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It's so good to see this thread come back to life!
AaronY, you said your cravings are gone, fantastic! So your analog cravings quit, *and* you don't crave WTA? Big step! Sounds like it helped exactly the way we thought it would. All you guys.

Me? I like WTA as much as ever, it's my ice cream! I don't need it, I don't crave it, I just love it.

I don't have the cravings like before. I think WTA helped me progress. So WTA is like ice cream once the cravings go away? I am going to fill my next reo bottle with some and get back to you all.
 

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I don't have the cravings like before. I think WTA helped me progress. So WTA is like ice cream once the cravings go away? I am going to fill my next reo bottle with some and get back to you all.

I am vaping it now and as high as a kite. LOL. Hope my spelling is okay. It is like smoking after not smoking for a couple of months. This is crazy. Hope I don't start craving it now.
 

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45 year smoker - 5 month Vapor, next week. Immediately went from 1.5pk day habit to 18mg. ecigs. Two weeks later down to 12mg and several of my flavors are now 9/6mg
Nothing but regular old Eliquids with no Magic additions to save me from that nasty habit I could NOT break until finding this alternative.

WTA ma be a solution for the low percentage that just cannot stop smoking, but honestly I believe most return to smoking because they never get past the crappy, over priced, over sold, almost worthless Analogue clone E-cigs that just do not provide the replacement they expect and they have no clue people like the ones on ECF are there to help guide and support them. Just my personal feelings.
 

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37 year smoker, 19 month vaper. Quit smoking immediately upon my first drag on a crappy overpriced analog clone. Started with 18mg, raised it to 24 and left it there. Discovered WTA 9 months into vaping and have vaped it ever since cuz it's yummy.
Do you get better flavors because of the wta? Or it is just the vendor and you have not tried there non wta juice?
 

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Oh yes, I've tried (and still buy) other non-WTA flavors, and like them too. In fact some of them taste better to me without WTA than with, Apple for instance.

Flavor is down the list of things I look for - my main thing is feel. Throat hit, lung-filling, tingly nostrils, things like that. WTA juice provides a more satisfying feel to me.
 
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Oh yes, I've tried (and still buy) other non-WTA flavors, and like them too. In fact some of them taste better to me without WTA than with, Apple for instance.

Flavor is down the list of things I look for - my main thing is feel. Throat hit, lung-filling, tingly nostrils, things like that. WTA juice provides a more satisfying feel to me.
That makes tons of sense. Thanks. I think wta magnifies throat hit and the rest of those thing. I think WTA magnifies some of the tastes in tobacco like P-38. I misread you thinking wta magnifies all flavors which I did not experience. Thanks for clarifying. Do you experience the other two things more with WTA in the juice?
 
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Oh yes, I've tried (and still buy) other non-WTA flavors, and like them too. In fact some of them taste better to me without WTA than with, Apple for instance.

The non-WTA Apple you are speaking of is the same juice offered with WTA? I am not certain if you are saying that the WTA juice has a different flavor or not. I had never tried a flavor I had with WTA, without WTA. I didn't think WTA imparted any flavor? But then again, there would be no way I would know.
 

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The non-WTA Apple you are speaking of is the same juice offered with WTA? I am not certain if you are saying that the WTA juice has a different flavor or not. I had never tried a flavor I had with WTA, without WTA. I didn't think WTA imparted any flavor? But then again, there would be no way I would know.

Don't you suppose everything has flavor? Everything is a chemical. Nicotine has flavor, PG has flavor, VG has flavor and WTA has flavor.
When I was down there I smelled a little flask which contained nicotine and WTA in its most distilled form. It had a smell. Smell equals flavor. Seeing the processing convinced me that the result was a pure as distilled water is pure.

I know there was a spat in which one vendor claimed WTA should impart no flavor, or that any flavor it imparted would be the result of impurities introduced in processing. Makes no sense to me. Why would anybody claim that WTA is/should be flavorless? What, did he stick his finger in pure WTA and lick it? And another thing I've noticed, it may not be a "flavor" change per se, but an experience change. Apple with WTA is less sweet because it's "harsher", as it were.

That makes tons of sense. Thanks. I think wta magnifies throat hit and the rest of those thing. I think WTA magnifies some of the tastes in tobacco like P-38. I misread you thinking wta magnifies all flavors which I did not experience. Thanks for clarifying. Do you experience the other two things more with WTA in the juice?

I haven't experienced a "flavor" magnification if I get what you're asking, but most physical feelings are more pronounced for me - the interior sense of touch.
 

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Don't you suppose everything has flavor? Everything is a chemical. Nicotine has flavor, PG has flavor, VG has flavor and WTA has flavor.
When I was down there I smelled a little flask which contained nicotine and WTA in its most distilled form. It had a smell. Smell equals flavor. Seeing the processing convinced me that the result was a pure as distilled water is pure.

I know there was a spat in which one vendor claimed WTA should impart no flavor, or that any flavor it imparted would be the result of impurities introduced in processing. Makes no sense to me. Why would anybody claim that WTA is/should be flavorless? What, did he stick his finger in pure WTA and lick it? And another thing I've noticed, it may not be a "flavor" change per se, but an experience change. Apple with WTA is less sweet because it's "harsher", as it were.

I always thought high nic liquids tasted better, so maybe it is similar. I wouldn't exactly say that there is a change in flavor per se, based on PG/VG or nic, but the taste seems to be altered -- like a tea with sugar as opposed to tea without; the tea hasn't become a new flavor necessarily, but the taste has changed. "Experience change" makes sense.
 

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I always thought high nic liquids tasted better, so maybe it is similar. I wouldn't exactly say that there is a change in flavor per se, based on PG/VG or nic, but the taste seems to be altered -- like a tea with sugar as opposed to tea without; the tea hasn't become a new flavor necessarily, but the taste has changed. "Experience change" makes sense.

I get more throat hit and crispiness with higher mg nic and wta juice. The taste change is ultra small for me. Is it that way for you?
 

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I get more throat hit and crispiness with higher mg nic and wta juice. The taste change is ultra small for me. Is it that way for you?

I have never had any of the WTA vendors juices without WTA--the juices are good, but I would never buy them for flavor alone. Heck, I would rather buy the WTA by itself and vape it without flavor or add it to other vendor's juices. I hadn't always felt that way, but the more juice I bought from other non-WTA vendors the more I realized what depth of flavor I was after.
 

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I have never had any of the WTA vendors juices without WTA--the juices are good, but I would never buy them for flavor alone. Heck, I would rather buy the WTA by itself and vape it without flavor or add it to other vendor's juices. I hadn't always felt that way, but the more juice I bought from other non-WTA vendors the more I realized what depth of flavor I was after.

Agreed. Depth of flavor is a great way to put it. Makes sense that WTAs would add to the depth of flavor.
 

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I ordered some WTA. I'm one of the ones it has NO effect on. It did not decrease my cigarette craving at all. I have tried it on many separate occasions and even dripped it.

Whose WTA did you try? It may be worth trying both vendors as I have felt a difference between the two. I used to think one way about Vapelicious, but oddly enough, I hadn't even vaped it. Maybe it will not have any effect on you either, but it may be worth a shot. Worst-case scenario, you could always put it up in the classies as I am sure juice from both vendors would sell quickly.
 

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I ordered some WTA. I'm one of the ones it has NO effect on. It did not decrease my cigarette craving at all. I have tried it on many separate occasions and even dripped it.

May I ask how long was your "session" if I may use that word, when you tried it? A few minutes, hours, all day one day?
just curious, thanks :)
 

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I ordered some WTA. I'm one of the ones it has NO effect on. It did not decrease my cigarette craving at all. I have tried it on many separate occasions and even dripped it.

Earlier when I suggested Vapelicious, I would like to add that if you do try Vapelicious, try each level and approach the "extra WTA" with a bit of caution. Another ECF vaper and I have just spoken about it and we both feel that Vapelicious WTA is super strong. I don't mind it so much as I use it supplementally, but if you set some, I would not try and vape myself into a frenzy in an attempt to "feel it." I would recommend this juice for those former, hardcore chain-smokers that smoked more than they breathed! LOL
 
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