Will the e-cigs be the cigs of the future?

[mothakaf]

Will the e-cigs be the cigs of the future?

 

[e-pipeman]

I think that, for me at least, they are the vape of the present. The future of e-cigs depends on many things, not the least of which is the degree of government support they will in due course receive.

 

[spike]

How about the I-Inhale from Smokejuice for a mere £140? Nobody is going to mistake this for anything remotely resembling a cigarette.

 

[LaceyUnderall]

With the demonizing of tobacco and worse, the demonizing of it's users, people will flock to the e-cig.

What we need to push for is getting nicotine recognized as a substance no different than caffeine.

They are already looking at taxing sodas sold in schools to keep kids from drinking them and more and more doctors are coming out saying that caffeine is not good for kids. Look at the rates of increase in the attention deficit disorders.

A friends daughter was having horrible migrane headaches at the age of 8. After a catscan revealed she did not have a tumor and they looked into her diet, the doctor summed it up that 3 mountain dews per day is too much for an adult, let alone a child. Once they removed the caffeine from her diet, her headaches were gone within two weeks. With the "nanny states" that we all seem to be living in, it will not be a surprise that caffeine could become an 18 and over thing. We have already seen it with energy drinks in many states.

I think the e-cig has a ton of promise and I hope to god now that I am 100% e-cig, it is not taken away from me.

 

[SpaceCadet]

What we need to push for is getting nicotine recognized as a substance no different than caffeine.

That's the whole thing that gets me, cars emit far more crap than e-cigs but they're somehow OK! You take in more carcinogens walking around just about anywhere than you'd get from an e-cig. For heaven's sake

 

[TribbleTrouble]

What we need to push for is getting nicotine recognized as a substance no different than caffeine.

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I wonder if anyone has died from a Caffeine OD. I know that Nicotine has that real potential.

 

[LaceyUnderall]

What we need to push for is getting nicotine recognized as a substance no different than caffeine.

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I wonder if anyone has died from a Caffeine OD. I know that Nicotine has that real potential.

I read an interesting post today, written from the anti-smoking perspective, that basically states this attempt to link caffeine and nicotine as the same type of substances is ridiculous. I will have to do more reading from a different perspective. Nicotine 166 times more deadly than caffeine? - as you can see this guy is all about just quitting cold turkey. (and I bet he drinks a ****load of coffee and/or soda)

According to this post though, it is far easier to overdose on nicotine than caffeine. But I still argue that it isn't necessarily about overdosing. You can't overdose on weed, but it is illegal (supposedly) because of what it does to the body. I think caffeine does some things to the body and mind, especially the bodies and minds of children.

Recently, and I hate to post this without remembering where I found it, there was a school system here in the US that couldn't figure out why the students were all suffering from attention deficit disorders. All of them. Until they discovered that a huge percentage were stopping at the 7/11 to purchase a red-bull for breakfast. Sodas are being eliminated left and right from school vending machines. It makes you wonder how many of the health problems are related to substances like caffeine. I am yet to find a study against smoking that mentions the word caffeine anywhere - How much caffeine does said smoker or non-smoker drink per day? Does this effect the results of a smoking affects study?

I see THC, caffeine, alcohol, and nicotine all in the same category. Harmless to some and harmful to others. It is all about moderation.

I am yet to run into an anti-nicotine perspective who does not drink soda or coffee.

 

[TribbleTrouble]

I am sick of THE MAN telling me what I can & cannot do to myself. Isn't there enough violent crime out there that needs the authorities attention? For all of the poking fun that people do about countries like the Neatherlands where people can do what they want to themselves without being labeled a criminal, this country should look at them to see just how normal things can be while still allowing their people to just be free. This country use to be that way, but the narcissism of past leadership has ruined that completely!

 

[smokum]

I find it very hard to believe that you can overdose on nicotine unless by accident of physical exposure.

Meaning, through a large absorbtion by means of a spill or mishandling, or through ingestion.

Our bodies have their own "warning mechanisms" that will create an ill feeling if we are getting too much of anything. At the first sign of getting "qweezy" or "dizzy" its a warning from our sensors to our brain that our bodies are getting something either in excess of what our organs will allow or tollerate, making us stop taking whatever it is that is causing it.

Thats my view anyway. And regarding the OP, YES it is the future as more and more people decide for themselves to deter away from a know killer and into a new available alternative that, so far, has shown it offers less of a health risk in comparison to whats already "known" is the result of analog use.

VapeOn,
Greg

 

[Jammi98]

What we need to push for is getting nicotine recognized as a substance no different than caffeine.

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I wonder if anyone has died from a Caffeine OD. I know that Nicotine has that real potential.

Don't even get me started on how many people alcohol kills every year (and hey, in most cases it's not even a "get sick when you're old" thing, it can happen right here and now when you drink and drive), yet it is still allowed to be advertised everywhere. Not that I support a ban on alcohol advertising, it just seems incredibly hypocritical that tobacco ads are banned and alcohol ads aren't.

I view nicotine as more harmful than caffeine (and this from someone who cannot use caffeine - decaf coffee and soda for me, thanks), but MUCH less harmful than alcohol. Kids ingesting any "substance" affects them worse than adults due to lower body weight, higher metabolisms and not fully developed organs so I don't really consider that as a valid argument to ban (or not ban) anything.

 

[UncleMidriff]

Caffeine can kill you too. What keeps that from happening, though, is that in its most common forms, your body processes and eliminates it faster than you could consume enough to kill you. Take an entire box of Vivarin, though, and you'll be in a world of hurt, or worse.

I'm a programmer, which classifies me as a geek. Geeks love caffeine. ThinkGeek.com has an entire section devoted to caffeine, where you can buy caffeinated candy, drinks, and even soap. They use to have a caffeinated syrup, called Sky Rocket, that contained 100 mg of caffeine per ounce. In college, one of my friends decided to start drinking this stuff straight. Before long, he was dizzy, couldn't see straight, and incoherent. Researching it awhile later, and figuring out how much caffeine he'd actually consumed during the binge, he realized he had quickly consumed very near a lethal dosage.

So yeah, caffeine isn't a friendly chemical either, when used irresponsibly.

 

[Chris From Cali]

Thinkgeek.com is my heaven, I can't even think of how many things I've ordered from there!

But again anything out of moderation can lead to health issues. I'm sure if the government can figure out a way to add a "sin tax" to E-Smokes they'll be here to stay. I'm sure Esmoking will pass easily in Canada last time I checked it was legal to smoke weed up there. As for California this is a pretty lax state when it comes to smoking anything.