Would you say that vaping is now growing exponentially in popularity?

[SmellYaLaterCigs]

So mom and pop stores never compete with on line retailers?

95% of the time they don't. The exception would be industries with fixed prices (video games come to mind), B&M/online combos like wal-mart, and obviously things like groceries which aren't very feasible to sell online.

Bulk equals lower prices. Online stores can sell to customers around the world while B&M's can only sell to people willing to travel to their store. Online stores are therefore able to purchase goods in a greater bulk and therefore sell their products at a lower price.

I'm really amazed this is difficult for you to grasp

 

[polingpower]

I just left a mom & pop shop,, shaking my head... omg 28.95 for a protank 1
i payed 17.oo at b&m here in the same area.
geez ..they could go to FT stock their shelf better

 

[bluecat]

95% of the time they don't. The exception would be industries with fixed prices (video games come to mind), B&M/online combos like wal-mart, and obviously things like groceries which aren't very feasible to sell online.

Bulk equals lower prices. Online stores can sell to customers around the world while B&M's can only sell to people willing to travel to their store. Online stores are therefore able to purchase goods in a greater bulk and therefore sell their products at a lower price.

I'm really amazed this is difficult for you to grasp

So what would you consider any of the brick and mortar stores here that have one or two locations? Somehow they are not competing with the Fasttechs of the world? They started off Mom and Pop and now have several locations.. Yes they also have a website.

I am amazed you get amazed.

 

[bluecat]

You'll see that I liked post 29. I do not agree with the later statement"This is true of anything in life" - because it's a sweeping generalisation and not true. What's your beef?

I don't care about likes. I never follow them.

So I guess you are saying that someone who doesn't do any research has a leg up on someone that does research? Anyway I am done..

Sorry to the OP.

 

[e-pipeman]

I don't care about likes. I never follow them.

So I guess you are saying that someone who doesn't do any research has a leg up on someone that does research? Anyway I am done..

Sorry to the OP.

No. Throughout the thread you have made a series of assertions as if they were self-evident truths. I've challenged those statements, that's all.

 

[fancypants]

Honestly, this area seems to be the last to know about anything. I know my mom Vapes in addition to myself, I have another smoker pretty much sold on a starter kit. I know my sister's boyfriend does but he lives in Houston, not here. My sister bought me a drip tip the other day, LOL! I've been vaping a little over a month! She knows what a drip tip is, I'm amazed. I can't wait to get it, she has phenomenal taste in picking out clothes, decorations, things like that. She definitely will pick out something fantastic.

But other than that, I haven't met another one yet. I think maybe one person on FB likes a few of the Vape stores or vendors online. I think more would be open to it, but trying to educate some of these people...Won't happen. My mom went out a bought me something to start and although it died, when she told me about I was excited to try it! After that I did research and found a local B&M to start, then did more and more research. I wound up here shortly after buying my first eGo about a month ago.

I'd like to see more here, of course there is far more going on in New Orleans, but I try to educate when I can and when it's welcome. But really not here, not yet. One cop took apart a woman's vaporizer about 30 miles away from here because he was convinced it was some kind of crack pipe. So no, not popular or well known here.

 

[tj99959]

No. Throughout the thread you have made a series of assertions as if they were self-evident truths. I've challenged those statements, that's all.

Well I'll "assert" a few more thoughts.

Vaping will reach a saturation point and the growth will level off at some point in the future.

We will see changes in business models in the future with the advent of more local distribution centers. Some of the more established on line vendors are already looking more like distributers than vendors. One that started as a basement internet business here where I live now has 4 retail outlets in two states, and a huge warehouse.
Wait & watch, next will come sales reps that go from store to store stocking shelves, just like Pepsi & Wonderbread.

 

[e-pipeman]

Well I'll "assert" a few more thoughts.

Vaping will reach a saturation point and the growth will level off at some point in the future.

We will see changes in business models in the future with the advent of more local distribution centers. Some of the more established on line vendors are already looking more like distributers than vendors. One that started as a basement internet business here where I live now has 4 retail outlets in two states, and a huge warehouse.
Wait & watch, next will come sales reps that go from store to store stocking shelves, just like Pepsi & Wonderbread.

Near where I live two big companies involved in e-cigs have developed huge businesses - Intellicig and Totally Wicked. They have achieved their success by having clear business plans from the outset. Any B&M that has an equally clear business plan may well do well - but it's equally true that the marketplace is much more crowded than it once was so it will be more of a challenge. The reps that you talk about already deliver to pharmacies in the UK, to pubs and other retail outlets.

 

[tj99959]

Near where I live two big companies involved in e-cigs have developed huge businesses - Intellicig and Totally Wicked. They have achieved their success by having clear business plans from the outset. Any B&M that has an equally clear business plan may well do well - but it's equally true that the marketplace is much more crowded than it once was so it will be more of a challenge. The reps that you talk about already deliver to pharmacies in the UK, to pubs and other retail outlets.

And the e-cig industry will eventually follow that same business model.
Actually Blu already is.

 

[e-pipeman]

And the e-cig industry will eventually follow that same business model.
Actually Blu already is.

I was referring to the e-cig industry delivering to pharmacies etc- sorry if that wasn't clear.

 

[tj99959]

But we have a thing about e-cigs & pharmacies here in the US ......... called a lawsuit (Nhailer ve FDA)

 

[e-pipeman]

But we have a thing about e-cigs & pharmacies here in the US ......... called a lawsuit (Nhailer ve FDA)

Watch this space - our Government wants to regulate e-cigs as medical products. Main impact shouldn't be 'til 2015.

 

[Mike Sheda]

If you had a good Vape Shop in your area, would you have ever heard about ECF? Let alone FT? The only reason I found ECF is because the internet was the only place for me to get gear...

I have a couple good vape shops in my area, and I'm still here. Granted, I was here before I went to one of them, but I'm still here.
I could drive to Target and get things that I get from Amazon. I prefer the convenience to shopping online.

In order for a good shop to really compete, they need both, a good shop, and a good online presence. (think altsmoke as an example right off hand)

 

[THETOTALLYCOOL]

Yeah, it's becoming more popular, but not anything near exponential growth. Remember the snus coupons? RJR had a good plan there-- pretty much give the stuff away to the target audience. Eventually, I tried it as I dipped back in the day. But I didn't like it as a replacement product as amongst other things, it was too tame.

To see amazing rapid growth, big companies with distribution networks already in place need to offer a product at a price comparable to generic cigarettes. Get the man on payday to buy two packs of Marlboro, and a disposable at the same time. Keep the quality consistent, and let him transition slowly. Then start with the significant coupons.

In my microcosm, maybe 40% who switched over the last year are still with it. At the same time, some people have just quit altogether, or they only vape in their vehicles, or at home. I do see more people in their cars using an e-cig. But I'm not seeing it when I'm out at the park, or at a party or something.

 

[Thunderball]

Would you say that vaping is now growing exponentially in popularity?

By leaps and bounds my friend. From Millions to Billions. Its getting huge.

 

[CommaHolly]

Well, she's vaping and helped open a vape shop and when you listen to her, I get the feeling she is barely able to think for more than a few minutes without getting a head ache. So if she's heard of it, then yes, its growing.

What is Vaping- V-apes Vape Shop - YouTube

omg, best laugh I've had all day,,,,,,,

I also get the feeling she's DYING to have you fasten your eyes on her chest (general "you")

LOL

 

[kasunart]

I work in a shop in the public and have seen a lot of growth in the last year. I vape openly (I own my store, I'm the boss!) and I always have a selection of my mechanical mods and rebuildables with me, and only one of about a hundred vapers even knew there was a world beyond egos or disposables. My buddy went out to check out a new local vape shop and was disgusted...the employees had never seen or heard or anything more advanced than the usual Chinese stuff. No AW batteries, no wick or wire, no rebuildable anything.
I think if the FDA lets the free market be, without choking businesses, I believe vaping will quickly overcome smoking in the next few years. I've personally converted about a dozen friends. I think I saw a study last year that showed that since '07 the industry about doubles each year. Easy to believe.
At least all the smokers I come across now days have "heard" about e-cigs. Many strangers who never smoked have now heard of them too. Everyone is thrilled I quit smoking with them and always asks where to go. I send them here for research!