bit of a hyperbole thrown around ECF. Yes they can blow up, but it really does take some circumstances to do so outside of cheap trustfire ICRs.

 

[Plumes.91]

oh my god that literally made me crack up. I am stealing that and using it the next time someone new to rebuilding asks a question. I think you were well within friendly parameters man, sorry. I do like to lay it on thick. I figure if I really worry them, they'll at least read up on the basics. If I pass it off as something marginally important, they figure they can start off without an ohm meter and get one later, or they figure they can get away with using a crappy ultrafire or whatever.... a battery they got out of the charge pack for their old laptop. & then BOOM! Something I could have helped them avoid. So, I take the propaganda route. Because there is a legitimate risk. Plus, its fun telling people that they can technically get 3rd degree burns if they don't do as I say!

 

[super_X_drifter]

LMP,

Here's a little compilation.

This may help you select the wire:

Here's a new video for making tight coil without fire / squeezing:
http://youtu.be/bp8yqFojsEU

It's allot easier than you may be thinking trust me.