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I tried mine all different times and quantities to give it a chance. I REALLY wanted it to work. I NEEDED it to work but, it never did. I was lucky to have a Spinner with good TH. Aroma ejuice is where I got mine. It is really kind of expensive.

Vapelicious sells 12 mL bottles for a little cheaper than Aroma's 10 mL and you can get higher levels of WTA. Still not as inexpensive as regular eliquid, though. Who knows, maybe you are done with the whole deal???
 

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I think I've thrown in the towel lol.

Due to my mistake by perusing the AROMA site too quickly, I recently ordered a bunch of 10 ml bottles of eliquids for $8.00 each and I thought they'd have WTA's duh :facepalm:

Why didn't I realize the price was so low...it must've been a full moon, or once in a blue moon, kind of thing :blink:
 
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So with that WTA - is it much more dangerous than the other tobacco vapes. I heard it kinda defeats the purpose as you get all the bad stuff from it again which you don't with the normal vapes. 's that true>?

Please enlighten me with what you have heard? and from whom? where? got links or references?
just curious:)
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So with that WTA - is it much more dangerous than the other tobacco vapes. I heard it kinda defeats the purpose as you get all the bad stuff from it again which you don't with the normal vapes. 's that true>?

Not true. It's not possible for me to put into a few words the inaccuracy of what you have "heard". I suggest you read the large amount of information available if the topic interests you, and learn what the "bad stuff" is, what WTA is, and whether or not they have any relationship.
Smoking is bad for you, vaping is less bad for you. The only thing that eliminates any associated risk is not to smoke or vape at all. It does no service to spread misinformation which in the long run may inhibit people's ability to improve their lives or enjoy themselves. I hope whoever you heard this from remembers that this sort of misinformation is exactly the same sort of justification the powers that be could use to take away vaping altogether, WTA or not. Perhaps where you are this is already the case?
I'm sorry if I sound harsh, that's not my intent. There is real information out there!
 

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So with that WTA - is it much more dangerous than the other tobacco vapes. I heard it kinda defeats the purpose as you get all the bad stuff from it again which you don't with the normal vapes. 's that true>?

While you are not far from the truth, I think you are headed in the wrong direction from the truth. While WTA juice may not be as innocuous as normal "tobacco vapes," it is not, by any stretch of the imagination, giving you "all the bad stuff"--which I imagine you mean, "bad stuff" as in a cigarette. As it is well known that there are over 4,000 chemicals in a burning cigarette, the key is burning. Whole tobacco alkaloids should be used as a means of harm reduction, and IMO, not for kicks, but it is still worlds away from the harm that is being reduced.
 

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I tried mine all different times and quantities to give it a chance. I REALLY wanted it to work. I NEEDED it to work but, it never did. I was lucky to have a Spinner with good TH. Aroma Ejuice is where I got mine. It is really kind of expensive.

^^I don't quite understand what this means.

Smoking is not expensive?
Do you smoke cigarettes and vape or just vape and don't smoke?

Lucky you have good throat hit? Is that what you wanted from WTAs? or why did you try WTAs?
I get throat hit from high nic, but I need more than just a nicotine, throat hit and variable voltage.

Chain vaping non WTA niotine liquids does keep my hands and mouth occupied, but that's not quite enough for me. I know I'm looking for a feeling, a sensation, a fullness... something more complete than what I'm getting now with regular eliquids.
 

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Sorry, thats what I meant. In comparison to vaping.
I don't see the point of giving up smoking and then starting vaping and cutting the harm down to PG/VG and Nicotine and then INCREASE the risk again by starting to vape something that is still potentially substantially worse for my health than vaping alone.
I have been struggling for years to cut out the bad and now that I finally reduced the harm why would I want to increase the harmful substance intake again?

Okay good! That's a reasonable choice for you. It's not for everybody. Me? In some years time people can point to me as the leading WTA guinea pig. I vape it all the time recreationally, I feel fantastic and can run circles around guys 1/3 my age. But if I keel over from some lung malady or anything remotely related, they'd better blame my 37 year 2 pack a day smoking habit first.
 

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All I can say is, WTA got me to the point I can do without analogs...and I can now do without WTA...and most surprising of ALL, I can do without vaping for several days at a time, with ZERO 'nic fits'! :ohmy:

However, I LOVE vaping, and a little bit of nic keeps my spirit feeling more settled. Between Aroma and Vapelicious, the latter did 'the job' for me, but I sincerely appreciate BOTH vendors, and keep a supply of WTA on hand just in case I feel that monkey crawling up my back again! (It hasn't happened often, but a 3rd bourbon and coke has been known to invite 'the craving' to party with me! :blink: That's when I pull out the Xtra high WTA! ;))

@Mr Mann - HOWDY! Haven't seen you around much lately, but I can see by the number of posts under your name, you've been a busy boy! :D

Good to C U again! :headbang:
 

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All I can say is, WTA got me to the point I can do without analogs...and I can now do without WTA...and most surprising of ALL, I can do without vaping for several days at a time, with ZERO 'nic fits'! :ohmy:

However, I LOVE vaping, and a little bit of nic keeps my spirit feeling more settled. Between Aroma and Vapelicious, the latter did 'the job' for me, but I sincerely appreciate BOTH vendors, and keep a supply of WTA on hand just in case I feel that monkey crawling up my back again! (It hasn't happened often, but a 3rd bourbon and coke has been known to invite 'the craving' to party with me! :blink: That's when I pull out the Xtra high WTA! ;))

@Mr Mann - HOWDY! Haven't seen you around much lately, but I can see by the number of posts under your name, you've been a busy boy! :D

Good to C U again! :headbang:

OMG! I swear to you--not joking--I thought about you last week and today! I am so happy you popped in and I hope all is well with you.
 

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I couldn't say so in the other thread (it's closed), but I want to take a second here to mention that Rolygate really did a fine job of laying out all the particulars in that post.

I know, right? That is why I felt as if it was best to post that link. It is easy, with a subject as wonky as this, to just post a link where it is so clearly broken down --- Roly clearly broke it down! I am not certain about posting to other forums here (maybe a mod can chime in), but if you would like the links to where it all started, I can send you those.
 

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I'm very much against the FDA sticking its greedy paws into our business -- by the same token, I also view with distaste anything that might give them more of an excuse than they already have to do so; on that basis, I need to weigh how I feel about WTA e-juice.
I get where you're coming from in that it's tempting to think the FDA might use WTA as an excuse to meddle. Thing is, at this point in time WTA has proven to be nothing but beneficial for many people, and absolutely no evidence has surfaced that it is any more harmful than vaping in general. On that basis I think it's incumbent upon all of us to educate ourselves and defend our position over the full spectrum of harm reduction, not run scared from the "what ifs" of the FDA.
 

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I couldn't say so in the other thread (it's closed), but I want to take a second here to mention that Rolygate really did a fine job of laying out all the particulars in that post.
Indeed. I hadn't posted a link to it because until recently it was slightly outdated. I just noticed it was recently edited and is more informative.
 

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I'm very much against the FDA sticking its greedy paws into our business -- by the same token, I also view with distaste anything that might give them more of an excuse than they already have to do so; on that basis, I need to weigh how I feel about WTA e-juice.

I think it is all on how it is packaged and sold or do you disagree?
 
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