Xhaler opinion

[Lightgeoduck]

First: I don't own the xhaler,,, but did have it on my list for my collection add-on for 2010

Second: I am not a blind fanboy or a habitual basher, I try to keep it honest and I feel obligated to share my thoughts to people who rely on others comments to make a decision.

Third: I find myself basicly a smart man, I have integrity, and though I come off brash I care about people

Forth: I know this is a old beat down subject, and the only reason I am posting NOW is I wanted to find out which way this review would go...either I bought it and totally backed up the 5v claim or not buy it because of the opposite result


Well I am truely sad to say that I will not be buying the xhaler. it is an educated decision and backed by IMO reliable resources (I will not get in to detail because it seems like it would get twisted anyway)

I am also deeply upset to say I can not ever have ANY dealings with a situation like this at hand.

I am nobody so I understand if I don't influence you one way or the other.
I also know no matter what you say if you don't have personal proof that debunks my review I will not even entertain the idea.

I am always willing to retract any "misinformed" statement, but it will have to be hard facts.

Actual I am not going to entertain any senseless posts... i.e. comments with out true backing.... and even comments on either view that use the past videos as proof... I would like you to remember that is a MOO point because that isn't your proof.

I truly sorry that this was my outcome but I still feel that I had to post it to be true to myself... and to truly support a forum I believe in


drama or whatever.... I have spoken




I am not a Duck

 

[vettepwr]

Maybe I'm missing something but I honestly don't see how this thread will do anymore then serve as flamebait for fanboys and critics on both sides of the xhalver 5v debate (if that even exists anymore).

I myself personally dont have an xhaler at the moment I did however just order one and should receive it today. I do plan on hooking my DVOM and checking the voltage for myself and I will return it should it not function as advertised.

With that being said how can this thread even be titled "review" when you provide absolutely no first hand experience with Xhaler and simply state that you wont buy it based on reliable information that you provide no reference too.

 

[Cherice]

First: I don't own the xhaler,,, but did have it on my list for my collection add-on for 2010

Second: I am not a blind fanboy or a habitual basher, I try to keep it honest and I feel obligated to share my thoughts to people who rely on others comments to make a decision.

Third: I find myself basicly a smart man, I have integrity, and though I come off brash I care about people

Forth: I know this is a old beat down subject, and the only reason I am posting NOW is I wanted to find out which way this review would go...either I bought it and totally backed up the 5v claim or not buy it because of the opposite result


Well I am truely sad to say that I will not be buying the xhaler. it is an educated decision and backed by IMO reliable resources (I will not get in to detail because it seems like it would get twisted anyway)

I am also deeply upset to say I can not ever have ANY dealings with a situation like this at hand.

I am nobody so I understand if I don't influence you one way or the other.
I also know no matter what you say if you don't have personal proof that debunks my review I will not even entertain the idea.

I am always willing to retract any "misinformed" statement, but it will have to be hard facts.

Actual I am not going to entertain any senseless posts... i.e. comments with out true backing.... and even comments on either view that use the past videos as proof... I would like you to remember that is a MOO point because that isn't your proof.

I truly sorry that this was my outcome but I still feel that I had to post it to be true to myself... and to truly support a forum I believe in


drama or whatever.... I have spoken




I am not a Duck

Bummer....you have no idea what you are missing out on...

 

[Lightgeoduck]

Well just to entertain one of your statements vett... I posted it as a review in this section because it is a section that the supplier can respond as well ...so I only think it would be fair for both parties for it to be here... the seller and the buyer

ok maybe two

I feel that it maybe important for some people to see my view

 

[vettepwr]

Well just to entertain one of your statements vett... I posted it as a review in this section because it is a section that the supplier can respond as well ...so I only think it would be fair for both parties for it to be here... the seller and the buyer

ok maybe two

I feel that it maybe important for some people to see my view

Ok I understand your reasoning then for placing it here, and I can respect that as it is only fair to put it in a place where the supplier could defend his product should he desire to.

I still think it would hold more weight however for people genuinely looking for an unbiased review if your post had in fact either cited some of the sources of the information that swayed your purchase decision or if you had in fact had some first hand experience of your own with the device.

I will leave it at that as I have no intention on arguing with you. I do plan on testing my Xhaler when it arrives and posting a review of those finding on the forums. If you have any interest in the results let me know and Ill PM them to you.

 

[truelove]

I believe you have the right to post your opinion just like everyone else here.

 

[lintz69]

But, like, ok....I am confused. I clicked here to see a "review" All I see is you saying "I wanted this, but now no longer do". Unless I missed something (though I read it twice) I don't see anywhere in your post WHY your not ordering? And I don't see why we would care your not ordering? I am not trying to be a smart ... but being serious. I am not going to buy a smoking everywhere...ok??? Me telling everyone that I am not going to buy something and no reasons why, well that don't make sense... Am I missing something here?

 

[Lightgeoduck]

But, like, ok....I am confused. I clicked here to see a "review" All I see is you saying "I wanted this, but now no longer do". Unless I missed something (though I read it twice) I don't see anywhere in your post WHY your not ordering? And I don't see why we would care your not ordering? I am not trying to be a smart ... but being serious. I am not going to buy a smoking everywhere...ok??? Me telling everyone that I am not going to buy something and no reasons why, well that don't make sense... Am I missing something here?

maybe reread my forth

Forth: I know this is a old beat down subject, and the only reason I am posting NOW is I wanted to find out which way this review would go...either I bought it and totally backed up the 5v claim or not buy it because of the opposite result

now do you see?

 

[jongleur]

First: I don't own the xhaler

Well, hey! I don't own an XHaler either, and I think it's absolutely the greatest mod on the market!!!!

Guess how much my fake opinion counts? If you guessed "zero", you won.

If you additionally figured out that the worth of your opinion equals the worth of my opinion, then you got 10 bonus points!

If you further figured out that the reason my opinion and your opinion are both worth zero is that neither of us have ever held the device in question in our REAL hands (instead of our stupid, borrowed, online, conspiracy-theory-influenced, innuendo-formulated, virtual, FAKE hands), then you get the grand prize of having the opportunity to say "Um, oops, never mind. I'll wait till I have actual, real, experience-based information next time I 'share' it on the interwebs."

Grats.

Maybe I'm missing something but I honestly don't see how this thread will do anymore then serve as flamebait for fanboys and critics on both sides of the xhaler 5v debate (if that even exists anymore).

I don't think you're missing anything at all. I think, in fact, that you nailed it.

--John

 

[ZambucaLu]

I moved this since it wasn't a supplier review, as in 'I did business with xyz and had a good or bad experience with them', which is basically what the supplier review forum is for.

I couldn't put it in ecig reviews because that is generally for those who own a product then give a review on it.

So I moved it to the general discussion board.

Lu

 

[Lightgeoduck]

Well, hey! I don't own an XHaler either, and I think it's absolutely the greatest mod on the market!!!!

Guess how much my fake opinion counts? If you guessed "zero", you won.

If you additionally figured out that the worth of your opinion equals the worth of my opinion, then you got 10 bonus points!

If you further figured out that the reason my opinion and your opinion are both worth zero is that neither of us have ever held the device in question in our REAL hands (instead of our stupid, borrowed, online, conspiracy-theory-influenced, innuendo-formulated, virtual, FAKE hands), then you get the grand prize of having the opportunity to say "Um, oops, never mind. I'll wait till I have actual, real, experience-based information next time I 'share' it on the interwebs."

Grats.



I don't think you're missing anything at all. I think, in fact, that you nailed it.

--John

Ok I will give you a partial on that opinion, but I wasn't trying to be sarcastic I do have legit reasons and electronic knowledge to have a semi-legit opinion

but what ever makes you feel good.... If this makes it more legit I asked an owner to send me theirs so I can do the same test
but would that truly satisfy the curious? But I totally understand, minus the sarcasm, the point you are trying to make

I moved this since it wasn't a supplier review, as in 'I did business with xyz and had a good or bad experience with them', which is basically what the supplier review forum is for.

I couldn't put it in ecig reviews because that is generally for those who own a product then give a review on it.

So I moved it to the general discussion board.

Lu

Sorry I thought it would be fair to leave the option for the owner to post

I also thought it was a review about supplier business... because if I had different results I would have bought it from the supplier... but I respect your decision.....

I have a question though when I get the product even if it isn't from the supplier can it be considered a review? or will that still leave doubt because of the "it needs to be fixed" scenario would pop up?

I will follow the rules that are set forth, but I do think no matter how loved a product is...all aspects have to be considered.

if I am out of line please don't hesitate to pm me LU

 

[jongleur]

Ok I will give you a partial on that opinion, but I wasn't trying to be sarcastic I do have legit reasons and electronic knowledge to have a semi-legit opinion

but what ever makes you feel good.... If this makes it more legit I asked an owner to send me theirs so I can do the same test
but would that truly satisfy the curious? But I totally understand, minus the sarcasm, the point you are trying to make

Maybe it's just me, but you seem just a touch more sensible now. Yes (IMO), if you honestly tested a borrowed unit, that would qualify you as a bona-fide reviewer.

BTW, thanks for noticing the sarcasm, but no need to "minus" it.

Also BTW, I'm not looking to "feel good", since I don't have even a ghost of a dog in this (what I consider a silly) race. I do get the 5V controversy on this unit, having followed it since its inception, and certainly have not myself formed a hard opinion on it -- but I decided to address, in a sideways manner, the political circus of it all.

Nevertheless, if you yourself acquire real experience of it (actual vaping on it and/or electronic testing of it), and you report it here, I for one will be sure to dutifully file it in the little place in my little brain that is reserved for the question "Is the XHaler for real or not?"

Fair enough?

--John

 

[ZambucaLu]

Sorry I thought it would be fair to leave the option for the owner to post

I also thought it was a review about supplier business... because if I had different results I would have bought it from the supplier... but I respect your decision.....

To me, your post basically sounded like 'I decided not to buy the xhaler' because you don't think it will work based on what you've seen? Not even sure how Drew could respond to that other than a 'ok, your choice' type of thing....or did you expect him to come on and once again revive the conversation on how it does work properly? Obviously, we don't need that topic to be reiterated once again.

I have a question though when I get the product even if it isn't from the supplier can it be considered a review? or will that still leave doubt because of the "it needs to be fixed" scenario would pop up?

Any ecig product, regardless of who sells it, can be reviewed in the ecig review board. Now if you review one and say something like 'this thing doesn't work like it's supposed to', the supplier does have the option of requesting the thread be moved to the suppliers reviews board so he can respond.

That board is not really meant for ecig reviews....but it is a means for a supplier to respond whereas he would not be able to if it were in the reviews forum.

So technically, that board is really for people to brag about good supplier service...or rant about bad supplier service. It is meant for members to be able to see supplier reviews right away....plus it gives Admin a chance to see them as well in case something is getting carried away (as you know sometimes happens).

So product reviews should still remain in the reviews board unless the supplier requests for the move to respond. And that is why I moved this one because to me, you have reached a decision based on various information but it's really not a case where you own the product, are reviewing it....and perhaps the supplier would like to comment to refute some of the claims.

I will follow the rules that are set forth, but I do think no matter how loved a product is...all aspects have to be considered.

if I am out of line please don't hesitate to pm me LU

No, you're not out of line. I'm actually just trying to clarify the purpose of that board. It may help others to understand as well.

Lu

 

[Lightgeoduck]

Maybe it's just me, but you seem just a touch more sensible now. Yes (IMO), if you honestly tested a borrowed unit, that would qualify you as a bona-fide reviewer.

BTW, thanks for noticing the sarcasm, but no need to "minus" it.

Also BTW, I'm not looking to "feel good", since I don't have even a ghost of a dog in this (what I consider a silly) race. I do get the 5V controversy on this unit, having followed it since its inception, and certainly have not myself formed a hard opinion on it -- but I decided to address, in a sideways manner, the political circus of it all.

Nevertheless, if you yourself acquire real experience of it (actual vaping on it and/or electronic testing of it), and you report it here, I for one will be sure to dutifully file it in the little place in my little brain that is reserved for the question "Is the XHaler for real or not?"

Fair enough?

--John

I promised myself not to address extraneous posts, but your avatar draws me to... hehe

Yes I will do that as well, but FWIW I got it from a few people that I respect.. and it wasn't to fuel the conspiracy, but to get an unbiased answer.... I wanted to purchase one... but I also have principals and I feel that no matter how much people say its a good unit, or you don't know what you're missing. if it doesn't do what its claimed to do.. its nothing more than a battery holder that I can't give the respect that others are willing to cheer...

again when I test it ... I don't care how much it vapes ...if I get what it claims I will eat my words... post an apology in the sub-forum and ask for it to be stickied.... and purchase the one I wanted.

Of course I am sure it isn't worth a hill of beans to you hehe... but then again I didn't title this Xhaler/nhaler review for jongleur --hehe

 

[jongleur]

I promised myself not to address extraneous posts, but your avatar draws me to... hehe

Yes I will do that as well, but FWIW I got it from a few people that I respect.. and it wasn't to fuel the conspiracy, but to get an unbiased answer.... I wanted to purchase one... but I also have principals and I feel that no matter how much people say its a good unit, or you don't know what you're missing. if it doesn't do what its claimed to do.. its nothing more than a battery holder that I can't give the respect that others are willing to cheer...

again when I test it ... I don't care how much it vapes ...if I get what it claims I will eat my words... post an apology in the sub-forum and ask for it to be stickied.... and purchase the one I wanted.

Of course I am sure it isn't worth a hill of beans to you hehe... but then again I didn't title this Xhaler/nhaler review for jongleur --hehe

Yeah, OK, carry on then...

TQFRAI (top-quoted for redundancy ad infinitum)

--John

 

[Greeneyeddevil]

I don't know anything really about all the voltage business, but that aside, this is our recent experience with the xhaler. My bf just got one in a few days ago. He's an electrician and he said for hoots and giggles he wanted to put it on his meter and test it out to see how the voltage thing works, but I don't think he's gotten to it yet. Otherwise, we decided to check it out because we just aren't getting enough out of our 510s anymore so we needed something with more power. I will say that from what we've used it we think it is a fine pv. We get a very easy draw off it without making an effort, tons of vapor, and a great throat hit. I can actually hit it a couple times and walk away and leave it for awhile, whereas with my 510 I am puffing away constantly now and not getting any satisfaction. Not really what you were looking for I am sure, but for what we were looking for it is definitely serving its purpose. If the bf finally tests it out as far as voltage goes I'll let ya know his findings.

 

[SNM]

Hey Duck I dont get it but I do like some of your past reviews. But this one I just dont get. As there is no review at all. Thats like I will review the Juicebox and have yet to try or test one???? Sure it looks like a great product and I am on the wate list for one as we speak but I can not give a informed review without haveing tryed the product..
That is like you reviewing apple pie < you have never tryed apple pie but have heard alot about it> How on earth can you make a acurate review based on what others think or say about it. Those video's ????? Who knows what the motovies ehind the videos where? Anyway I love my Xhaler and do not regret my purchase one bit. A matterr of fact I bought mine despite the controversy and am happy I did. Dont drink the koolade

 

[MHR7331]

I'm guessing LGD noticed what many others did about Drew's demonstration video - with the cap loosened and supposedly applying 6v to the atty, there was 0.1 variance in the reading - now go watch David's loaded voltage test of the Super T, specifically when he measures the batteries.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

OK I am going to try to explain it to the ones that don't get it... I know I have trouble sometimes with the typed word

1. Just because I don't have it doesn't mean I don't know people that have tested it I am not saying that juice tastes nasty because my friend says it does... electronics is not subjective
2. the basic concepts of electronics doesn't add up
3. it may vape well,,, but there are other PVs that do as well...principal is what I am talking about. isn't it important for a product to do everything it claims to do....just because it isn't important to you ...doesn't mean it shouldn't be important
So if you don't care either way then don't cloud this thread, please

I get a headache thinking about how people think this is crazy for me to do
Ok maybe review isn't the best term to use... but I did review what others have done and researched. NOONE that has backed it actually said it does it (not counting Drew.. if I am wrong on that statement and you have actually proved it PM me)

Like I said I am receiving one to test... but what will happen after that..am I doing this in vain.... am I the only one that thinks this should be resolved... Will everyone just go their marry way and act like nothing happened?

I wish someone more articulate than I could explain how important I see this should be... I just don't think the "I don't care I am satisfied",or "Just don't get it .. or return it" mentality is that kosher IMO

 

[Katmar]

I may be wrong, but, as I see it, you are dissing a product BEFORE trying it,, then, announcing you will try it, (borrowed from someone), THEN do a review???? And if it is good, you will eat your words? Why not just WAIT until it is in your hands for testing?
Why create discourse without benefit of trying the product, no matter WHAT someone else said? Now, if you BELIEVE what personX said, then you would have NO reason to test it. In which case, you just don't buy it. Instead, you create a review based on NOT trying a product.
I agree a product should be tested to see if it works properly. But you haven't done that. You are GOING to do that, but you have prejudged a product based on what people told you. That is not a review.
Color me confused....