Yet another explosion
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The best part is when they get upset because someone else is labeled. [emoji23]
Really?
What do you care that XXXVape.com wants to call me an advanced user so they can warn you you might want to have some knowledge before purchasing a product?
A warning you're likely not taking If you're upset about my label.
Excuse me. I have to go rip up my license, credit cards, birth certificate, a half dozen different forms of identification and clearance cards then I'm disowning my mother.
How DARE them call me a name!!!
Tapatyped
Would 35.5 million suit you better?
I just don't think you've thought this through.
Which despite appearances, apparently, isn't the same as a straw man argument.
Tapatyped
Im just not for regulations due to the lowest common denominator being to lazy to learn to safely operate a tool before shoving it in their mouth or in their pocket.
Just seems like common sense.
Silly me.
Do normal people regularly suck on electrical devices without understanding what they are these days?
Is this a new thing? Like twerking?
Just seems like common sense.
Silly me.
Do normal people regularly suck on electrical devices without understanding what they are these days?
Is this a new thing? Like twerking?
I'm a teacher and it's been my experience that approximately one in ten families do not have the internet (in line with the statistics). Perhaps a few are Luddites, but generally speaking most are low income families. Low income people smoke and low income people wish to quit as well. All I'm saying (again) is that everyone who buys high drain batteries should be warned of the hazards. It's really kind of a no-brainer, as far as I'm concerned.
There is not one shred of evidence, in ANY of the publicized mod or battery "explosions", that the user didnt have internet access.
Strawman argument.
Look closer at the "victims".
There is a pattern alright, but it isnt a lack of available information or warnings.
Well you cleanly don't understand my agreement, so I'm going to step off this marry-go-round for now.
@Bad Ninja I just caught your candidate for president. Why does that not surprise me.
Just doin' what I can with what Ive got.
I totally understand your argument, I just dont think its relevant to the problem.
The people we have actually seen in the news grenading cells, have easier access to safety info than I do.
There isnt any evidence they are the low income, internet deprived families you are referring to.
And what evidence do you have that they had access to the pertinent information they needed to be safe? I don't know if each person who was in the news had this information or not. My argument is not based on this. I'm just saying that everyone should be handed the information they need so we don't have to second guess if they had this information or not. The fewer accidents, the better it is for us, the vaping public. Once again, common sense. If they had the information they needed and chose to ignore it, it's all on them. Are you going to stop everyone from acting carelessly? Of course not, but we can make a dent in stopping those who are behaving dangerously because they lack the information that the need. Education is not a bad thing. This is all common sense and it's in all of our best interests, including yours.
I really have a hard time understanding why people take sides that are counter to their own best interests.
I really have a hard time understanding why people take sides that are counter to their own best interests.
Im saying they already ARE handed the information.
Its obviously there for those that care to look.
The problem is that they feel they dont have to look.
Spoon feeding of grown adults isnt going to make the world a safer place.
Quite the opposite.
A lack of critical thinking skills is the problem.
Apparantly so is self education/basic research skills.
Relpace "safe battery" use with safe "power drill" use and see how silly this argument becomes.
Point one is not always true and we've already gone over the rest ad nauseam.
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Or safe microwave use.
Sooner or later someone is going to want financial reimbursement for microwaving their batteries.
And they're going to get it.
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Unfortunately for us there's a simple effective way to stop these accidents from happening. Just ban mech mods, or better still all removable battery mods. The people with the power to make rules would love that idea. Especially when the corporate interests that grease their wheels want exactly that to happen, and are energetically using their media clout to bring battery incidents into the public awareness.
I don't know what we can do to stop the train that's coming our way. It looks like the industry and advocacy groups and vendors are choosing to talk their language and encourage warnings and information, suggesting that they take the problem seriously and are willing to do what it takes to fix the problem. I think they are right to do that.
When I started vaping I sucked up every bit of information I could find. If it was me age 18 I would have gone to the shop and grabbed the biggest baddest looking gear on the shelf and learning how to use it safely wouldn't have been part of my calculations. I took a lot of bumps and bruises back then, needless to say. That's how most people learn. Maybe not most, but a lot. Limiting our response to pointing that out might be satisfying, but not a great strategy for winning this particular battle.
Non-removeable batteries were in the galaxy note 7.
And won't stop everyone.
In 6th grade, I was the only kid in any of my classes on the football team and possibly the only one to get bumps and bruises.
You see, they put me in the smart classes. And those kids had already learned not to take stupid chances.
Me? I was more interested in having fun at all costs.
I broke both my wrists that year.
Tapatyped
Lol easy comrad. Not gonna happen.
Just see Apple and their exoloding laptops, before that it was Dell.
No bans.
No lawsuit payouts.
No BS blame game.
Apple released a statement saying with Lithium batteries its "expected behavior".
Lucky for us, we dont live under a dictator or communist regime.
At 18 I worked a full time job using very dangerous manufacturing equipment.
Had I been as careless with my safety as you claim you were, I would have lost a finger.
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Something that really bothers me is some vape shops not informing their customers on the dangers of certain mods and battery safety. I have found a few people at my work that rely on shop owners and workers to help them purchase the correct equipment to keep them safe and off cigarettes. I have seen two people using these new two battery mods that can fire up to 220 watts and they think it's totally safe because "it's a regulated mod". I ask them what batteries they are using and where did they get them from and they pull out some re wrap that says it's good for 40 amps and 3200 mah, and they purchased this at the local vape shop. Between the all these misinformed customers and mod makers that allow there devices fire way to high to be within any cdr rating of legit batteries are the reason we will continue to see more of these battery explosions on the news.
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Schumer is a clown.
If a court ordered ban or recall is enacted it will set legal precedent for a recall of every model of laptop, cell phone or tablet that has had a meltdown.
Its posturing from a known political showman.
Wont happen.
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