Wick materials. Safe vs dangerous.

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LucentShadow

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Thanks everyone. I ordered some of the Aunt Lydia's to try in the Penelope. Couple more questions.

Is the general consensus that it performs better when braided or if the strands are left loose?

Are most of you boiling it before use?

I use mine loose. I haven't tried braiding it, as it seems like the ends would have to be tied to make it stay that way, and I don't really think that it would improve it. In my opinion, it wicks better than cotton when it's just several parallel strands.

I've tried several builds between 5-10 strands of the #10 size, and I'm liking around 8 strands the best, though I see that some like 12 strands. In my experience, making a fatter wick is much like upping the nicotine strength of the liquid, or turning up the voltage, delivering more nicotine (and TH) per hit, as long as your coil can effectively deal with the extra liquid.

I have not boiled mine, and have not suffered for it in any detectable way, but it would probably be a good idea to boil it.
 

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Suck it up, happens to all of us :laugh:...oh ya, I want you as my doctor..."Man! this poor guy's really sick, I should....ah screw it, I suck at doctoring this week, I'm outta here..."

LOL

But I don't give up so easily when someone else's .... is on the line :)

thanks for the support buddies, I'll figure it out. I think my coils are too tight or something to that effect, or maybe too much/too little wick vs. too much/ too little wick hole.

I've been setting up SS on genisis styles so much over the past few months that I think I've just lost my feel for the proper tension on a Cotton/Coil set up. Also these frustrations are occuring with the vivi, T2 and E1, e.g. top coils with silly silicon seals. Always seem to have random issues with those things which at least in part are related to the seal...flood...burn...flood...burn. I know its just me because people get them working great. Never had the issue with fluxomizers though, I have to say, which is why I blame the condom silicon cap design :)

everyone's getting gutted and rebuilt today, while I chain my DID to stay 'calm' ;)

what's the difference between the aunt lydias bamboo and the bamboo that supervape graced the world with ?
 

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Sorry to hear that Cyrus, I am here rotating two monster vapes. Cheescloth with batten over and candle wick wit batten over.
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BJ its not like I didn't know this, but you're no joke bro. If I ever get down to DR I'm going to hire you for a box mod building seminar lol

Then we'll go booty hunting :toast:
 

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I use mine loose. I haven't tried braiding it, as it seems like the ends would have to be tied to make it stay that way, and I don't really think that it would improve it. In my opinion, it wicks better than cotton when it's just several parallel strands.

I've tried several builds between 5-10 strands of the #10 size, and I'm liking around 8 strands the best, though I see that some like 12 strands. In my experience, making a fatter wick is much like upping the nicotine strength of the liquid, or turning up the voltage, delivering more nicotine (and TH) per hit, as long as your coil can effectively deal with the extra liquid.

I have not boiled mine, and have not suffered for it in any detectable way, but it would probably be a good idea to boil it.

Unless you have a couple extra hands, it's going to be pretty hard to braid or twist that stuff in the Penelope. What I do is run it four times around the fingers of one hand. With the ends that comes to 10 strands. Then I wrap the coil around it with a small nail, put it in the Penelope, cut the ends, put it together and vape. Best wick I've used so far.

I didn't boil it either. I was afraid I'd wind up with a tangled mess. I don't notice any problems from it.
 

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I didn't boil it either. I was afraid I'd wind up with a tangled mess. I don't notice any problems from it.

Yeah...no kidding. I stayed up all night once (too much coffee) untangling a wad. It didn't look bad and started out easy...thought it would be an hour or so...NOT! Thank goodness this is a Hobby and not a Job!
 

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For 2 years I always wrapped the coil around the wick.Getting all kinds of results. Now using the Quig-count it's just the opposite. I pull the wick through the coil. A certain size coil takes a certain size wick. I write it down so I can repeat it over and over. old dog and new tricks n all.:p

Edit. 7 days 80 mil on a cotton wickover and its still working great and the joose is still clear.
 
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need to get on my quig count

so we're counting the threads that are closer together on the cheesecloth when we do that?

If it's like the cheese cloth I got, the threads going one way are straight. The threads going the other way wiggle all over the place. Count the straight ones.
 

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i unbraid the candle wick. It's real easy with a needle. I count the threads-8 then using a needle threader I pull it through and it doubles to 16. Which is perfect for the size coil I made.
If you have gauze or cheesecloth and want to be accurate you can pull the threads apart like Evil did at the beginning of the thread. When you pull the threads through if it to loose you can back it out a little and add a couple more at a time till it's snug but not to tight. For the wickover I just roll up gauze until it fits in the slots of the CE-2.
 

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LOL

But I don't give up so easily when someone else's .... is on the line :)

thanks for the support buddies, I'll figure it out. I think my coils are too tight or something to that effect, or maybe too much/too little wick vs. too much/ too little wick hole.

I've been setting up SS on genisis styles so much over the past few months that I think I've just lost my feel for the proper tension on a Cotton/Coil set up. Also these frustrations are occuring with the vivi, T2 and E1, e.g. top coils with silly silicon seals. Always seem to have random issues with those things which at least in part are related to the seal...flood...burn...flood...burn. I know its just me because people get them working great. Never had the issue with fluxomizers though, I have to say, which is why I blame the condom silicon cap design :)

everyone's getting gutted and rebuilt today, while I chain my DID to stay 'calm' ;)

what's the difference between the aunt lydias bamboo and the bamboo that supervape graced the world with ?

I think, that wick hole must be bigger than coil's inner diameter, and wick must sit loosely in coil. So diameter sequense of whole system gives free way for liquid.

I use coil: 7 turns of 32awg kanthal 2.5mm inner diameter, best for now. Coil length about 10mm genesis-like system. The only thing I don't like is that liquid comes from one side only. So coil gunks from dry end faster,then from wet one.

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I think, that wick hole must be bigger than coil's inner diameter, and wick must sit loosely in coil. So diameter sequense of whole system gives free way for liquid.

I use coil: 7 turns of 32awg kanthal 2.5mm inner diameter, best for now. Coil length about 10mm genesis-like system. The only thing I don't like is that liquid comes from one side only. So coil gunks from dry end faster,then from wet one.

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Make your wick longer at the top, and let the extra hang down the outside of the coil like a ponytail. It will act as a reservoir for the dry end, and will make more vapor where it contacts the outside of the coil. Kinda like the "bunny balls" on horizontal wicks.
 

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so I set up the mini Vivi with 8 strands of bamboo last night and it was as close to perfect as I've gotten in a while. I used a thick sewing needle as a muzzle for my barking hands so the coil wouldn't get too tight

after vaping .5 ml or so, took a peek down at the coils and 1-2 of them were a bit too tight, and they were getting black (as well as the wick under them)

so I tried to fix it lol

didn't go so well :)

back to the lab...
 

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I think, that wick hole must be bigger than coil's inner diameter, and wick must sit loosely in coil. So diameter sequense of whole system gives free way for liquid.

I use coil: 7 turns of 32awg kanthal 2.5mm inner diameter, best for now. Coil length about 10mm genesis-like system. The only thing I don't like is that liquid comes from one side only. So coil gunks from dry end faster,then from wet one.

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this makes sense to me

problem is to pull this off on the Vivi/T2 types means you have to work with a tiny coil/wick or bore out the slots and vape mystery metal :)

if I had the tool I'd bore it out, if quigs hasn't blown a gasket yet I'm guessing I'll be ok :p
 
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