Wizard Labs is still down!! Any other suggestions?
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It is deliveries like this that may well cause overzealous bureaucrats to restrict nic deliveries, especially in higher concentrations. Actually anyone who would ship nic juice in such a sorry condition ought to be in some other line of business.
As well as having great prices, WL goes to great lengths in packaging. I should take pictures of my next purchase and post it for those who are unfamiliar with WL. These guys are the greatest!
Can't wait for them to reopen! Can't wait for them to reopen! Oops! I'm repeating myself!
Can't wait for them to reopen! Can't wait for them to reopen! Oops! I'm repeating myself!
I was considering timing myself to see how long it takes to tear through multiple layers of packing, tape, bubblewrap, more tape, etc, etc.
Thats it, someone needs to make a Wizard Labs unpacking video!
Utube it and put it up as a sticky!
Utube it and put it up as a sticky!
Thats it, someone needs to make a Wizard Labs unpacking video!
Utube it and put it up as a sticky!
I might just have to do that. There would be a lot of swearing though.
My kids love it when i get a package from WL, there's enough bubbles to pop for all 3 of them.
And i really NEED them to reopen, its the only place where i can get the seedmans and tfa flavors needed for my favorite ADV juices
And i really NEED them to reopen, its the only place where i can get the seedmans and tfa flavors needed for my favorite ADV juices
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Sorry to interrupt your thread, but this claim makes me crazy!Herbert Gilbert's "Smokeless Non-tobacco Cigarette" has nothing in common with Hon Lok's invention other than the shape, a battery, a mouthpiece and a flavored liquid cartridge.
OK, but, even Jin 888, from London can say, "Amazing. Thanks Sicarius and all. Wow the e-cig is older than me!! This bit stands out from the maiden's article link about Gilbert; " His electronic cigarette had the potential to knock the profets of big tobacco on their butts and his fuel extender would have done anything but extend the profits of big oil. With two such large industries against him is it any wonder that neither was a commercial success?"
Even Wikipedia can acknowledge "The primitive concept of an electronic cigarette can be traced to an idea by Herbert A Gilbert, who in 1963 patented a device........
Spin it any way you wish, but, "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams
United States Patent Office, filled Apr. 17 1963 Patented Aug. 17, 1965
Read it, I did. Vacuum tube or bulb. Imagine if it would have been manufactured. How much sooner we would have gotten to todays e-cig.
No, it not todays e-cig. 20 years from now todays e-cig will be a dinosaur.
I know the world is upside down but,
Herbert A Gilbert says: " THANKS FOR REMEMBERING WHO WAS FIRST. FUNNY, I FIND MYSELF ALL OVER GOOGLE FOR SOMETHING I DID MANY YEARS AGO....FAMOUS AT 81." March 26, 2012
OK, but, even Jin 888, from London can say, "Amazing. Thanks Sicarius and all. Wow the e-cig is older than me!! This bit stands out from the maiden's article link about Gilbert; " His electronic cigarette had the potential to knock the profets of big tobacco on their butts and his fuel extender would have done anything but extend the profits of big oil. With two such large industries against him is it any wonder that neither was a commercial success?"
Even Wikipedia can acknowledge "The primitive concept of an electronic cigarette can be traced to an idea by Herbert A Gilbert, who in 1963 patented a device........
Spin it any way you wish, but, "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams
United States Patent Office, filled Apr. 17 1963 Patented Aug. 17, 1965
Read it, I did. Vacuum tube or bulb. Imagine if it would have been manufactured. How much sooner we would have gotten to todays e-cig.
No, it not todays e-cig. 20 years from now todays e-cig will be a dinosaur.
I know the world is upside down but,
Herbert A Gilbert says: " THANKS FOR REMEMBERING WHO WAS FIRST. FUNNY, I FIND MYSELF ALL OVER GOOGLE FOR SOMETHING I DID MANY YEARS AGO....FAMOUS AT 81." March 26, 2012
I'm glad Mr. Gilbert finds happiness in his newly found fame, but I still disagree that what he designed was a precursor to Hon Lok's design. There is no evidence that Hon Lok ever saw that old patent, so his design could have been completely his original idea? Just because Gilbert thought of a similar device years ago doesn't mean he invent THE e-cigarette, it means he invent AN e-cigarette. I'm not sure why people are so keen to take away credit from Hon Lok? Gilbert didn't design the device that is saving millions of lives today, Hon Lok did. So, what is the point of bringing up the fact that Gilbert had a similar idea 50 years ago other than to diminish Hon Lok's accomplishment?
I guess it just doesn't sit right with me. Of course, everyone is entitled to have their own opinion, so I don't want to start an argument!
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Kristen,
I don't think anyone is trying to diminish what Hon Lok has done. In fact, my hat is off to him. Lenardo Da Vinci invented the helicopter 400 years before the first successful flight, but it takes nothing away from Da Vinci, or Igor Sikorsky, the person responsible for the helicopter as we know it, in 1940.
I don't think anyone is trying to diminish what Hon Lok has done. In fact, my hat is off to him. Lenardo Da Vinci invented the helicopter 400 years before the first successful flight, but it takes nothing away from Da Vinci, or Igor Sikorsky, the person responsible for the helicopter as we know it, in 1940.
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Respectfully, I have to disagree:
If it came up in a conversation along the lines of "Hey, did you guys know that there was an e-cig invented in 1965?" it would be one thing. But it always seems to come up as a counter to the claim that the Chinese or a Chinese man invented e-cigarettes. Maybe I'm reading it wrong every time, but that is how it appears.
Seriously, I don't want to hijack your thread about Wizard Labs and I don't want to start offending people here over this. It's just a major pet peeve of mine.
So, sorry for butting in - please resume the regular topic and just forget I was here!
The fact is, HERBERT A Gilbert invented the e-cig.
The fact is, Hon Lok invented the modern e-cig that we have today.
It would be hard to forget and it does raise ?
The fact is, Hon Lok invented the modern e-cig that we have today.
It would be hard to forget and it does raise ?
I believe my answer to this ? was correct. ITs that simple. If the ? was worded different, the answer may have been different. That all there is too it.
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Thanks for the heads up JA, at least i can get half of what i needed.
*also, everybody (most people) credit Thomas Edison with being the father of our electric world, but its Tesla who invented the system we use today. Gilbert invented the e-cig, Lok invented the e-cig we use today.
*also, everybody (most people) credit Thomas Edison with being the father of our electric world, but its Tesla who invented the system we use today. Gilbert invented the e-cig, Lok invented the e-cig we use today.
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Henry Ford took someone else's idea and combined it with the assembly line idea and made combustion engine automobiles available to the masses. Thousands of engineers have revamped it to make it what it is today. I wouldn't want to have to use an original design Model T Ford for the 100 mile round trip daily commute that I did for 14 years. And I wouldn't think it proper to give Henry credit for modern day car design and performance.
Henry got props for his, and others took up the torch and did things that Henry couldn't fathom, and got props for theirs.
Someone sounds like they are angry that Henry Ford doesn't get the credit for modern day engineering. Why should he?
Henry got props for his, and others took up the torch and did things that Henry couldn't fathom, and got props for theirs.
Someone sounds like they are angry that Henry Ford doesn't get the credit for modern day engineering. Why should he?
So, do we have any idea of when Wizard's will reopen? Looks like their last update on the site was on 1/27.
Sorry if there's a post somewhere with that info...I've not been around here for awhile and haven't been able to find anything other than this thread.
Got my cart all filled and am ready to checkout.
Sorry if there's a post somewhere with that info...I've not been around here for awhile and haven't been able to find anything other than this thread.
Got my cart all filled and am ready to checkout.
Thanks eHuman,
If we must continue, then this thread is a must read.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nvented-brought-us-modern-ecig-agree-not.html
If we must continue, then this thread is a must read.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nvented-brought-us-modern-ecig-agree-not.html
Give credit where credit is due. Henry started the process. Technology wasn't available to him that we have today. Computers aren't the same as when they were first invented. If it weren't for these pioneers, where would we really be today? The same place? Igor Sikorsky took someone else's idea (Leonardo Da Vinci) and flew with it. Pun intended! And even though Igor gets the credit for helicopters, they are vastly different today, and nothing like Igor's design. The Chinese invented rockets, but they couldn't get anyone into space. They did try, however. LOL!
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