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I got my bottle of WTA on Thursday, and have been trying it off and on since then.

I think I'm a bit of an oddball when it comes to the whole cigarette/ecig thing because the majority of the experiences I have read about on ECF simply did not reflect my own, and it's always left me scratching my head because my girly Virginia Slim Menthol Lights didn't seem to qualify me as a hardcore nicotine addict, yet vaping has never been satisfying enough.

Yet, I love everything about e cigs - the flavors, the endless options of hardware, the evolution and innovation, and, of course, the pretty colored lights. :laugh: but e cigs has become a hobby rather than a replacement for smoking.

For some reason, the concept of too much nicotine is foreign to me. No matter how much I've vaped, I've never even remotely had that 'dizzy' or 'buzzed', let alone 'breaking out in a sweat' or feeling a 'rush' - despite pushing the limits of high nic.

Also, I've never found any signification correlation between higher nic + higher voltage = throat hit. I've been around long enough to have read -and tried- a bunch of different theories of what would produce throat hit and for the most part have noticed little to no improvement with any of them.

Suddenly, with WTA, I was getting a consistent throat hit with an 18mg liquid.

I don't usually drip, but I didn't want to waste a drop of WTA, so I've been dripping or using an Ego/510 tank to test drive it, and have tried it alone and mixed with other liquids.

There is something subtle, yet distinctly different than anything I've ever tried before, including that same calming effect that others have mentioned.

WTA has a much different mouth-feel, beyond what could be attribute to it's VG base, and it makes me wonder if the additional alkaloids serve to help the nicotine be more fully absorbed.

Another problem I've had is due to my smoking-corroded taste buds, I've never been able to taste anything but the strongest flavors, yet when mixed 50/50 with a high nic juice, WTA seems to bring out the flavor.

I enjoyed WTA most when mixed with a high nic juice, and even though it enhances the flavor, I think with a higher nicotine level I would like to use WTA alone because I like the purity of the unflavored liquid coupled with the slight sweetness of VG.

A lot of the reviewers have said that they are using it a couple of times a day or when they feel a strong cigarette craving. Initially, I think that I'll need to use it much more often and and I'm hoping that I can eventually taper down to a more occasional use.

I think that when WTA becomes available in larger quantities -and/or higher nic - I may have finally found IT.
 

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Other than hittman’s OP I’ve deliberately avoided reading anyone else’s thoughts, which I will do immediately after posting this.

Although I’ve not had a cigarette in about 17.5 months, I’m one of those who need what’s missing. I’ve never been satisfied with vaping on its own, whether at 24mg or 10mg. [I haven’t tried over 24mg, but I suspect it wouldn’t do the trick.] Almost immediately at cigarette cessation, I supplemented my vaping with snus (thunder frosted extra stark 16mg). I’ve tried to go without snus up to two weeks at a time and it was unpleasant for me and others, to say the least. I’m a bit prickly anyway but I’m sure many dropped the ly from that definition during my snus fasts. Chain vaping didn’t cure my ills – so I’m probably (?) considered a snuser who uses vaping (drip exclusively approx. 3ml per day) as an important supplement.
I’m as satisfied with my vaping hardware/software as I’ve ever been.

Enter WTA:
I’ve read, and reread, DVap’s works during my time at ECF …..then waited…. and hoped. That’s my only biases here – WTA production expectations and I have respect for, and gratitude towards DVap. [He doesn’t know me from Adam.] I’d never communicated with radiokaos until the WTA announcement and I’d never done business with him until I bought a bottle of WTA at the recent sale.

Test time:
I tried the WTA briefly this past Fri. at the end of a looong day. I felt something that made me optimistic. The true test would be Sat. and Sun. with and w/o snus. [Like others, I usually vape more on the weekend.]

Sat.:
For the first 9 hours or so I used WTA (3 drops) at about 2.5 hour intervals along with SL (standard liquid) w/o snus. I did feel less anxious and vaped less than I normally do w/o snus. I popped a snus , had another 3 drops of WTA and did not vape for 4 hours. This wasn’t an intentional test for WTA’s effect. This was a first for me – Even with snus I’ve never gone w/o vaping for 4 hours and felt at peace. [For that matter, I’ve never had this sense of peace since quitting my 40+ year cigarette usage.]

Sun.:
I’ve had similar results, so far, today. The only thing I did different -- I used WTA almost exclusively for the first 6 hours of the day (w/o snus). I used WTA (3 drops) about once per hour. I did use a couple of drops of menthol/mint SL occasionally for taste. I vaped much less than I normally would and the normal effects of vaping w/o snus was lessened, but still there. Time for a snus.

Conclusions:
I got good throat hit. It was sort of like a pleasant tingle on the tongue and at the throat, and was moist on exhale. This batch was VG, so there was plenty of vapor production. And since it was VG there was a slight sweetness to it. I prefer a 80/70 PG to 20/30 VG blend. The most important conclusion for my physiology – Even though this was a small sample I will definitely be a return customer and I look forward to figuring out what version ( nic content, quantity, flavor, PG/VG) will fit into my life.

Vendor:
A big thank you goes to radiokaos for bringing WTA to the marketplace in a responsible manner. He deserves extra recognition for communicating when he was able to and for following through with his announced WTA plan(s) despite his experiencing difficult personal circumstances.


Edit* I've now read the other posts. I know I went a little "like" crazy, but I really appreciate your POV on WTA. :)
 
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These reviews give me hope and that all the stress this last month makes it worth while..

I have said in the past to fellow vapers using my products....if you have a problem or concern with my service or juice please let me know. I will do my best to make sure you are happy and if not I will try to find a solution.

I think "props" need to go out to Dvap for his vision and support.
 
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Hey everyone,
First off, let me clarify that I was a 2PAD 40+ years smoker. I quit analogs when vaping became a serious hobby for me. It just worked. I haven't had the desire for an analog since.
I was one of the lucky ones to order in the first round. Not because I felt I needed it, but because it was a new thing.
I first tried dripping and felt nothing. Was going to try it in a carto until someone posted that they felt it diluted it too much. I really wanted this to work for some reason.
I use a tank mod on my buzz pro and sometimes my new juices just don't taste very good. So somewhere on the forum someone suggested dropping 3 drops of menthol down the center post of the carto to smooth out the flavor without making it overpoweringly menthol. I thought I'd end up with a mouthful of juice, but I gave it a shot and it worked great.
To make a long story short, I tried that procedure with WTA, 3 drops down the center carto tube every 2 to 3 hours. It seem to work for me as I do feel some sort of sensation. I can't describe it exactly, but I do feel relaxed.
If you're a carto user this may help you.

HAPPY VAPING :vapor::vapor::vapor:
 

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I usually start my morning with about twenty minutes of chain vaping 32mg menthol and an extra strong snus(thunder berry 16mg) and that holds me over til around 9 besides maybe a couple more hits on the pv and sometimes a couple pinches of snuff.

I'm with you on the nic, hittman - none of that lightweight stuff. :2cool:
 

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Other than hittman’s OP I’ve deliberately avoided reading anyone else’s thoughts, which I will do immediately after posting this.

Although I’ve not had a cigarette in about 17.5 months, I’m one of those who need what’s missing. I’ve never been satisfied with vaping on its own, whether at 24mg or 10mg. [I haven’t tried over 24mg, but I suspect it wouldn’t do the trick.] Almost immediately at cigarette cessation, I supplemented my vaping with snus (thunder frosted extra stark 16mg). I’ve tried to go without snus up to two weeks at a time and it was unpleasant for me and others, to say the least. I’m a bit prickly anyway but I’m sure many dropped the ly from that definition during my snus fasts. Chain vaping didn’t cure my ills – so I’m probably (?) considered a snuser who uses vaping (drip exclusively approx. 3ml per day) as an important supplement.
I’m as satisfied with my vaping hardware/software as I’ve ever been.

Enter WTA:
I’ve read, and reread, DVap’s works during my time at ECF …..then waited…. and hoped. That’s my only biases here – WTA production expectations and I have respect for, and gratitude towards DVap. [He doesn’t know me from Adam.] I’d never communicated with radiokaos until the WTA announcement and I’d never done business with him until I bought a bottle of WTA at the recent sale.

Test time:
I tried the WTA briefly this past Fri. at the end of a looong day. I felt something that made me optimistic. The true test would be Sat. and Sun. with and w/o snus. [Like others, I usually vape more on the weekend.]

Sat.:
For the first 9 hours or so I used WTA (3 drops) at about 2.5 hour intervals along with SL (standard liquid) w/o snus. I did feel less anxious and vaped less than I normally do w/o snus. I popped a snus , had another 3 drops of WTA and did not vape for 4 hours. This wasn’t an intentional test for WTA’s effect. This was a first for me – Even with snus I’ve never gone w/o vaping for 4 hours and felt at peace. [For that matter, I’ve never had this sense of peace since quitting my 40+ year cigarette usage.]

Sun.:
I’ve had similar results, so far, today. The only thing I did different -- I used WTA almost exclusively for the first 6 hours of the day (w/o snus). I used WTA (3 drops) about once per hour. I did use a couple of drops of menthol/mint SL occasionally for taste. I vaped much less than I normally would and the normal effects of vaping w/o snus was lessened, but still there. Time for a snus.

Conclusions:
I got good throat hit. It was sort of like a pleasant tingle on the tongue and at the throat, and was moist on exhale. This batch was VG, so there was plenty of vapor production. And since it was VG there was a slight sweetness to it. I prefer a 80/70 PG to 20/30 VG blend. The most important conclusion for my physiology – Even though this was a small sample I will definitely be a return customer and I look forward to figuring out what version ( nic content, quantity, flavor, PG/VG) will fit into my life.

Vendor:
A big thank you goes to radiokaos for bringing WTA to the marketplace in a responsible manner. He deserves extra recognition for communicating when he was able to and for following through with his announced WTA plan(s) despite his experiencing difficult personal circumstances.


Edit* I've now read the other posts. I know I went a little "like" crazy, but I really appreciate your POV on WTA. :)

Since I've been asked about this, an update is required.

This is in no way a criticism of WTA. Jerry (and DVap) admirably, have repeatedly attempted to temper any unrealistic expectations for WTA. Everyone's physiology is different.

I've tested under various conditions including using WTA exclusively for several days, but, for me, I've been unable to replicate the full initial effect on me from WTA. I say full because I did continue to sense a minor difference from WTA for a short time.

Was it a placebo effect? Can one's physiology become increasingly tolerant of WTA's effect? Can one's physiology vary enough day to day from other stimuli to increase or diminish WTA's effect?

I don't know the answers, or if I ever will, but thank you DVap and Jerry for bringing this to market. At the least I've learned some things, and for others, WTA might be a solution.
 

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Since I've been asked about this, an update is required.

This is in no way a criticism of WTA. Jerry (and DVap) admirably, have repeatedly attempted to temper any unrealistic expectations for WTA. Everyone's physiology is different.

I've tested under various conditions including using WTA exclusively for several days, but, for me, I've been unable to replicate the full initial effect on me from WTA. I say full because I did continue to sense a minor difference from WTA for a short time.

Was it a placebo effect? Can one's physiology become increasingly tolerant of WTA's effect? Can one's physiology vary enough day to day from other stimuli to increase or diminish WTA's effect?

I don't know the answers, or if I ever will, but thank you DVap and Jerry for bringing this to market. At the least I've learned some things, and for others, WTA might be a solution.

This gives us some insight.

How would you rate your first experience vaping WTA (scale 1-10)

What was the time frame regarding your usage of WTA

What was the frequency of your WTA usage

What was the dosage of your WTA

Were you using flavored or unflavored WTA

I'm sure a few more questions can come to mind. I have been using WTA for about 12 months and most days I still feel the same effect of WTA as I did from day one. Granted the first day gave the greatest impact but I still manage to feel its effects 12 months later. As mentioned before everyone's brain chemistry is different.

I would really like to collect as much data to assess efficacy and dosage. If others have additional input please feel free to post. Maybe I can start a different thread focused only on research that way others who have used WTA can post their comments. This includes WTA purchased from other providers.
 

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    Progg, I believe that everyone's physiology is a bit different. Also I think that things can vary from day to day or week to week. I went thru a period of over a year where I went thru what I call high and low cycles where vaping, snus, and nasal snuff combined weren't enough to keep me from getting that crawling in my skin feeling. Yet other times it didn't require much to keep me level. These cycles would sometimes last a couple days or a few weeks. I speak only from personal experience. I think that like many other things, wta will help some and not others.
     

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    This gives us some insight. SNIP

    Thank you for the interest Jerry.

    Just briefly:

    I've tried the unflavored and each of your flavored over the past, aprox 2.7 months (since your first release).

    Nic ranged from 12 to 24mg. I've tried various frequencies of use including using WTA exclusively for about 1 week and going without WTA for a week(s). The perceived sensation was similar throughout. My daily fluid and snus intake stayed the same as it had pre-WTA. [Although I did intentionally cut back on snus at times as part of my experiment.]

    As I said I do appreciate your interest, but I'm heading in a different direction. I became more conscious of my own usages and requirements as a result of the introduction of WTA, so I deem the experience a success.
     

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    Progg, I believe that everyone's physiology is a bit different. Also I think that things can vary from day to day or week to week. I went thru a period of over a year where I went thru what I call high and low cycles where vaping, snus, and nasal snuff combined weren't enough to keep me from getting that crawling in my skin feeling. Yet other times it didn't require much to keep me level. These cycles would sometimes last a couple days or a few weeks. I speak only from personal experience. I think that like many other things, wta will help some and not others.

    hittman, thank you for providing your experiences. I agree with your assessments : different people = different physiologies = YMMV.
     

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    <snip> I became more conscious of my own usages and requirements as a result of the introduction of WTA, so I deem the experience a success.
    Interesting observation. From that regard my experience is similar...being a WTA guinea pig caused me to become more aware of what I was doing and why; that awareness may have had as much to do with the perceived benefits of WTA as the WTA itself.
     

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    I received the 24mg turkish blend and I have to say that the feeling in the mouth is much like smoking. It gives a little burn in my throat and on the tounge, but it's also a little bitter. I cut mine with just VG to lower the mg a little bit and added some menthol to it. The burn isn't from the menthol though. I didn't put that much in it to even notice it. But, it does considerably relax me. It does give me a little dizzy feeling (which would be more if I vaped it longer). I admit, I don't like the taste, but that really doesn't matter too much. I don't like the taste of any tobacco flavored juice so this is nothing against Aroma Ejuice at all. I will use this when a strong desire for a cigarette comes along which is usually in the morning, after meals and leaving Walmart. ;)

    Thanks so much for making this. I know I will be able to remain smoke free without having to endure the snus induced heartburn and hiccups quite so much. I never thought I could acutally quit. I thought I would die trying and this is a huge help.


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    I received the 24mg turkish blend and I have to say that the feeling in the mouth is much like smoking. It gives a little burn in my throat and on the tounge, but it's also a little bitter. I cut mine with just VG to lower the mg a little bit and added some menthol to it. The burn isn't from the menthol though. I didn't put that much in it to even notice it. But, it does considerably relax me. It does give me a little dizzy feeling (which would be more if I vaped it longer). I admit, I don't like the taste, but that really doesn't matter too much. I don't like the taste of any tobacco flavored juice so this is nothing against Aroma Ejuice at all. I will use this when a strong desire for a cigarette comes along which is usually in the morning, after meals and leaving Walmart. ;)

    Thanks so much for making this. I know I will be able to remain smoke free without having to endure the snus induced heartburn and hiccups quite so much. I never thought I could acutally quit. I thought I would die trying and this is a huge help.


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    Sandy,

    Are you a fan of Menthol? If so...then you must try some P-38. Send me a PM and I will send you a sample of it to try. If you are a menthol fan I can and will guarantee that you will like it.
     

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    From now on I think I'll put my impressions of specific Aroma WTA juices in this thread. I have tended to just post them wherever and if anybody is looking for specific impressions it's a little hard to find. So I'll either put them here initially or paste them in after the fact like below.

    Ok, fresh out of the mailbox and live onstage, here is my first impression of G.I. Joe with WTA, which evidently is a Winston-like concoction. Like I said, I smoked Winstons almost exclusively for most of my life. Also in a twist, this happens to be my 365th day smoke free. :D
    A few minutes ago I put 5 drops on a freshly blown-out 1.8 ohm i06. Have my Kick set at 8.5 watts.
    I'm stalling.
    Here goes:
    Hmm.
    First thing I noticed was a sweetness sorta like a...cherry but that went away quick. Then of course the WTA throat hit. yummy.
    It reminds me of that Havana Golden I'm so fond of but it has a way different thicker warmth to it. I like it! Thank GOD it doesn't taste like a Winston tastes "good" like a cigarette should. Off the topic I still have an unopened pack of Winstons on the back floorboards of my car a year later, tomorrow on my 1st anniversary I'm going to attempt to smoke one just so I can see if it kills me. Then I'm going to vape G.I. Joe and thank God again for vaping saving my life.
    Back on topic, it also reminds me of Turkish Blend.
    Oh, crap, I have to slow down.
    Be back later.
    It's now three hours later.
    G.I. Joe is easily the most cigarette-like juice I've ever tried. Please understand though that replicating a cigarette has never been something I've wanted, and that the juice in no way is nasty smelly bad acrid Winston cigarette.
    It's very strong. The taste is not the strong part, though the taste is great! The juice just *is* strong. If this juice didn't quell the craving a person struggling with vaping had, that person really would have a serious need.
    Aroma's little blurb on the product page conjuring up images of He-Men doing He-Man things is pretty accurate.
    I forgot to mention, my bottle is 26mg nic.

    The next day I vaped G.I. Joe off and on alternating with my beloved Apple. G.I. Joe is a GREAT juice, in every way. Full, satisfying, flavorful. And strong. I actually can NOT just sit and mindlessly vape it. I sit and ENJOY it for a little while, then either quit vaping or vape something else (usually the latter, for I simply love to vape).
    I'm not certain what Winston has to do with it. This juice, like every other juice, is miles away from a burning cigarette. Oddly though, if I smell my atomizer after use, a distinct "ashy" smell is in there, reminiscent of a cigarette.
    I will be buying more of this.
     
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