Looking at using some not yet spoken of materials.
Opinions on Silk? Seems to be potentially very good for wicking.
Opinions on Silk? Seems to be potentially very good for wicking.
Wicking with....
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I've never seen anything about it, but I guess it could work, if it was "spun". Not sure how absorbent it is, though.
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Just peaked my interest as the heat tolerance is far higher than cotton, organic, not terribly expensive, and can be had undyed 100% natural silk in 2,3,4 etc mm sizes as a "rope".
Going to order some and give it a shot
Going to order some and give it a shot
I would have thought that meant the same thing?
I like the idea of more heat resistance. Even though I've switched to organic cotton because the taste is so good, I do have to re-wick about every 30 hrs or so, due to burnt taste. As good as organic cotton is, it's unfortunately true that cotton scorches very easily, and once scorched, hangs on to that burnt taste and has to be replaced. I've even considered some of the ekowool that has a cotton core; the cotton core would provide good taste, while the silica casing prevented scorching -- at least that is my *presumption* -- I don't really know for sure.
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DO NOT USE SILK !!!!! Silk is highly toxic if it even scorches. It releases cyanide faster than most materials. Silk has a very low tolerance to heat and will burn faster than cotton.
Sorry, if I came off as an alarmist, but I got panicked just thinking about it. Ramie on the other hand is one of more resilient fibers, its not as clean tasting and will take a bit longer for the taste to clear, but its one of the most burn resistant.
Sorry, if I came off as an alarmist, but I got panicked just thinking about it. Ramie on the other hand is one of more resilient fibers, its not as clean tasting and will take a bit longer for the taste to clear, but its one of the most burn resistant.
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Please read this:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/562106-ecf-sub-ohm-advisory.html
Probably not a wise idea to look for ways to get things Hotter.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/562106-ecf-sub-ohm-advisory.html
Probably not a wise idea to look for ways to get things Hotter.
interesting... how does a worm produce cyanide in its silk?? unless cyanide is a needed material for processing silk and it retains the cyanide...
If you dont believe me, google it. Cyanide is a natural poison found in plants, foods, seeds and most commonly derived from apple seeds. Just because something is natural or organic is it not harmful.
This is why I asked before I used it. Thanks anavidfan Odd that it has a lower heat tolerance, everything I can find says silk tolerates heat better than cotton. I guess what I have found refers to flame temperature or autoignition temperature rather than when the material starts to break down.
Odd that it has a lower heat tolerance, everything I can find says silk tolerates heat better than cotton. I guess what I have found refers to flame temperature or autoignition temperature rather than when the material starts to break down.
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If you dont believe me, google it. Cyanide is a natural poison found in plants, foods, seeds and most commonly derived from apple seeds. Just because something is natural or organic is it not harmful.
That's true; in fact the best source of cyanide is apricot pits. They say it smells like bitter almonds. It's also the toxin, the raw material from the apricot pits, that is used in mexico to treat cancer... can't remember the name of it, but it's what Steve McQueen took, near the end of his life, when all other hope was gone. Guess you'll try anything at that point. But even the stuff they use in the US to fight cancer is pretty toxic, seems to be kind of a race, which kills you faster, the cancer or the chemo.
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Ok where do you get this from?
This is what I get. from here.
Fabric Mart :: Burn Test Chart
Silk
Is a protein fiber which burns slowly and curls away from the flame. It leaves a dark bead which can be easily crushed. It is self-extinguishing and leaves ash that is a dark, gritty, fine powder. It smells like burned hair or charred meat. It gives out little or no smoke and the fume has no hazard.
What I find interesting is the below, it mentions that during combustion it gives of cyanide. We don't combust our wicks, otherwise cotton would fall in the extremely harmful category also. The problem of course, is that Cyanide can be fatal in low doses, so that dry hit that occasionally happens.... yeah...
http://www.patient.co.uk/doctor/inhalation-injury
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CO also binds to myocardial myoglobin and reduces the contractility of the heart. Combustion of plastics, polyurethane, wool, silk, nylon, nitriles, rubber and paper products can all lead to cyanide production. Only 20-40% of the population carry the gene needed to smell hydrogen cyanide. It has an almond-like odour. It is 20 times as toxic as CO and can cause immediate respiratory arrest.[7]
http://www.patient.co.uk/doctor/inhalation-injury
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CO also binds to myocardial myoglobin and reduces the contractility of the heart. Combustion of plastics, polyurethane, wool, silk, nylon, nitriles, rubber and paper products can all lead to cyanide production. Only 20-40% of the population carry the gene needed to smell hydrogen cyanide. It has an almond-like odour. It is 20 times as toxic as CO and can cause immediate respiratory arrest.[7]
This is true. When some natural fibers such as wool or silk combust they give off HCN, or hydrogen cyanide.
Plastics and synthetic fibers that have been produced with nitriles do as well.
It is also found in the seeds and pits of some fruits and raw nuts, they contain Amygdalin, also known as vitamin B-17.
The 2 most common fruits it is found in are apricots and papayas.
Used in the application of an APV, silk wouldn't combust, nor would it burn when saturated with e-liquid.
Is it safe to use? Probably, I don't really know.
Would I personally use it? No.
YMMV.
Plastics and synthetic fibers that have been produced with nitriles do as well.
It is also found in the seeds and pits of some fruits and raw nuts, they contain Amygdalin, also known as vitamin B-17.
The 2 most common fruits it is found in are apricots and papayas.
Used in the application of an APV, silk wouldn't combust, nor would it burn when saturated with e-liquid.
Is it safe to use? Probably, I don't really know.
Would I personally use it? No.
YMMV.
What is desirable is something of low density.
The reason that fluffy cotton works so well is the low density.
Once you twist the cotton into a compressed fabric like a clothlike material, it just has the same absorbency as clothlike stuff.
But fluffy uncompresses cotton is more like sponge in nature: lots of air spaces inside it so that it absorbs 10x+ its own weight in water
The reason that fluffy cotton works so well is the low density.
Once you twist the cotton into a compressed fabric like a clothlike material, it just has the same absorbency as clothlike stuff.
But fluffy uncompresses cotton is more like sponge in nature: lots of air spaces inside it so that it absorbs 10x+ its own weight in water
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