I take that back, cotton dust also can cause COPD with chronicity and pneumoconiosis, just more commonly a reversible Type I type reaction (which terminates with elimination of exposure ) 
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is ceramic wick the 'nextel' stuff people talk about? I'm pretty ignorant on this subject
Had my eye on the nextel stuff as the safest version of the glass fibers. But the nextel is woven with organics to aid in handling and need to be torched at high temps to prepare it before use. I don't know how easy it is to hit the temp needed and don't have a way to measure it. Any one have any ideas/experience? I have a hand held butane torch I bought to test my silica wicks and a propane torch.
Since you guys using cotton will be changing wicks a lot due to its inherent filtering effect gumming it up...you may want to use a "taco" type coil that I used to use on my CE2's...much easier to change. Have fun!
If the trick is keeping cotton wet then I can assume it'd work really well for drippers, your wick is bound to be always wet since you're after those 2-3 great drags before refill.
So cotton would probably last you at least a week, and chaging it altogether shouldnt be too hard since you can use a slightly smaller diameter than the coil, slide it inside, and then "expand" it to fit with a few drops of juice.
What I don't understand is how exactly you make the wick from bandage gauze, do I just unroll the bandage, and roll it crudely in a small tube, as if it was SS mesh?
I'm sure theres alternatives (bamboo, or that brown rope used to tie food up for oven cooking, pretty sure thats cotton too?), but the 100% cotton bandages are probably the easiest/"safest", approach, also to come across for everyone.
Taco coil looks pretty good too, thanks nicotime
So cotton would probably last you at least a week, and chaging it altogether shouldnt be too hard since you can use a slightly smaller diameter than the coil, slide it inside, and then "expand" it to fit with a few drops of juice.
What I don't understand is how exactly you make the wick from bandage gauze, do I just unroll the bandage, and roll it crudely in a small tube, as if it was SS mesh?
I'm sure theres alternatives (bamboo, or that brown rope used to tie food up for oven cooking, pretty sure thats cotton too?), but the 100% cotton bandages are probably the easiest/"safest", approach, also to come across for everyone.
Taco coil looks pretty good too, thanks nicotime
That was just an example...normally you fill the coil completely with wick. I would have had another strand on top of that one for use.
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Butane torch hits ~1400 C; anything organic is gone at ~400 to 500 C
LOVE the taco coil nico!!
My man, this is VERY cool! Thank you for sharing, can't wait to try it.
I need to figure out how to take a close up picture. My iphone seems to have limits.
I ran the cotton wick through the ringer over the past 24 hours, wired at 2.4 ohms on a fluxomizer and vaped on my puck with fresh batteries X 2. Ran 4 mls through it. I want to show you guys and gals the wick/coil assembly. Its curiously clean looking except for the coil being darker. Looks pristine compared to what the same regimen would do to my silica wick/coil assemblies. Weird.
I need to figure out how to take a close up picture. My iphone seems to have limits.
I ran the cotton wick through the ringer over the past 24 hours, wired at 2.4 ohms on a fluxomizer and vaped on my puck with fresh batteries X 2. Ran 4 mls through it. I want to show you guys and gals the wick/coil assembly. Its curiously clean looking except for the coil being darker. Looks pristine compared to what the same regimen would do to my silica wick/coil assemblies. Weird.
Since you guys using cotton will be changing wicks a lot due to its inherent filtering effect gumming it up...you may want to use a "taco" type coil that I used to use on my CE2's...much easier to change. Have fun!
I am an HVAC tech and have inhaled more silica fibers in 1 year than could ever be inhaled from an atty. I am worried I have already inhaled more than needed to harm me if it turns out to be a carcinogen. Most all of you with central air conditioning have fiberglass duct work so if you are really worried you might want to look into replacing it with metal.
I see a lot of talk about natural being better, I disagree. Just because it is natural doesn't mean it is safe. Asbestos is natural and we know it isn't safe at all.
I see a lot of talk about natural being better, I disagree. Just because it is natural doesn't mean it is safe. Asbestos is natural and we know it isn't safe at all.
Wow that's pretty intense nicotime!
Thanks for sharing and great pics! I thought it was a lamp assembly before realizing that the pics were zoomed.
Awesome stuff!
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You make some good points here - especially regarding the asbestos. I think that we can all agree that more advanced (and unbiased) research on this topic would be greatly beneficial to the community. In the meantime our speculations will be just that and it is up to us both individually and collectively to continue to work towards maintaining a safe and enjoyable alternative to what we know to be a very harmful activity.
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You make an excellent point. In fact, silica fiber inhaled in minute amounts likely have no health hazard. There are many times more inorganic particles in the very air we breath, many that are surely bad for our health. Brake dust, car exhaust, tire rubber, and all manner of minerals suspended as dust etc.
But, it would be a drag to find out in twenty years we should have just kept on smoking
Personally, I'm more interested in materials other than silica for their wicking properties.
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But, it would be a drag to find out in twenty years we should have just kept on smoking
Personally, I'm more interested in materials other than silica for their wicking properties.
Agreed.
Ambientech made a good point about asbestos being a natural material but note that silica is man-made mineral fiber designed to mimic the properties of asbestos.
IDK it may be harmless but I'm personally not comfortable with heating and inhaling it all day every day.
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Another thing here concerning safety/health, is we also have to consider that while asbestos is naturally occurring, it's not organic as in biodegradable. Cotton, Bamboo, etc, is biodegradable, silica is not. If the body doesn't expel it, it stays.
Who knows, maybe this is the discussion that prompts one of the vendors to carry a line of "organic" CE carto's. Since lifespan will be reduced due to the inability to dry burn, perhaps a cheap easily replaceable coil assembly would be a hot item.
Something like this perhaps?
Something like this perhaps?
Who knows, maybe this is the discussion that prompts one of the vendors to carry a line of "organic" CE carto's. Since lifespan will be reduced due to the inability to dry burn, perhaps a cheap easily replaceable coil assembly would be a hot item.
Something like this perhaps?
Great idea! Organic carto options would be awesome!
Yep that new vivi coil assembly looks awesome! I'm still on the fence about ordering however - there's a lot of sili things going on with that and no doubt there's a silicon plug underneath the coil as well. Replacing the wick is a no brainer but if I can find some suitable materials to replace all that other stuff then I could see it being a great thing - super easy to recoil and rewick and would last a long time...
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