Zen on the ZNA DNA 30 and future plans - notes from Nova appearance

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Zen (Mike Morgan), House of Hybrids, was on Nova Broadcasting on Cigar Babe's show last night well into the wee hours. I jotted down a few notes but not on everything he said. He talked about the ZNA and other things in the works.

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Zen's new ZNA (Zen's Next Advancement) will come with a dna 30. It will work with a coil with oHms as low as .3 with an 18650 battery. The 18650 tube is an extra add-on for the ZNA's standard 18490 configuration.

The body is milled from a solid block of stainless steel (takes 27 minutes to mill). It has a media blasted finish. ZenKote (nano particle vapor deposition coating) nor other finishes are currently in the works for the ZNA body aside from the intro version. However, Zen is in love with the gun metal gray and didn't rule out other finishes in the future. Sadly, it didn't sound like any will be offered soon aside from the intro version.

There are only 50 of the intro edition available priced at $320. It is gun metal gray & bronze ZenKote. It will be nigh on impossible to get one of those. The standard stainless version will be $279.

New dna 30 features aside from the higher power limit:

  • Power setting lock
  • Faster screen display fade than the dna 20
  • Custom boot screen replaces the screen that reads battery check. Boot screen will display Zen ZNA + serial number. The SN feature is exclusive to the ZNA and replacement DNA 30 boards for the ZNA will not have a SN.
  • There still is no buck circuit so the lowest power remains 7 watts. :(

Zen didn't have the boards until late and ran into some manufacturing glitches so the standard ZNAs probably won't go out until tomorrow. The arbor press for the DNA 30 board had to be retooled and the pin for the rocker switch was too large. Both issues have now been fixed. The first run is 1,000 and should go out in a little over a week.

Zen is going for a total production run of 5,000. His costs won't be covered until they sell 1,500 to 1800.

Zen is currently working with ePipeMods on something that they originally hoped would be out by Xmas. He also hinted at interesting things in the works with Provape but gave no hints of what that might be.

Zen has been working with Matt Bradley of the TV show Deadliest Catch to develop a waterproof, shockproof mod and is aiming to offer it in a 6,000 mAh mechanical. If a mod can withstand the tortures of Alaska crab fishing there wouldn't be much it couldn't survive. Zen is hoping for a late summer, early fall release. It will be very expensive.

I was more than half asleep when Zen was talking about his new mechanical ($110) that he plans on releasing at one of the large upcoming vape meets (Vapefest?). I didn't catch all the features but it will have a recessed bottom switch that can be purchased separately. It might come in side switch configuration that can be flipped to be on the top or bottom but I missed hearing that part.

Cigar Babe said that the Zen broadcast would be up on Nova Broadcasting or YouTube today but I couldn't find it. If they put it up it will be over four hours long. :(
 
The picture you posted is of the launch day special edition of which only 35 were being made available to ElectronicStix.com and are going to sell for $320. The standard edition is stainless steel with ZenKote gunmetal buttons and listed to go for $279.

I'm wondering how the device can fire down to 0.3ohms when the Evolv website lists that the DNA30 chip only will fire down to 0.5ohms. Is Evlov just padding the numbers to be safe?
 

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The picture you posted is of the launch day special edition of which only 35 were being made available to ElectronicStix.com and are going to sell for $320. The standard edition is stainless steel with ZenKote gunmetal buttons and listed to go for $279.

Zen said that there were 50 of the intro version. I don't know why the discrepancy between what Zen said and the 35 that ELECTRONICSTIX indicates on their site. Zen didn't make any mention of holding any units back.

I'm wondering how the device can fire down to 0.3ohms when the Evolv website lists that the DNA30 chip only will fire down to 0.5ohms. Is Evlov just padding the numbers to be safe?

Zen mentioned the .3 oHm limit more than once. However, he did condition it with the 18650 battery configuration each time. That said, if the .3 oHm limit is important to someone they should definitely contact House of Hybrids or Evolv.
 
Zen said that there were 50 of the intro version. I don't know why the discrepancy between what Zen said and the 35 that ELECTRONICSTIX indicates on their site. Zen didn't make any mention of holding any units back.



Zen mentioned the .3 oHm limit more than once. However, he did condition it with the 18650 battery configuration each time. That said, if the .3 oHm limit is important to someone they should definitely contact House of Hybrids or Evolv.

I'm wondering if the 35/50 discrepancy is that ElectronicStix is getting 35 and the B&M's are getting the other 15? I know that there is an Iowa B&M (Central Iowa ecigs I think) that Zen had personally visited and given rights to sell his stuff as an "authorized dealer." I believe the B&M's will occasionally get special editions as well.
 

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    Zen said that there were 50 of the intro version. I don't know why the discrepancy between what Zen said and the 35 that ELECTRONICSTIX indicates on their site. Zen didn't make any mention of holding any units back.

    Remember that ENS also has 4 B&M's that got some for us locals.

    Oh, and it took 9 seconds for the ZNA's to sell out today.
     
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    They better get these out quick. China has just announced a 30+ watt chip. The market will soon be flooded with way cheaper alternatives.

    I don't see the china equivalents taking too much away from ZNA sales. Those who are looking for a low-cost VW devices probably don't even have the ZNA on their radar.
     

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    Remember that ENS also has 4 B&M's that got some for us locals.

    Oh, and it took 9 seconds for the ZNA's to sell out today.
    Zen said he is shooting for shipping out 100+ ZNAs per day for the first 1,000 so people shouldn't get discouraged if they didn't manage to get one today.

    They better get these out quick. China has just announced a 30+ watt chip. The market will soon be flooded with way cheaper alternatives.
    There always seems to be an entire universe or two between the Chinese announcing a new product, particularly a complex one, and the reality of them actually producing something that works even somewhat correctly.
     

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    They better get these out quick. China has just announced a 30+ watt chip. The market will soon be flooded with way cheaper alternatives.

    As someone who vapes on a chinese 33.3 device - no, I dont consider my Vamo to be competition for a DNA 20 device, nor would I consider a 33.3 that goes up to 30 watts to be competition for a ZNA or oter DNA 30 device.

    These two things do not fill the same role in the market,, and cannot be substituted for one another in such a linear fashion.
     

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    did they say if the chip really helps the battery last longer

    I don't recall Zen mentioning anything about the DNA 30 having better battery efficiency than the DNA 20 but that should be confirmed with Evolv. I was very tired during both of Zen's appearances and could have easily missed something that was said.
     
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