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realize 100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping before recharge
Spinner- 1300 mah
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/1300revolver.htm
Twist- depending on the size may be slightly cheaper or more expensive.
https://www.canvape.com/Genuine-Joyetech-eGo-C-Twist-p/twist.htm
Considering these batteries are good for 250- 300 recharges it really only works out to pennies per day. Also if using the Mini Vivi Nova operating costs in regards to a delivery device are going to be quite low. Canvape selling the Mini Vivi Nova for $6.00- most places in the U.S. are selling for about $10. Realize also you get 3 heads with that Vivi. For the Spinner/ Twist 2.4 ohms offers the widest options cuz you can dial the voltage up and down- 1,8 ohms good for lower voltage/ warmer vape.

Information overload Vapoor, but there's no such thing as too much info lol.
It seems as though the Spinner comes out on top, so perhaps 2 of those, and i'll get a mt3 kanger clearomizer, vision vivi mini as well as the regular mini nova, and a 510 atomizer. I'll still go with the ego charger.

Here's a review by highly regarded VaporChase- You'll see him hangin' out here a lot- note the 1300 Spinner is shorter than the 1000 Twist

I do like the look of it, think we have a winner!

Oh yeah, I forgot to add to my earlier posts... Welcome to your new addiction ;)

Thanks Mr.Bungle! :)

I would also add a 510 atomizer to test new juices- very easy to clean if juice is horrible". There's the Mini Vivi Nova 2.0 ml. Realize "some" acidic juices will damage the plastic tank. You can also buy a metal tube for the Vivi Tank. For acidic juices I use cartomizers.
Vivi Nova- a plastic or metal tank with a wick and element. Contains NO stuffing. The rebuildable clearos come with heads (coil+ wick) that can be cheaply ($1.50) and easily (10 secs) replaced. When the head burns out simply unscrew the old head out and screw in new head- takes 10 secs. My Vivi Nova heads are lasting about 8 weeks BUT I wash the heads every few days. I've found the Vivi Nova to give the best draw. The only reason I change my heads is because the wick becomes shredded- it still fires great. The Mini Vivi Nova is slim and fits perfectly on the Twist or Spinner BUT you may want to buy a sleeve to cover the threads between the battery and the tank.

With the Sleeve
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Without Sleeve
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Now, with a 510 atomizer, I have to use a cartridge with it correct? So I have to buy some of those in addition to the kanger and vivi as those are wick/coil?
I'm liking the sleeve, just searching canvape now for some.

Also in regards to plastic tanks there's Kanger ProTank about to be released- glass so acidic juices= no damage- expensive and will first wait for user feedback before I consider buying. I would imagine other companies will follow suit:
kanger protank - Kangertech ecig shop - Kangertech



Excellent find, I'd feel better with a glass tank regardless.
 

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Now, with a 510 atomizer, I have to use a cartridge with it correct? So I have to buy some of those in addition to the kanger and vivi as those are wick/coil?
I'm liking the sleeve, just searching canvape now for some.
Tomorrow a.m. I'll put together a list for you. When testing new juices many will taste horrible- using a tank (MT3 or Vivi Nova) you'd have to wash everything- a PITA. With an atomizer (metal tube with element inside) you just drip 2-3 drops and if you likey fill a tank up with it. If the taste is horrible just burn the excess off the atomizer. Atomizer is from the very first "tank" system- atomizer+ cartridge- and is prone to leakage. Much better delivery systems such as cartomizers, clearos and tanks available now.
Will also include info re: cartomizer+ glass tank- another type of delivery system.
 

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Tomorrow a.m. I'll put together a list for you. When testing new juices many will taste horrible- using a tank (MT3 or Vivi Nova) you'd have to wash everything- a PITA. With an atomizer (metal tube with element inside) you just drip 2-3 drops and if you likey fill a tank up with it. If the taste is horrible just burn the excess off the atomizer. Atomizer is from the very first "tank" system- atomizer+ cartridge- and is prone to leakage. Much better delivery systems such as cartomizers, clearos and tanks available now.
Will also include info re: cartomizer+ glass tank- another type of delivery system.

Excellent! I can't wait to hear back. I have a feeling my ProSmoke is coming in tomorrow, but I have a feeling it will be shipped back after reviewing it, i'm not sure, lol.

I see your point, much easier to try a few drips on an atomizer than to fill/clean tanks. In my first post I had mentioned boge cartomizers, sufficient for testing? Or is a 510 atty/catridge better?
 

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1300 mah Spinner Battery
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/1300revolver.htm
USB Charger
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/egousbr.htm
Wall Adapter
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/joyea-c.htm
Sleeve/ Cone for Mini Vivi Nova 2.0 ml Tank (#1)
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/shortytc.htm
510 Atomizer
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/510sra.htm
Drip Tip for 510 atomizer
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/ssft.htm
Mini Vivi Nova 2.0 ml Tank- Kit includes 3 heads
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/vivi2.0.htm
Realize the Vivi Nova 3.5 is really meant for larger Mods/ PVs- they look top heavy on the Spinner.
Vivi Nova 3.5 ml Tank- Kit includes 3 heads
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/vivikit.htm
If wanting metal tube for acidic juices in the Mini Vivi Nova 2.0 or 3.5 ml…
Metal Tube for Mini Vivi Nova 2.0 ml Tank
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/minimetal.htm
or
Metal Tube for Vivi Nova 3.5 ml Tank
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/vivimetal3.5.htm

Here's the 1300 Spinner with the Mini Vivi Nova 2.0 ml

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I see your point, much easier to try a few drips on an atomizer than to fill/clean tanks. In my first post I had mentioned boge cartomizers, sufficient for testing? Or is a 510 atty/catridge better?

Atomizer/ Atty- an element in a metal container with no filler/ stuffing on to which 3-4 drops of juice is dripped- usually used for testing new juices because Attys are easy to clean. There are some diehard Atty users because it’s the best vape possible but very time consuming. ONLY the atty is used and NOT the cartridge.

Cartridge/ Cart- a container with sponge (filled with juice) that is used with the Atty- juice drips on to Atty from filled cart and is vaporized- older outdated first “tank” system and prone to leaks unless the user is willing to buy extra seals and “fiddle” with them.
You don't want to buy the cartridge

Cartomizer/ Carto- metal tube with stuffing and element. Holds anywhere form 1- 4 ml of juice. Carto is fully saturated and must be occasionally refilled when juice runs out.

Carto+Tank- a Carto with a hole punched in it. Carto is than placed in a glass, metal or plastic tank which is filled with juice- juice saturates Carto by way of hole in Carto. My Cartos with a tank last, before tight draw occurs:
light juices- 80-90 ml. dark juices- 50-60 ml....learning curve involved.

Problem with testing in a cartomizer is if the juice is funky the filler is soaked with it. Can be cleaned by a hassle and time consuming.
 

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Excellent! I can't wait to hear back. I have a feeling my ProSmoke is coming in tomorrow, but I have a feeling it will be shipped back after reviewing it, i'm not sure, lol.
Yes they have a 30 day warranty but...
"The 30 Guarantee is only applicable to purchases that include complete Starter Kits and not individual component orders, disposable e-cigarettes or distributor orders. We will assess additional charges for damaged product, marked or stickered product, missing packaging or similar, based on the discretion of our Returns Department (equal to but no great than the cost of the goods in our on-line store)."
 

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That's absolutely incredible Vapoor, everything I need. I really love the look of the 1300 spinner with the 2ml mini vivi and the sleeve. I thought that 1300 would be way too big, but I seen in a video that it's actually shorter than the 1000 twist that I was going to eventually upgrade to, but a bit chunkier, plus the 1300 should be able to last me all day.

The mini vivi looks perfect! I also seen a t3 metal kanger w/ window, is that also for larger vaporizers and look top heavy? it is a 3ml

As for the wall adapter, I have a million laying around from old cells and such, I believe 5v is what i need.

I'm getting way too excited about this but that setup is I think exactly what I am looking for, long battery life, and not a million cartridges. You might've just saved a long term smoker vapoor! :)
 

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Atomizer/ Atty- an element in a metal container with no filler/ stuffing on to which 3-4 drops of juice is dripped- usually used for testing new juices because Attys are easy to clean. There are some diehard Atty users because it’s the best vape possible but very time consuming. ONLY the atty is used and NOT the cartridge.

Cartridge/ Cart- a container with sponge (filled with juice) that is used with the Atty- juice drips on to Atty from filled cart and is vaporized- older outdated first “tank” system and prone to leaks unless the user is willing to buy extra seals and “fiddle” with them.
You don't want to buy the cartridge

Cartomizer/ Carto- metal tube with stuffing and element. Holds anywhere form 1- 4 ml of juice. Carto is fully saturated and must be occasionally refilled when juice runs out.

Carto+Tank- a Carto with a hole punched in it. Carto is than placed in a glass, metal or plastic tank which is filled with juice- juice saturates Carto by way of hole in Carto. My Cartos with a tank last, before tight draw occurs:
light juices- 80-90 ml. dark juices- 50-60 ml....learning curve involved.

Problem with testing in a cartomizer is if the juice is funky the filler is soaked with it. Can be cleaned by a hassle and time consuming.

Okay okay, i see what your saying now. For some reason I was thinking an atomizer was just a tiny piece or heating element without the piece to smoke from like a tiny piece in between the battery and a cartridge but you get them that appear as big as a ciggy .....

Yes they have a 30 day warranty but...
"The 30 Guarantee is only applicable to purchases that include complete Starter Kits and not individual component orders, disposable e-cigarettes or distributor orders. We will assess additional charges for damaged product, marked or stickered product, missing packaging or similar, based on the discretion of our Returns Department (equal to but no great than the cost of the goods in our on-line store)."

I seen that as well a few days ago, bunch of bogus. Was $59 plus 30 in shipping or something. My hopes would be $40 back or so to help with this setup.
 

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That's absolutely incredible Vapoor, everything I need. I really love the look of the 1300 spinner with the 2ml mini vivi and the sleeve. I thought that 1300 would be way too big, but I seen in a video that it's actually shorter than the 1000 twist that I was going to eventually upgrade to, but a bit chunkier, plus the 1300 should be able to last me all day.

The mini vivi looks perfect! I also seen a t3 metal kanger w/ window, is that also for larger vaporizers and look top heavy? it is a 3ml

As for the wall adapter, I have a million laying around from old cells and such, I believe 5v is what i need.

I'm getting way too excited about this but that setup is I think exactly what I am looking for, long battery life, and not a million cartridges. You might've just saved a long term smoker vapoor! :)

Cool. I know the initial outlay is high but as time goes on costs should go down. Yeah the 1300 in a VV is perfect cuz:
Remember I stated "100 mah is 1 hr normal vaping before recharge"? Other items will determine the longevity of the batt between charges...
1.8 ohms heads give warmer vape but drain batt quicker.
vaping @ higher voltage also drains batt quicker.
Nothing wrong with the above as it's more important to enjoy the vape rather than struggle with a weak vape. I've got a few 650 mah VV and they just don't last very long vaping @ 4 volts. My 1300 is perfect.
 

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Cool. I know the initial outlay is high but as time goes on costs should go down. Yeah the 1300 in a VV is perfect cuz:
Remember I stated "100 mah is 1 hr normal vaping before recharge"? Other items will determine the longevity of the batt between charges...
1.8 ohms heads give warmer vape but drain batt quicker.
vaping @ higher voltage also drains batt quicker.
Nothing wrong with the above as it's more important to enjoy the vape rather than struggle with a weak vape. I've got a few 650 mah VV and they just don't last very long vaping @ 4 volts. My 1300 is perfect.

I'm pretty much adding everything you said to my shopping cart, im lovin it.
As far as ohms, the mini vivi kit comes with 3 different ohms, so I can choose which vape I like best and then when it comes to restocking coils i guess ill get a big pack of the one I enjoy.
 

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I'm pretty much adding everything you said to my shopping cart, im lovin it.
As far as ohms, the mini vivi kit comes with 3 different ohms, so I can choose which vape I like best and then when it comes to restocking coils i guess ill get a big pack of the one I enjoy.
Yes the 1.8 ohms gives a warm vape- good from 3.3- 4.0 volts
2.4 ohms is cooler vape- good from 4- 4.8 volts
I enjoy a warm vape so I generally stick with the 1.8 but in the late evening switch to 2.4 ohms. Don't forget about juice. Where in Canada are you?
 

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The mini vivi looks perfect! I also seen a t3 metal kanger w/ window, is that also for larger vaporizers and look top heavy? it is a 3ml
Don't want get flamed but have never used the T3. Friends bought a set- wife's leaked from the get go. Hubby's was GREAT for 1 1/2 weeks and then began leaking. I am fairly good at figuring stuff out but it had me stumped. Seems to be hit and miss...some rave and others rant about them. That leads me to concerns about the upcoming Kanger ProTank (glass).
 

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Here's a pic of a 510 atomizer- maybe 2" long including thread

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Yup I seen the atty, now as far as the drip tips, the fancy ones, not a big fan, for some reason i think id like a plastic one or those whistle ones ive seen around.

Yes the 1.8 ohms gives a warm vape- good from 3.3- 4.0 volts
2.4 ohms is cooler vape- good from 4- 4.8 volts
I enjoy a warm vape so I generally stick with the 1.8 but in the late evening switch to 2.4 ohms. Don't forget about juice. Where in Canada are you?

What if the 1.8 was on and i turned it up to 4.8 volts? like is there a concern with things burning or melting or is a taste factor?
I live between Windsor and Chatham, about half an hour from the Windsor/Detroit border. I did get the list of nic juice supplies, and have been shopping around, but a lot of the 5 x3ml sample pack links seem to take me to nowhere or not available? But is seems as though 1ml=$1 almost regardless of the bottle size.

Don't want get flamed but have never used the T3. Friends bought a set- wife's leaked from the get go. Hubby's was GREAT for 1 1/2 weeks and then began leaking. I am fairly good at figuring stuff out but it had me stumped. Seems to be hit and miss...some rave and others rant about them. That leads me to concerns about the upcoming Kanger ProTank (glass).

I read the same, while the vivi seems to be recommended all the way around, so thats what I'll stick to.
 

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As for drip tips I've got all sorts of fancy given to me as gifts but really not WOWED by them.

What if the 1.8 was on and i turned it up to 4.8 volts? like is there a concern with things burning or melting or is a taste factor?
The silica wicks will only burn at a very high temp so that's no prob. The real problem would be the juice would burn and the wicks prolly couldn't keep up with 4.8 volts.
I live between Windsor and Chatham, about half an hour from the Windsor/Detroit border. I did get the list of nic juice supplies, and have been shopping around, but a lot of the 5 x3ml sample pack links seem to take me to nowhere or not available? But is seems as though 1ml=$1 almost regardless of the bottle size.
Unfortunately Canvape is the closest to you. At least you're close to the least expensive vendor in Canada. When you have a chance compare prices and get ready to fall out of your chair. here's a highly regarded juice vendor in TO with sample packs:
Sample Packs
 

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Some juice info:

Juice Components
Flavoring usually about 15%- could be higher or lower depending on the flavor used.
PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG.
Most begin at 18 or 24 Nicotine/ mg- sometimes lower and sometimes higher. I began @ 36 mg.

I drink about 2 liters of water per day. REMEMBER to stay hydrated as vaping is extremely dehydrating. Both PG and VG are hydroscopic / humectants- they trap the moisture in our mouth, throat and nasal areas and thus the vapor. Dehydration can have a serious negative impact on the vape experience and can also be very hard on certain organs. Add to this more than 3 cups java or caffeine laced soda drinks and dehydration is inevitable. Dehydration can not only ruin the vape experience but can also have unseen consequences on certain organs.
 
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