WOOHOO! Alternative Connector for 510

[nicowolf]

@ mnealtx:

incidentally, these look just like the lamp holders for my turn signals on my truck. Maybe you could just "salvage" one from a bombed out car .

 

[mnealtx]

@ mnealtx:

incidentally, these look just like the lamp holders for my turn signals on my truck. Maybe you could just "salvage" one from a bombed out car .

I've literally seen cars rolling down the road with a back wheel BOUNCING due to not being balanced...that should SURELY rattle SOMEthing off, right?

/me goes off to take a walk down the shoulder of the road..../

 

[kinabaloo]

Some confusion I think about the word 'bayonet'. It actually refers to a fitting that has two protrusions which are used to hold a bulb in place after it is turned slightly after full insertion. There is no E10 bayonet fitting afaik.

 

[kinabaloo]

@ mnealtx:

incidentally, these look just like the lamp holders for my turn signals on my truck. Maybe you could just "salvage" one from a bombed out car .

Yes, most of the bulbs that fit the E10 are in the automotive range (12-24v)

 

[nicowolf]

Some confusion I think about the word 'bayonet'. It actually refers to a fitting that has two protrusions which are used to hold a bulb in place after it is turned slightly after full insertion. There is no E10 bayonet fitting afaik.

The bulb pictured here goes in a bayonet fitting.

 

[kinabaloo]

The bulb pictured here goes in a bayonet fitting.

yes. I guess there are E10 bulbs and holders in bayonet style; bbut rare, most seem to be threaded.

Are the 510 threads a match? Or just the width (1cm)?

 

[mnealtx]

The link in the OP *is* to a bayonet base...

 

[nicowolf]

yes. I guess there are E10 bulbs and holders in bayonet style; bbut rare, most seem to be threaded.

Are the 510 threads a match? Or just the width (1cm)?

Just the width and the coaxial setup. It doesn't actually touch the threaded portion at all, just the outer edge where the threaded part meets the atomizer body. The threaded portion is actually more like 5.5 or 6mm in diameter.

 

[mnealtx]

Just the width and the coaxial setup. It doesn't actually touch the threaded portion at all, just the outer edge where the threaded part meets the atomizer body. The threaded portion is actually more like 5.5 or 6mm in diameter.

Making a 'press-fit' with the bayonet socket may be a better choice, then. I'm thinking, cut the prongs down and use some heat-shrink tubing to hold them under tension and provide some resistance on the inhale...your thoughts?

 

[nicowolf]

Making a 'press-fit' with the bayonet socket may be a better choice, then. I'm thinking, cut the prongs down and use some heat-shrink tubing to hold them under tension and provide some resistance on the inhale...your thoughts?

Prongs?? I don't see any prongs.

Heat-shrink tubing may be an option for holding the diameter where I want it so it doesn't loosen up over time - giving that idea some thought. The venilation holes on the atomizer are already encapsulated in this part by the time I get it to make contact. That creates a little resistance. I don't want too much resistance - means more work.

 

[mnealtx]

By prongs, I mean the two sides of the bayonet housing, made by the slots for the nubs on the bulb - sorry.

Prongs, petals, that split-whatchamacallit... whatever works. :grin:

 

[kinabaloo]

Are the threads on the 510 so wierd that there's no way to use them? A 901 threaded section is about 6mm in diameter and the threads llok similar; I guess they are an unusual pitch?

 

[mnealtx]

Are the threads on the 510 so wierd that there's no way to use them? A 901 threaded section is about 6mm in diameter and the threads llok similar; I guess they are an unusual pitch?

I can *maybe* find out when my day shift guy comes in, depending on what all of his tools he has available in the locker in back (the guy's a packrat).

If I'm lucky, I can supply diameter and pitch in a couple hours.

 

[kinabaloo]

I can *maybe* find out when my day shift guy comes in, depending on what all of his tools he has available in the locker in back (the guy's a packrat).

If I'm lucky, I can supply diameter and pitch in a couple hours.

The only way to get a decent grip on the atty is to be using those threads.

Maybe a visit to a hardware store is in order - find a bolt that will work; check all those with a 6mm internal diameter.

That's a start. Then weld or epoxy this bolt ... (to be continued)

Once have the grip, can make the rest, including electrical contacts.

Or is this making the price of a battery seem the best way to go ...?

 

[kinabaloo]

Magic putty is a way. Lightly grease threads. Pack the putty around the atty and when almost set, unscrew atty. Drill centee hole for a contact bolt. Use a washer on top for the negative contact.

5 minutes work

 

[kinabaloo]

Regarding the lamp holder method, the E10 is 10mm in diameter. So perhaps a miniature LES holder would be better; these are 6mm in diameter (and 9mm high). But same style. Should get a good grip with this on the 6mm diamter threads of the 510 atty.

Example: LES Lampholder : Small Bulb Lampholders : Maplin

LES 6mm is otherwise same design as the E10.

 

[kinabaloo]

One last idea: gut an RCA connector (either plug or socket, whichever looks most promising). Should be similar then to the lampholder, but stronger.

 

[mnealtx]

The only way to get a decent grip on the atty is to be using those threads.

Maybe a visit to a hardware store is in order - find a bolt that will work; check all those with a 6mm internal diameter.

That's a start. Then weld or epoxy this bolt ... (to be continued)

Once have the grip, can make the rest, including electrical contacts.

Or is this making the price of a battery seem the best way to go ...?

This is more of a field-expedient, as I see it. I know that the 401 charger connector is compatible with the 510 atomizer and is reasonably inexpensive ($3.50 from ruyandirect for the USB charger, which nets you a charger chip for your mod as well, I would presume).

 

[kinabaloo]

One last idea: Wind some stiff wire tightlyaround the atty threads, following the thread (so a suitable guage is required, but doesn;'t need to be exact).

Then carefully solder or epoxy onto the outside of the wire coil. Then remove atty and check in can be reinserted.

Then construct the center contact.

 

[kinabaloo]

This is more of a field-expedient, as I see it. I know that the 401 charger connector is compatible with the 510 atomizer and is reasonably inexpensive ($3.50 from ruyandirect for the USB charger, which nets you a charger chip for your mod as well, I would presume).

Sounds good! So put the charger chip board and usb socket into the box too, along with the 510 connector