Wick materials. Safe vs dangerous.

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Wait a second here, so there are cartomizers you can buy that dont use silica wicks? I am currently smoking the v2 carts until I get my first actual vaping gear here in a few days, and I am worried about the silica, does boge use silica? If someone knowledgeable could throw down some names that dont I would much appreciate it.
 

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I've never seen anything from the factory that didn't have a silica wick in the coil. They may have cotton 'diapers' around the outside of the coil to keep from burning the polyfill, but there was still a short length of silica inside of the coil.

If there are any that are silica-free, I haven't seen them. Doesn't mean that there aren't any, obviously, but I have my doubts.
 

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I've never seen anything from the factory that didn't have a silica wick in the coil. They may have cotton 'diapers' around the outside of the coil to keep from burning the polyfill, but there was still a short length of silica inside of the coil.

If there are any that are silica-free, I haven't seen them. Doesn't mean that there aren't any, obviously, but I have my doubts.

None of my DC or TC had silica wicks in the coil, main reason I went to them until I discovered SS. They did have a silica sleeve to cover the solder points and facilitate an air hole thru the cart. Here is a pic of a DC taken apart.
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So I finally broke down and order some of that famous Aunt Lydia's Bamboo thread. I have a couple questions though. I'm currently using it in a ViVi Nova and was previously using cheese cloth. I just got done boiling and building two heads. The first head I used three threads and after putting it together it looked too little. The second one I used four threads and it seems to fill nicely, no visible area around the wick where flooding my be an issue.

I vaped on the three threader for about 20 minutes and flavor was spot on, vapor production wasn't as much as the cotton but I'm having a hard time going above 1.6 ohms, 6 wraps. I took it out and looked and within 20 minutes the wick started turning that orangish/yellowish color.

I vaped on the four threader and about the same performance but the flavor was just a little off.

The two questions I have is what do you guys consider a burnt wick, black or that orange/yellow color?

The second question is do you guys boil this stuff and is it really necessary?

I'll continue to vape on it and see where it goes. Something I noticed though is laying out the heads that I used on a paper towel, it took literally about 3-5 minutes and it was bone dry. Weird.
 

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So I finally broke down and order some of that famous Aunt Lydia's Bamboo thread. I have a couple questions though. I'm currently using it in a ViVi Nova and was previously using cheese cloth. I just got done boiling and building two heads. The first head I used three threads and after putting it together it looked too little. The second one I used four threads and it seems to fill nicely, no visible area around the wick where flooding my be an issue.

I vaped on the three threader for about 20 minutes and flavor was spot on, vapor production wasn't as much as the cotton but I'm having a hard time going above 1.6 ohms, 6 wraps. I took it out and looked and within 20 minutes the wick started turning that orangish/yellowish color.

I vaped on the four threader and about the same performance but the flavor was just a little off.

The two questions I have is what do you guys consider a burnt wick, black or that orange/yellow color?

The second question is do you guys boil this stuff and is it really necessary?

I'll continue to vape on it and see where it goes. Something I noticed though is laying out the heads that I used on a paper towel, it took literally about 3-5 minutes and it was bone dry. Weird.

I'm running 6 strands through the coil and down into my juice in my Vivi Nova and another 4 strands just laying on top of the coil and cut so they are just sticking out of the sides of the head, vapes mightily...you'll get the orangish/yellowish color pretty quick but then stays that way for a while, just sort of an initial burn in...as for boiling it, yup...it tastes and wick better after a boil...
 

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I tried it all but never been satisfied as with silica wick...so I laid hands on braided wick and just to be sure,I tie lil knots on the ends of the tails,so no possible fraying now.

Wicks like nothing I tried.

Tying the ends? Silica can fray anywhere but mostly around the coil if it gets hot and dry, The wick that is in the juice is no problem with fraying. If you want to be real safe put a little filter in the mouthpiece. A small piece of an analog filter works great.
 

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None of my DC or TC had silica wicks in the coil, main reason I went to them until I discovered SS. They did have a silica sleeve to cover the solder points and facilitate an air hole thru the cart. Here is a pic of a DC taken apart.
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That's quite interesting. Thanks for the pic. Was there nothing inside of the coil, or some cotton?

It looks as if they atomize the liquid off of the diaper on the outside of the coil, which is strange.
 

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That's quite interesting. Thanks for the pic. Was there nothing inside of the coil, or some cotton?

It looks as if they atomize the liquid off of the diaper on the outside of the coil, which is strange.

There is a whole thread on this, I even did lab tests on the burnt cotton diaper, must have torn apart over 100 DCs. Yes they burn the juice off the diaper and if a little dry they burn the diaper. There is nothing in the coils,
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...us-510-kr808-4081-etc-filler-type-cartos.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...81-etc-filler-type-cartos-790.html#post301709
 
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I'm running 6 strands through the coil and down into my juice in my Vivi Nova and another 4 strands just laying on top of the coil and cut so they are just sticking out of the sides of the head, vapes mightily...you'll get the orangish/yellowish color pretty quick but then stays that way for a while, just sort of an initial burn in...as for boiling it, yup...it tastes and wick better after a boil...

Thanks so much for giving me setup ideas. Yea I think I've made 4 heads in the past hour trial and error but I am running into flooding issues so I guess I need to up it from 4 strands. I'll give your setup a go around tonight and let you know. Enjoy watching your youtube videos and shortly will be stepping up to SS mesh with a DID clone.
 
Wait a second here, so there are cartomizers you can buy that dont use silica wicks? I am currently smoking the v2 carts until I get my first actual vaping gear here in a few days, and I am worried about the silica, does boge use silica? If someone knowledgeable could throw down some names that dont I would much appreciate it.

V2 have new cartomizers which will be available on the 17th cheek them out V2 LiquiMax Blanks (3-Pack) - V2 Cigs

I tried to ask them what they are made of but guess the one whom I chat whit didn't understood and he kept on saying they use only polyfil
 

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There is a whole thread on this, I even did lab tests on the burnt cotton diaper, must have torn apart over 100 DCs. Yes they burn the juice off the diaper and if a little dry they burn the diaper. There is nothing in the coils,
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...us-510-kr808-4081-etc-filler-type-cartos.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...81-etc-filler-type-cartos-790.html#post301709

Ah, I thought that pic looked vaguely familiar. I'd forgotten about that thread. That was part of the reason that I've never bought a DC carto. That, and the fact that I quickly realized that I could taste the polyester filler in most of the SC cartos that I bought. I found CE2s shortly after.

That kind of makes me want to try a bigger diameter coil, running vertically, wrapped in cotton, in a vivi nova head. Seems like it'd work, though it also seems like it could be problematic with shorts and flooding. I'll have to give that some thought sometime when I'm not this tired. :closedeyes:
 

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A 3.1 ohm on a vivi nova 32g with 6 strands thru and 3 over of Lydia's at 6 volts is a monster vaper. The flavor is very good but there is a subtle perfume taste or a sweetness I hadn't tasted with other wicks. This coil was rolled on a 3mm screw to be able to get all that wire in there and I pulled the thread thru after testing it dry.
 

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Bored out ceramic cup on a fluxomizer, hot rodded with 30awg kanthal and silver wire at 2.0 ohms, something like 10 strands of bamboo, I lost count lol

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This is after 2 mls run on a V4L auto (4.2 volts off the charger)

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I really miss my autos, this set up may have me reaching for them a little more. Anyone got a light?


(click please)


 

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A 3.1 ohm on a vivi nova 32g with 6 strands thru and 3 over of Lydia's at 6 volts is a monster vaper. The flavor is very good but there is a subtle perfume taste or a sweetness I hadn't tasted with other wicks. This coil was rolled on a 3mm screw to be able to get all that wire in there and I pulled the thread thru after testing it dry.

Did you boil the the thread first? I boil for 20 minutes (both cotton and bamboo) before using.

I find that the bamboo ends up having a very slight woodier taste as opposed to the cotton which is just very clean and tasteless.

That slight woodiness is very good btw with certain flavors and can add a bit of TH.
 

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Bored out ceramic cup on a fluxomizer, hot rodded with 30awg kanthal and silver wire at 2.0 ohms, something like 10 strands of bamboo, I lost count lol



This is after 2 mls run on a V4L auto (4.2 volts off the charger)


I really miss my autos, this set up may have me reaching for them a little more. Anyone got a light?


(click please)

I definitely saw the light! Looks like the LIE on a very foggy morning!
 
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