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Aaron,

This really isn't the place to do your cancer research.
Just how will you respond to all these people if and when WTA is found to contain cancer causing ingredients?
What will you say then?

Pete

Not doing cancer research here. Just saying it is a great product and the future. You can see what I wrote here and at my small review blog. Just saying try it. Even if the fear mongers are right do you really believe one bottle is going to kill you? I already had cancer from smoking cigs for 10 years. It is well proven that analogs cause cancer. Who knows if WTA does? I don't have any stock or money making plans with WTA even though I wish I did.
Some ejuice already has WTA in it. I think it is a great advance in taking out less stuff from the tobacco extract (nicotine) in juices. Why are you so against it? Why did you target me other then I made a post saying it was the future?
A friend gave me samples of it. I was impressed enough to buy two more juices. I have 2 more samples I am going to review in the coming week and samples of different flavors on the way. I a vaping some high WTA juice now because I am going to a non vape friendly dinner party in a bit. Honestly, I am the wrong guy to attack. But bring it on if you want. I think a small spark of light of truth can illuminate a whole room filled of darkness and ignorance. Have a good one
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Aaron,

I am not attacking you, but AM greatly concerned about UNKNOWN ingredients being added to our ejuice.

Speaking of darkness and ignorance...(Hey, I wasn't the one to bring it up!)

Darkness...(Please enlighten me!)
Does WTA contain cancer causing ingredients?
Are you sure alkaloids are safe?
Just which alkaloids would I be ingesting by using WTA?

Perhaps you could pick from the following list I found in the Alkaloid article in Wikipedia:

Many alkaloids are toxic to other organisms. They often have pharmacological effects and are used as medications, as recreational drugs, or in entheogenic rituals. Examples are the local anesthetic and stimulant .......; the stimulant caffeine; nicotine; the analgesic morphine; the antibacterial berberine; the anticancer compound vincrinstine; the antihypertension agent resepine; the cholinomimeric galatamine; the spasmolysis agent atropine; the vasodilator vincamine; the anti-arhythmia compound quinidine; the anti-asthma therapeutic ephedrine; and the antimalarial drug quinine. Although alkaloids act on a diversity of metabolic systems in humans and other animals, they almost uniformly invoke a bitter taste.

(It really is an informative article. You should read it some time. Especially the part about the baby Cyclops(One Eyed) sheep herd that were born to mother sheep that consumed certain types of alkaloids while pregnant. They even include a photo of a cute one eyed sheep.)

Ignorance...
I didn't call you that,although you are beginning to look that way.
I have done some homework concerning alkaloids and really have not found much beneficial about consuming them.
Please Aaron, cure my ignorance.
The internet is a huge place with all kinds of information, perhaps I'm just too ignorant to have discovered ANY information as to the benefits of consuming unknown alkaloids. Please point the way!

Bring it on.

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Wow dude.

You read Wikipedia and now you're an expert on alkaloids.

I must be an expert on sex, since I've read Penthouse.
In fact the number of topics I'm an expert on would astound you.

Impress me...find something better than Wikipedia to quote as your source for WTA being dangerous.
 
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I'd just be happy to see a GC-MS done on some WTA juice to see just what is in it. We already know what is in "normal juice"

I think that is the next step too.

I've sampled some, and it worked for me.
WTA not only took away my need to smoke, but it partially subsided my need to vape.
 

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AG,

How about Cornell University?

Cornell University Department of Animal Science

Do you really think it is okay to put WTA on the market without any form of testing?

That is my one and only issue.
If they start selling WTA without doing the testing first they are doing all of us a great disservice.
Just what are you going to do 2 years from now when they do find out it contains carcinogens?

Okay this next part is to just bust your chops a bit...(Don't take it the wrong way!)
Especially when they find out it causes your you know what to fall off! LOL
Then you will have to cross off that part of your expertise on your resume.
Seriously dude...I've slept with many women to become an expert at sex, not from the pages of Penthouse.

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AG,

How about Cornell University?

Cornell University Department of Animal Science
Do you really think it is okay to put WTA on the market without any form of testing?

That is my one and only issue.
If they start selling WTA without doing the testing first they are doing all of us a great disservice.
Just what are you going to do 2 years from now when they do find out it contains carcinogens?

Okay this next part is to just bust your chops a bit...(Don't take it the wrong way!)
Especially when they find out it causes your you know what to fall off! LOL
Then you will have to cross off that part of your expertise on your resume.
Seriously dude...I've slept with many women to become an expert at sex, not from the pages of Penthouse.
Pete


How is it you think regular juice has no alkaloids or carcinogens at all?
Does all of your juice have studies to back up that it is non poisonous or safe to inhale?
The answer to that is "hell no it doesn't!"

I haven't a clue why you put up a link to Cornell University Department of Animal Science
without sufficient facts to steer us to what we were supposed to see on that page besides everything?! :confused:
http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/toxicagents/index.html

WTA will not cause your weiner to fall off or your hair and neither will your juice.
If what your claiming had any basis in fact people would have reported it to the lousy FDA by now. Please do some reading all of you who are claiming WTA is some kind of "additive" it is not.
I don't see any of you calling for all your juices to be studied right away.:glare:
Why isn't Jerry here defending his product?
I believe he said he has his tested and made in a lab yeah?
AccessScience | Encyclopedia Article | Nicotine alkaloids
C.B.
 
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Really you had to go there, seriously.
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :pop:

I'll bite!
Where would that be? :confused:
In case some have not bothered to read the whole thread, I use WTA
and I've been using it every single day.
I have gotten none of the harmful effects some may believe you might get from this juice but I don't think there are any.
I do vape a whole lot less, feel calmer and more focused.
I never get that from my other juices either.
I am able to not have to vape two fisted though and that is a huge improvement for me.
For the record there are no additives in WTA and I love it!
I'm grateful that I have been able to get some.
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As long as the person understands that wta liquids have the same carcinogens as chew snus or snuff let them have at it. Personally for me vaping was a way to get a similar experience as I did when I was a smoker with greater health benefits than something I could pick up more conveniently at my local gas station. I thought about purchasing some wta liquids until I looked through the disclaimer at the vaporlicious website. But by all means its your body do to it what you want.
 

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Just a note: Vapelicious is not allowed to be a registered supplier on the ECF, because their name is too close to another Registered Supplier: Vape-a-licious (creator of AG's Dream). These two companies are not affiliated in any way.

In addition: I'm not sure I even trust Vapelicious WTA after the manner in which they have attacked Jerry at Aroma Ejuice. The owner of Vapelicious seems juvenile & extremely unprofessional. Right out of the gate he has started a "My WTA is better than your WTA" discussion. As someone who supports the research & the addition of this "missing link," I'm not happy with the manner in which Vapelicious is doing business.
 

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I trust Ethan (vapelicious).

It would be more favorable to Ethan's business to stick to his own knitting and leave Jerry to his.
A pissing match over WTA isn't going to help the cause...it only throws doubt into it.
It's like people arguing over who has the better mod or best juice...totally counterproductive.
The vaping community, as a rule, shows respect to the other members and their products.
It would be great if Ethan would remove his negative comments about Aroma from his website.

This is my opinion. Nothing more or less. I would like to see WTA go forward in a positive light.
 
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Hi Aaron, please help me, i would like to get some of the wta e liquid as soon as possible. How do i get it? I am new to www & vaping. please help, thank you.

Sure np. I think the only place to get it now is here. Just chose some flavors and email the guy. Make sure WTA is right for you. Listen to some of the podcasts I listed here and read up on it. I think it is the future but kind of the wild west right now :p So be careful.
 
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