Wick materials. Safe vs dangerous.

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BJ43

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Nice body of work BJ..., just ordered some 500...you know, I've put a fair amount of thought into the whole mesh thing and you've debunked a theory of mine...I always rolled less mesh than recommended for my Lines (a habit I got from my first Frankengenesis)...in my mind I thought the center hole gave the device an easier go at relieving any sort of vacuum created by juice level drop (the 1mm breather in the Line is usually covered in cruddy juice and my Frankengenny didn't have one period)...maybe I'm over compensating.

As for your gravity flow (not wicking) statement...I assumed the same thing was happening when I found that the 170 sloppy loose wick in the GTUS worked so well...it's not acting so much as a wick as it is a porous down pipe...the only thing keeping it from making a complete leaky mess is surface tension ;)

Ofcourse this was a pure vertical wicking experiment, and we vape at many strange angles that can improve or not the process. I also started putting a air hole in my lines but could never really confirm it helped. On the kerosine burner jar I had no air hole and it burnt by wicking up all the kerosine with no problem. You are going to like the 500. You are right on, with the porous pipe theory and even on a line it will work becuase of the tilting while we vape and we confuse this with wicking.
 
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When I first read this thread, I remember thinking of several times that I had unexplained, persistent spots that would sting a bit on my tongue (near where my mouthpiece would be when I vape) and in the back of my throat. It made sense that I may have had bits of silica thread embedded, to some degree, in those spots. I should have known, as I worked in a fiberglass factory for 1.5 years in my past, and the sensation was a somewhat familiar one.

I now believe that I had one embedded in my lip for the past two months or so. I've been using mostly cotton and bamboo in that time, but I occasionally use factory-built ones, still. Shortly before that, I was using stock fluxomizers (CE2s) with the narrow rubber mouthpiece, and I eventually noticed that my habit of putting the tip just between my lips caused my upper lip to be burned a few times, presumably by hot liquid spitting out the small opening.

I adjusted my technique, to make sure that the opening was past my lip, and not too close to my tongue. Around that time, I noticed a small light spot on the bottom of my upper lip, about the size of the opening of my mouthpiece, right where my mouthpiece would rest when I vaped. At that time, I thought it was just a burn. Later, when it didn't seem to be healing, I thought there may have been scar tissue there.

Just the other day, though, that spot formed into something like a small boil, and then it occurred to me that I must have something in there. I've never had anything of the sort in such a place on my lip, before, slightly to the back of the bottom edge of my upper lip. I decided that since it was 'coming to a head', that I'd best try to rid my lip of whatever it was.

I guess the squeamish folks can skip this paragraph. :p A couple of pin ......, and some carefully positioned squeezes, netted me a very thin, approximately 8mm long extrusion semi-solid pus. I was a bit surprised at that. I did a cursory search of it, not expecting to find anything, and did not. My lip has almost returned to normal, now, about a day later.

So, I can't be sure that it was a silica shard, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me. I'm now even more wary of silica fibers.
 

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When I first read this thread, I remember thinking of several times that I had unexplained, persistent spots that would sting a bit on my tongue (near where my mouthpiece would be when I vape) and in the back of my throat. It made sense that I may have had bits of silica thread embedded, to some degree, in those spots. I should have known, as I worked in a fiberglass factory for 1.5 years in my past, and the sensation was a somewhat familiar one.

I now believe that I had one embedded in my lip for the past two months or so. I've been using mostly cotton and bamboo in that time, but I occasionally use factory-built ones, still. Shortly before that, I was using stock fluxomizers (CE2s) with the narrow rubber mouthpiece, and I eventually noticed that my habit of putting the tip just between my lips caused my upper lip to be burned a few times, presumably by hot liquid spitting out the small opening.

I adjusted my technique, to make sure that the opening was past my lip, and not too close to my tongue. Around that time, I noticed a small light spot on the bottom of my upper lip, about the size of the opening of my mouthpiece, right where my mouthpiece would rest when I vaped. At that time, I thought it was just a burn. Later, when it didn't seem to be healing, I thought there may have been scar tissue there.

Just the other day, though, that spot formed into something like a small boil, and then it occurred to me that I must have something in there. I've never had anything of the sort in such a place on my lip, before, slightly to the back of the bottom edge of my upper lip. I decided that since it was 'coming to a head', that I'd best try to rid my lip of whatever it was.

I guess the squeamish folks can skip this paragraph. :p A couple of pin ......, and some carefully positioned squeezes, netted me a very thin, approximately 8mm long extrusion semi-solid pus. I was a bit surprised at that. I did a cursory search of it, not expecting to find anything, and did not. My lip has almost returned to normal, now, about a day later.

So, I can't be sure that it was a silica shard, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me. I'm now even more wary of silica fibers.

I think I can see it there, but a bigger pic would help. :laugh:
 

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Thanks all for my Birthday wishes. Lucky to have a birthday around one of the good holiday's, I still got 4 more days of celebrating. :laugh::laugh::laugh::toast:




On another note I was reading on another forum that us cotton fan bois should try vaping a tooth pic. Although I don't see much hope in that it's nice to see the cotton message being spread around.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

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Hooked up a short fatty rolled cotton wick - SS mesh wick style - on a SmokTech rebuildable tank. Took 8-10 short puffs one right after the other, good vapor on all, warmed the drip tip/top cap up nicely :D, and the wick is perfectly fine.

I don't know about toothpicks; but I have some wooden shafted cotton swabs at work. I could give them a try. :lol:


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When I first read this thread, I remember thinking of several times that I had unexplained, persistent spots that would sting a bit on my tongue (near where my mouthpiece would be when I vape) and in the back of my throat. It made sense that I may have had bits of silica thread embedded, to some degree, in those spots. I should have known, as I worked in a fiberglass factory for 1.5 years in my past, and the sensation was a somewhat familiar one.

This is far more likely a result of droplets of PG or VG. PG and VG are hygroscopic, which means they absorb water. And they are very good at it, good enough to pull the moisture out of sensitive skin in your mouth and cause a sore or blister, which could get infected.
 

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lucent just make sure it heals. if you find it's not healing, please get it looked at. sorry, the pathologist in me likes to nag ;)

This morning, it's difficult to see where it was. I believe it's been resolved. :)

This is far more likely a result of droplets of PG or VG. PG and VG are hygroscopic, which means they absorb water. And they are very good at it, good enough to pull the moisture out of sensitive skin in your mouth and cause a sore or blister, which could get infected.

Could be, but I haven't had anything similar present since switching from stock CE2s to Vivi Novas modified with organic fiber wicks. They are pretty similar delivery devices, so that makes me lean toward blaming silica, though I can't really be sure.

Anyway, I'm still really enjoying my #10 bamboo crochet thread wicks. I like about 8 strands, most of the time, and this ball seems like it'll last forever. :D
 

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Hey guys,

The cheese cloth is working really well for me. Thanks for the recommendation. I do have another question, though. I keep seeing mention of unbleached organic bamboo crochet thread, but I'm unclear which one people are using. Could someone recommend which one to buy and where to purchase it?
 
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