The one good place to buy vape gear around here is a cigar shop but its a store that sells something i want, What do i care if they sell a product im not interested in? Like every other store in the world.
Your thoughts on B&M's that sell tobacco?
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The one good place to buy vape gear around here is a cigar shop but its a store that sells something i want, What do i care if they sell a product im not interested in? Like every other store in the world.
I have visited two shops that sell tobacco, ....s, hookahs and vape stuff along with other assorted smoking paraphernalia. Besides the "hippy" crowd, which I may have resembled in the '60s and '70s, I found the vape gear to be more expensive than other vape only B & M's. They did not allow smoking, but, vaping was acceptable. The folks behind the counter with the clouds I was producing, and I explained I was no cloud chaser. I let them take a few draws on my Reo using the little condoms on their juice bar attys. They were impressed enough to let me have a bottle of juice if I promised to come back and let them try it on what they called a real device.
More power to them if they introduce someone to vaping!
More power to them if they introduce someone to vaping!
I wonder if these same people will stop going to gas stations or anywhere else where ejuice is sold, in the event that they quit vaping. Crazy.
I think it is that elitist attitude that will end up hurting the industry. Sometimes when I walk into a vape store, I get the impression that unless I am running some mod that is pushing out enough power to light a small city and can generate a large enough cloud to fill a stadium, then I'm not really vaping and I should be looked down on. I couldn't care less about putting out clouds. I care about being able to get enough nicotine, and fulfill the need of the sensation of smoking, that will keep me from smoking, and doing it in the easiest way possible.
The news media are already playing into this. Every time there is a news report talking about vaping (whether they are talking about the growing popularity, or about how dangerous it is when a battery exploded), they never portray an image of a vaper as someone who sees it as a viable (and often times the only successful) way of quitting smoking, They always portray the vaper as some 18 to 20 something year old, baseball cap wearing, hip hop music listening, dressing either as a punk rocker with green hair and a thousand piercings or as a gangsta gang banger wannabe, fresh off of the Fast and Furious movie set who is putting out an insane cloud with a mech mod and dripper, not the vaper as some 40 or 50 year old business man (or woman) with a good job, kids, works hard to pay their bills and see that their kids have clothes on their back and food on the table and simply want to be able to see their kids grow up and give them grandkids (granted I am describing two extremes here to make my point). They don't point out the success stories we read here about people who was able to quit a 20, 30 or 40 year old habit, they point out the "counter culture" and how more and more young people are vaping because now it is the cool thing to do. By pushing that image, it makes it easier and easier to get the public to impose further restrictions on vaping simply because the public won't empathize with the vaper, they see them as the punk kid who they hate anyway because he always drives down your street with his car stereo blasting at ear drum shattering decibels and anything to make their life more miserable would be fine with them.
The news media are already playing into this. Every time there is a news report talking about vaping (whether they are talking about the growing popularity, or about how dangerous it is when a battery exploded), they never portray an image of a vaper as someone who sees it as a viable (and often times the only successful) way of quitting smoking, They always portray the vaper as some 18 to 20 something year old, baseball cap wearing, hip hop music listening, dressing either as a punk rocker with green hair and a thousand piercings or as a gangsta gang banger wannabe, fresh off of the Fast and Furious movie set who is putting out an insane cloud with a mech mod and dripper, not the vaper as some 40 or 50 year old business man (or woman) with a good job, kids, works hard to pay their bills and see that their kids have clothes on their back and food on the table and simply want to be able to see their kids grow up and give them grandkids (granted I am describing two extremes here to make my point). They don't point out the success stories we read here about people who was able to quit a 20, 30 or 40 year old habit, they point out the "counter culture" and how more and more young people are vaping because now it is the cool thing to do. By pushing that image, it makes it easier and easier to get the public to impose further restrictions on vaping simply because the public won't empathize with the vaper, they see them as the punk kid who they hate anyway because he always drives down your street with his car stereo blasting at ear drum shattering decibels and anything to make their life more miserable would be fine with them.
Local b&m we have here doesn't sell tobacco but they have a huge jar of peoples last packs, which I don't see at say franchise type b&m.
The tobacco store and gas stations around here do sell mostly I believe were ego starter kits and the disposable kinds. The eliquids they have are all 24mg. Heck the gas station at Walmart was selling a single disposable for Ten cents when you bought a pack of cigarettes.
The tobacco store and gas stations around here do sell mostly I believe were ego starter kits and the disposable kinds. The eliquids they have are all 24mg. Heck the gas station at Walmart was selling a single disposable for Ten cents when you bought a pack of cigarettes.
If selling tobacco products helps them pay the bills while they also sell Vape goods then more power to them.
...especially if the alternative is to close the doors for lack of enough income to keep the lights on and the door open.
I never could understand the attitude of "Ex"s. Some of the most ignorant people I've encountered prior to vaping (when I still smoked) were ex smokers who thought that now that they quit their turds no longer stunk.
...especially if the alternative is to close the doors for lack of enough income to keep the lights on and the door open.
I never could understand the attitude of "Ex"s. Some of the most ignorant people I've encountered prior to vaping (when I still smoked) were ex smokers who thought that now that they quit their turds no longer stunk.
Is it just the vaping community that gets so snobby? I wonder how many people on the Atkins Diet forum are saying they'll never go to Kroger because they sell bread.
I get the impression that most vapers are ANTZ without the T. Which may be why I tend to talk down to a lot of guys at times. I just have absolutely no respect or use for a zealot no matter who's side they are on.
I also think some companies are run by the same type of zealot, and that a few others realize just how vocal they can be and distance themselves from tobacco because they fear it might affect the bottom line.
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In this thread, I haven't seen anyone be snobby about it. I wonder, Oberon, if your facebook groups need to go by the wayside 
So far I think most of the responses on this thread are more on the line of "who cares".
As for me? Let them do what they need to do to pay their bills and make some money. Eventually, if allowed, vaping will replace smoking and if having tobacco next to vaping, hopefully someone will see someone else vaping while in there and get curious.
So far I think most of the responses on this thread are more on the line of "who cares".
As for me? Let them do what they need to do to pay their bills and make some money. Eventually, if allowed, vaping will replace smoking and if having tobacco next to vaping, hopefully someone will see someone else vaping while in there and get curious.
Their store, their choice. If it's a great shop for mods and accessories, I don't care. I've seen shops sell ....s and other paraphernalia and, again, it's their choice. If it's a crappy shop, I won't return.
that would make them anti nicotine zealots. Which we are most certainly not.
Unless we all vape with zero nic I think that at first we kind of have to distance ourselves from the tobacco. A lot of us were so far down the rabbit hole of smoking and couldn't see the light to guide our way out. Some of us needed to be in order to solidify that to keep us from going back.
As that time away from smoking grows longer, and what we learn about the lies that the true ANTZ have put out about smoking, we come to the realization that this is life. Live and let live.
Hey just my observations I have quit at least 8 times in my 42+ years of smoking and you know who I avoided?? The quitters of course, they can be some of the meanest and seemingly uncompassionate people I have met. I hope this is my last quit lol but if it is not who am I to look down on others that are trying to quit themselves or are not ready yet to quit. I have been there I know how hard it is as most of us do
and as for a B&M selling dual I have no problem with it - if I did I would just not go there plenty more out there or online sites
and as for a B&M selling dual I have no problem with it - if I did I would just not go there plenty more out there or online sites
My one group represents my local vape community and there have been some big, nasty debates every time it's mentioned until a moderator jumps in and cleans everything up because they have a no bash policy when it comes to local B&M's and or juice companies.In this thread, I haven't seen anyone be snobby about it. I wonder, Oberon, if your facebook groups need to go by the wayside
So far I think most of the responses on this thread are more on the line of "who cares".
As for me? Let them do what they need to do to pay their bills and make some money. Eventually, if allowed, vaping will replace smoking and if having tobacco next to vaping, hopefully someone will see someone else vaping while in there and get curious.
But what the B&M said about Five Pawns is very real and out of their 60 or so locations, Five Pawns only lets them sell in three since the store is called Mr Vapor and not Wild Bills Tobacco.
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I "appreciate" the separation for me. So many lump the two together and tobacco is poorly viewed. My needs are THR...first. So, tobacco, cigars, roll-your-own, etc. just doesn't seem worthwhile since I felt the benefits to vaping.
Just me.
Just me.
Depends on how they quit. If it was a brutal experience then they are very likely to behave as you described.
For political reasons probably yes.
Otherwise, I am all for the option that it continues to exist and I could be able to roll a fat one some day when my fancy would strike so.
I don't really care one way or the other, I buy so little from B&Ms; maybe a driptip now and then, maybe some juice in a real emergency (the emergency being that USPS let me down, AS USUAL).
What I do find laughable are the stores that primarily cater to other things -- adult toys, paraphernalia for "other stuff," and even shops that are essentially just tobacco shops, trying to sell anything vape-related -- they're wildly overpriced, they're usually just plain crap, and no one in that store knows a single thing about them -- they're just trying to cash in on "the new craze." Ditto all that for Walmart, whom I hear has entered the vape market.
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What I do find laughable are the stores that primarily cater to other things -- adult toys, paraphernalia for "other stuff," and even shops that are essentially just tobacco shops, trying to sell anything vape-related -- they're wildly overpriced, they're usually just plain crap, and no one in that store knows a single thing about them -- they're just trying to cash in on "the new craze." Ditto all that for Walmart, whom I hear has entered the vape market.
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It all depends on where you live. Here in the Detroit area, we have a pretty amazing B&M market. Prices are generally a bit more to cover overhead but that's pretty much the only con.I don't really care one way or the other, I buy so little from B&Ms; maybe a driptip now and then, maybe some juice in a real emergency (the emergency being that USPS let me down, AS USUAL).
What I do find laughable are the stores that primarily cater to other things -- adult toys, paraphernalia for "other stuff," and even shops that are essentially just tobacco shops, trying to sell anything vape-related -- they're wildly overpriced, they're usually just plain crap, and no one in that store knows a single thing about them -- they're just trying to cash in on "the new craze." Ditto all that for Walmart, whom I hear has entered the vape market.
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