Will Mods Ever Smaller And More Powerful? Like What Happened to Cell Phones Over The Past 30 Years?

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guyvelella

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It sucks to carry around a big bulky mod weighing a pound and a half just to get the vapor power needed. Remember how big cell phones were in the 80s? Now you could get a cell phone cheaper, smaller, more powerful and holds thousands of times more data. Do you see the same happening with mods? In a few years in the future, will there be a mod available that could be vaped at 250 watts, weighs less than 5 ounces and could fit in your pocket?
 

Norrin

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It all has to do with battery power so no you can't get 250W in a small light device, can't see that happening in the near future if ever. Phones were only big for a year or two then they started using different types of batteries and the got small. They might last a bit longer but the size hasn't changed much in the last 20 years. You could easily make a high powered mod small and light using a Lipo battery with a short life but is that any good? you just have to decide what you want and then compromise to the best option. I just want it to last all day and give maybe 35W or there about so a dual 18650 box in my pocket is fine, to go smaller I would have to drop the time or power so I'm happy with what I have.
 

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Mods ARE getting smaller - for people that want small.
I think the real breakthroughs need to be in "juice delivery".
Right now, a lot of people who "want more" from their vape need to be pretty technical - wrapping coils, testing resistance, wicking - that's more fiddling than a LOT of people are willing to do. If it was more "plug and play" more people would start or stick with it.
Always going to be others who ENJOY trying new gear, and experimenting, etc...I'm just saying that the "power"/mod part of the equation HAS gotten more reliable, compact, and user-friendly.

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The only way to get smaller is for battery technology to improve, which is not likely for an application like this.

That is not the whole story.

Better design plays a major role as well. Both the design of the electronics in regulated mods and the design of the mod itself being electronic or mechanical.

For the longest time, the provari mini was the smallest 18350 electronic mod because of better design.
 

Wild Card

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Better design plays a major role as well. Both the design of the electronics in regulated mods and the design of the mod itself being electronic or mechanical.

Agreed, but we're splitting hairs here.

There are only 2 basic form factors: tube and box, with the most limiting component being the power source. The eLeaf iStick is one of the (if not the) smallest box mods on the market, and it's about the size of a pack of analogs. Comfort in hand is subjective to the individual user, but the likelihood of a mod getting much smaller probably isn't going to happen without switching to LiPo power.
 
The mod was just made by a friend of the owner. The shop is called Vape Culture. The owner is heading down to Miami right now for the convention. The box is covered in flames if you want to see it and check out the set up. I think they will have an atty for it as well which has a 22ga clappton coil build on it which hits like a freaking champ and I think is at .14ohm.
 

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as far as that power, its already here. The vape shop I go to has a box mod thats able to push 300w with duel 26650 batteries and is able to handle a build down to a .1ohm. Now as to size, I'm sure that part will come in time

I remember when this video use to be a joke...... And now, we are basicaly there. Call me old school, I think that wattage piss contest is ridiculous

 

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I remember when this video use to be a joke...... And now, we are basicaly there. Call me old school, I think that wattage piss contest is ridiculous

I watched a vid earlier today of some guy reviewing a 260w mod. He fired it up with the coil exposed, and the wick caught on fire. Then he takes a hit at the full 260w and nearly coughs up a lung. Dials it back to 30w and hacks it up again. Then he explains that he's only comfortable around 10w. So why is he reviewing a 260w mod? LOL!
 

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Yeah 400W I want.....no way I have tried about 100W and back down to my comfort level, all these high powered stuff around but until recently most vapers are happy sub 20W. These new tanks coming out with 0.5 ohm coils might make a little difference as they work best around 35W or so they say, but still you only have a small percentage of people really pushing for huge power. DNA 40 users rave about the great vaping with temp control (or some who have got a decent coil built do anyway) and I think that most people just want simple good vaping and once someone perfects that that will be the norm, but you will still have power hungry people just like you have ICE maniacs with 10 times the audio gear to what the cars worth, like you can really tell the difference once you pass a certain point.
 

Norrin

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I'm saving a bit each payday for when the first nuclear powered mod hits the market! Nothing wrong with a little mushroom cloud chasing! :lol:
Well you could actually get your wish as it looks like this might be possible soon. Long-lasting, water-based nuclear battery developed I don't know if I want to hold a nuclear device in my hand or even worse put it in my pocket, but it might be what we are doing soon.
 

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My LG G3 phone already has a flat pack li-ion LiCoO2 3000mah battery. Tubular batteries dictate the dimensions of current mods. There's always room for change and modification. Flat pack batteries would be easier to heat sink to the case than round batteries, IMO. The drawback is that those batteries can't withstand a drain any higher than their rate MAH. You can't run them at 10A or 20A drain like LiMn lMR batts.

Eventually, new battery technologies will change the looks of many of the things we use today.
 
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