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Meant to ask you about this...my gauze is 12 ply or so, I end up unfolding it to the point where I think its 2 ply for the strips
What about you?
I'm thinking of thinning my CE2 wick even more, I started outpacing it a bit as it got below half
Cotton seems to be very greedy. It really sucks up juice, it wicks with a vengeance, which leads to gurgling, and flooding of the heating element (though not to the point where I get a leak through the air tube). This incarnation was MUCH better, but as I said, still not perfect.
An example of juice hogging: When I fill a CE2 and regret my choice of juice, I just dump it out, and pretty much ALL of it runs out (minus what's in the wick only, which seems to be about .3 ml or so)
When I tried to empty the cotton wick set up multiple times, I'm missing about .9 ml, I kid you not lol. (these are XLs, 1.8 mls). The wick expands like a gremlin in water, and even holds a thick layer of juice around it, beneath it, etc.
Yes it does wick with a vengeance! Try putting a coil on one of those dinosaur thingys they you see at the supermarket that expand to like 100 times their size when you wet them (you know what I'm talking about) and see how that works out for you...
And its interesting to consider in this regard that common wisdom seems to be, that vape is too large to reach the alveoli, and most absorption occurs in the nasopharynx. IF this is true (I have no idea what anyone bases this on, wrt to research, etc; or perhaps its simply a theoretic deduction based on the known size of vaporized VG/PG)
That said, if the stuff irritates your 'throat' (which depending on what you mean, may actually be a GI reaction, not a pulmonary issue), don't use it.
Cotton may also be releasing some nasties as well.
**Really ...... about the stardust situation, I have nothing to put on my Echos that I like (except a modded Vision tank)!!!
Interesting info. I'll have to read up on that stuff...
I used pads that came individually sealed and then just unfolded them completely - seemed to be 1 ply at that point. Not sure what configuration you are working with but I think the 2 ply would be fine. Also from what we've seen the 12 ply variant might also work well. Once the juice hits the wick it sops it right up...
Hope that helps.
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so what would you estimate the size of those silica fibers is? my money is on, "not small enough to make it past the trachea"
so what would you estimate the size of those silica fibers is? my money is on, "not small enough to make it past the trachea"
But enough to sting into epiglottis, vocal cords,trachea, bronchi, stomac when swallowed... and there is particles of smaller size too.
Thanks for talking about this subject, EvilGrym. I think it is very important!
Since it seems to have been missed the first time, I ask again, should I try this first with the cotton gauze, or the cotton or bamboo yarn?
Since it seems to have been missed the first time, I ask again, should I try this first with the cotton gauze, or the cotton or bamboo yarn?
Interesting thread ( no punn intended)
I'm pretty new to vaping and watched Rockin Robbies vids on re-wicking the Vision Clearomizers that I have come to enjoy. I saw numerous different types of materials they were using. I will have to go back and check. I havent ordered any wicking as of yet but would like to so I can freshen up these Vision clearos when need be.
As a test however, I tore apart a fresh 510 CE2 style Dual coil 1.5 ohm carto to use the wick and wire try and bring that weak hitting Vision clearo ( stardust ) back to life. I dont have a multimeter ( yet ) but figured it was worth a go. I used the coil from the top portion of the CE2 ( smaller gauge then the lower coil it seemed) and used the wicking from the CE2 as well. I made 4 wraps around the wick and popped it into the Vision clearo. It vapes like a champ on a Riva 1100 mah. Tried on my lavatube as well at 3.0 and it was lacking.
Now to get a multimeter and see what the actual ohm rating is !
I have to go back and read the rest of this thread to see what Cyrus Vap meant by " Modded Vision"
So is there a safe wick of choice ???
I'm pretty new to vaping and watched Rockin Robbies vids on re-wicking the Vision Clearomizers that I have come to enjoy. I saw numerous different types of materials they were using. I will have to go back and check. I havent ordered any wicking as of yet but would like to so I can freshen up these Vision clearos when need be.
As a test however, I tore apart a fresh 510 CE2 style Dual coil 1.5 ohm carto to use the wick and wire try and bring that weak hitting Vision clearo ( stardust ) back to life. I dont have a multimeter ( yet ) but figured it was worth a go. I used the coil from the top portion of the CE2 ( smaller gauge then the lower coil it seemed) and used the wicking from the CE2 as well. I made 4 wraps around the wick and popped it into the Vision clearo. It vapes like a champ on a Riva 1100 mah. Tried on my lavatube as well at 3.0 and it was lacking.
Now to get a multimeter and see what the actual ohm rating is !
I have to go back and read the rest of this thread to see what Cyrus Vap meant by " Modded Vision"
So is there a safe wick of choice ???
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Progress today!
Stopped by michaels and picked up the bamboo yarn as above, and also some 100% cotton yarn that's about the same caliber as stock CE2 wick
I have a single strand of the cotton in a Stardust and a Repairable CE2 and they are 100% on par with silica so far...we'll see. (80% VG BTW). Will play with the bamboo on another day, as its going to require braiding
A possible fix for the silicon nastiness on the stardusts.
I made my coil and wick assembly this time, but thread the ends of the coil into two pieces of 27 gauge stainless steel hypodermic tubing, and pushed the tubing up to the wick. So effectively, the coil 'ends' on the wick, and instead of reaching down through the silicon, its inserted into hypodermic tubing (which functions as no resistance wire and then reaches through the silicon).
I left the tubing a tad longer than Robbie leaves the coils in his video. Assembled and inserted, I got 1.4 ohms (not surprising). Pulled up on the wick assembly and pushed down on the silicon with a vengeance. Got 4.5 ohms lol. Pushed the wick/coil down a bit, 2.4 right on the boobies.
I vaped 100% unflavored VG (8% water content) and its pretty much perfect. I maybe getting a SLIGHT silicon undertaste, but I'm not sure if I'm hallucinating. Or not. Regardless I switched to unflavored nic base at 25 mg/ml, 75% VG and I don't taste the silicon anymore, so its 'coverable' even if its there.
Stopped by michaels and picked up the bamboo yarn as above, and also some 100% cotton yarn that's about the same caliber as stock CE2 wick
I have a single strand of the cotton in a Stardust and a Repairable CE2 and they are 100% on par with silica so far...we'll see. (80% VG BTW). Will play with the bamboo on another day, as its going to require braiding
A possible fix for the silicon nastiness on the stardusts.
I made my coil and wick assembly this time, but thread the ends of the coil into two pieces of 27 gauge stainless steel hypodermic tubing, and pushed the tubing up to the wick. So effectively, the coil 'ends' on the wick, and instead of reaching down through the silicon, its inserted into hypodermic tubing (which functions as no resistance wire and then reaches through the silicon).
I left the tubing a tad longer than Robbie leaves the coils in his video. Assembled and inserted, I got 1.4 ohms (not surprising). Pulled up on the wick assembly and pushed down on the silicon with a vengeance. Got 4.5 ohms lol. Pushed the wick/coil down a bit, 2.4 right on the boobies.
I vaped 100% unflavored VG (8% water content) and its pretty much perfect. I maybe getting a SLIGHT silicon undertaste, but I'm not sure if I'm hallucinating. Or not. Regardless I switched to unflavored nic base at 25 mg/ml, 75% VG and I don't taste the silicon anymore, so its 'coverable' even if its there.
This sounds great!
Can you elaborate on the hypodermic tubing - I'm not familiar with that. Guessing that it's the equivalent to no resistance wire.
You got any pics of this?
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I think you should try all of them and compare results. Then you can choose wat's up to you. Start with gauze if you already have it.
I'm not having good results with cotton wick on a dripper. I drip it absorbs 4 hits later its dry the one I built yesterday was all gunked in one day and tasted burnt though I never dry burned. I'll try bamboo viscose next if its the same its safe to say this is not so efficient in drippers.
Comparision of cotton yarn and bamboo
Bamboo is definitely artifical fiber ( too regular shape)
Bamboo is definitely artifical fiber ( too regular shape)
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Closely following this thread for SS mesh alternatives 
"Medical gauze", is that the stuff you just buy at the pharmacy or even supermarket? like this
http://www.ok-salute.it/salute/diagnosi-e-cure/2011/gallery/img/Garza450Photoxpress_3432441.jpg
That would be really handy, but wouldnt it get burnt like silica and also lose strands as it gets ruined by use?
It should be cotton though some perhaps less harmful than silica.
"Medical gauze", is that the stuff you just buy at the pharmacy or even supermarket? like this
http://www.ok-salute.it/salute/diagnosi-e-cure/2011/gallery/img/Garza450Photoxpress_3432441.jpg
That would be really handy, but wouldnt it get burnt like silica and also lose strands as it gets ruined by use?
It should be cotton though some perhaps less harmful than silica.
Closely following this thread for SS mesh alternatives
Why you don't like SS mesh?
Anyway, organism can fight with organic intrusion much better than nonorganic.
The problem is, it takes too long to get oxidized and prepared to avoid short circuit, something like a rope that you can just remove, and use a sewing needle to replace it inside the coil would be a lot more handy.
Plus, I don't know exactly what is going on when I oxidize.
As grym said, the issue with silica is, the body cannot clear it. It sits in your lungs, and stays put. Enter massive inflammatory reaction, tissue remodeling, fibrosis, etc and when this goes chronic, you're dead. Immune cells even try to phagocytize it and end up ...getting wrecked
From what I understand cotton at worse causes irritation and hypersensitivity type reactions (type I I believe) that are reversible
EDIT: And btw, 5 microns is the upper limit of silica particles that make it into the terminal airways, 1 micron is the magic number for chronic retention/causing pneumoconiosis.
From what I understand cotton at worse causes irritation and hypersensitivity type reactions (type I I believe) that are reversible
EDIT: And btw, 5 microns is the upper limit of silica particles that make it into the terminal airways, 1 micron is the magic number for chronic retention/causing pneumoconiosis.
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