Zenesis Informational/Help thread. Please Post questions and answers here.

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@Smelly-- I'm no expert but your pos posts look normal to me. I cut my wicks about even with the bottom of the screw and havent had a problem with them hitting the cap. as for the hot legs, that has a lot to do with your wick and coil. if using something with a little give to it (ie.. mesh, nextel) you can lean the wick tawards the post to shorten that leg. for ceramics, which i dont have much exp with, i would make the top wrap close to the top.

 

[weinner]

I feel the cap is way to close to the positive screw as well. There is tons of metal that could have been removed in the top cap to give us more room for the wick. My 350 tube is also to long. Mine came with three washers in the switch and still doesn't make contact with the imr battery. Also, with all these washers on the switch, the bottom part of the switch sticks out from the top part. So much that you can see through it and it's really wobbly because the bottom isn't in the top part of the switch.

It just seems not much beta testing was done with these z2.

 

[tybin]

so, does it look like this?
This wick works really well. Otherwise, I'd trim it a tad down:



now ,let's see if I can help with any other questions.
fill hole_-- should be the same. It came with a syringe and 18ga blunt needle. If this is not fitting inside, you should open a ticket.
"rattle"-- that's called "slide" - it's part of the design to allow for run away gassing, should you have a battery that goes haywire. I'm sorry you are frustrated. Hope you get it to your liking soon.

Hey all,
So I'm trying really hard to like my Zen2 but... A couple things I've noticed.
(By the way, I am comparing this to my Zen Atty U)

The top post is higher = coil can't go straight out to my wick. It has to bend down immediately and then start wrapping. I get VERY troublesome hot spots between post and wick if I have to do this. If I make my wick as tall as my positive post screw, then try to put on my cap = it crushes the wick down. Is this supposed to be normal? Pics down below.

I'm trying hard to like this hybrid.

1. Button - hand feel and use is wonky and stiff. Set it on a flat surface and the device leans/rocks.
2. Device is massive compared to size of the battery. (Compare it to a Paps for example and you'll see what I mean)
3. Fill hole is too small. VG needle that works with ZAU doesn't fit Zen2.
4. Positive post is too high. If wick is same height as post = wick crushed by cap.
5. Battery rattle. I mean. I've got high end mods and used a handful of cheaper ones that friends have... this is the only one that rattles out of the box. (I know the batt rattle thing can be a touchy subject and honestly I grew to not mind it. but... like... add it to the other stuff on the list and its just kind of like... really? AND the battery rattles? Maybe I'm just part of a minority of vapers who think a rattling battery is super outdated?)

So anyway. If my positive post is just like defective or something and I can get a replacement or if I can adjust it myself some how and get the wick crushing thing figured out then great. At least if I can get a steady vaping experience from it I can overlook the rest of the dislikes I have about it. If its supposed to be this way and I'm supposed to find some way to maximize its performance the way it is then fine... I just won't like it then and I'll have to come to terms with that. I really want to like it as much as my ZAU and my DIDs and of course my other mods but so far... :/

Anyone got any pointers about this center post/wick crushing issue? (Apologies if anyone else has already mentioned this. I admit I have not read through this thread. Also, maybe I'm just a big dummy and its totally operator error?)

@ weinner: open a ticket. if you have 3 washers and no contact, your tube seems a tad long. sorry. Wish there was more than I could suggest, but the medius has been constant fire so i'm at a loss.

 

[tj99959]

I would definitely contact Jason on the positive post issue. I would not try taking it apart or try adjusting it. That would void the warranty. The zens are not the smallest mod and that's weird that yours leans when you set it down. Maybe contact Jason at ENS on that too. The battery issue is a safety feature. It drives me nuts as well and I just use a old tank oring on my switch.

Email Jason he will take care of you.




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For my 490 tube I just got some Efest IMR 18500 bats .... no rattle. To bad there isn't a way to shim the plastic insulator.

In any case I would never add enough washers that the ground screw stuck up higher then the insulator without pressing the button.

I don't use gennies, so I'm no help with that. Lay it in your lap while watching TV and I'm sure you will figure out why I don't use them.

 

[smelly]

TJ,
That's what coffee tables are for

Thanks all.

Relieved yet saddened I'm not alone in my experience. It's seeming more and more the Zen line just isn't for me.

"It just seems not much beta testing was done..." Unless there is something wrong with mine... Agreed.

Maybe someone will release a better button... release telescoping body (eliminate rattle), release a 510/Zspec adapter so I can use other attys (to bypass abnormally short wick requirement)... Well dang that's just like... A totally different device that happens to use Zspec threading...

I'm still hoping there is something wrong with mine. I really wanted team Zen to knock this out of the park... To rival the Greek's devices and stock availability... Relative to other highend and cheap vape toys... It's just... Dang it! Please let there be something wrong here.

I hope this isn't seen as a rant or anything. I really hate posting anything that could be taken negatively. If no one else feels way I do then maybe there's till hope that something is just wrong with mine.

Positive post/Wick: Thanks Tybin and Boa - Yup that looks like what I do to get it working. Similar but less so with the ZattyU. Notice side by side shot the ZAU has more open space around the post. Alternatively my other attys look pretty and are a breeze.

Button: I get misfires and have to push HARD most of the time. Press till it stops then squeeze again to get quality vape. Just something I've been adapting to.

Weinner, I think "wobble" is perfect descriptor. Set on a table next to other mods the Zen2 always slightly leaning one way or another because wobbly button.

Batt rattle: I read that they sell battery rattle as a safety feature... Just for my own curiosity - Does anyone know how more safe it is than just vent holes? And is that difference dangerous enough to be an actual concern? I read somewhere that the first designs ended up not matching new AW batt sizes. Instead of adjusting the Zen design they let it rattle... and THEN called it a safety feature. That would stink if that were true and I very much hope not.

I used Orings in mine as well. Then got used to the rattle. Unfortunately for the Zen when you pick up another device after Zen you are reminded of what it feels like to NOT have a rattling battery.

Fill whole: I use a bigger needle. It fits ZAU but not Zen2. (I believe this also effects wicking but that's a different topic).

Also, anyone noticing thin lines on the body... looks like the machining process left marks around the body. Do other Z2s have this? Pics below, notice just above the button.

Thanks again all. Holding onto hope here.

 

[tj99959]

Can't you put this top cap on your tube?
ElectronicStix.Com · Zenesis 2 System 510 connector with 24K Gold Plated Contacts

As for fixing my switch. I put this spring in mine. Installed upside down, which is really right side up for that kind of switch.
AltSmoke.com - BB/Alpha - Replacement Hot Spring

I made a spring to see if my idea worked, and it did. So I got the Altsmoke spring which is a better conductor than the wire I used.

But ... I agree, maybe Mike should work at perfecting one design instead of trying to design a dozen.

 

[smelly]

That 510 cap will work but then I'd just be using the mod and I've got other mods that are... ahem... gulp... better than the Zen2 mod. If I start replacing whole pieces of this "high end" hybrid then... I'd rather just try and sell it to get my money back and buy something totally different.

I'd almost feel bad selling it to anyone though... I could never be a used car salesmen. Those holes in the hood? Oh those are speed holes... They make the car go faster...

 

[smelly]

That 510 cap will work but then I'd just be using the mod and I've got other mods that are... ahem... gulp... better than the Zen2 mod. If I start replacing whole pieces of this "high end" hybrid then... I'd rather just try and sell it to get my money back and buy something totally different.

I'd almost feel bad selling it to anyone though... I could never be a used car salesmen. Those holes in the hood? Oh those are speed holes... They make the car go faster...

 

[mtpleasantaint]

Anyone have luck fitting a kayfun flush on to the z2 510 connector? any tips?

 

[Paradisevap]

smelly, It looks alil like your Tank may me a hair short this to would alow the cap to sit to low. The Battery Space was always in the design if you look thru the 101 and info threads in the ENS sections it should tell you the FEW reasons its there. Make sure when you use your Switch you push staright in and tilt the Button to the Side this is the "soft" then full connect feature which keeps the switch clean longer then most if your putting the washers under to defeat this your going to make the connection worse.

 

[smelly]

Thanks Paradise! Time to scour google images for a comparison. Anyone feel like posting a closeup pic of their Zenesis2 tank with the top cap on?

So do you mean that the wobble in the button is supposed to be there and that it should fire oddly (for lack of a better word)? I mean the whole push in then tilt button for good contact. Is this why there is so much side-to-side play in the button?

 

[doats81]

So do you mean that the wobble in the button is supposed to be there and that it should fire oddly (for lack of a better word)? I mean the whole push in then tilt button for good contact. Is this why there is so much side-to-side play in the button?

Yeah. That's correct


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[Paradisevap]

But unless really needed putting more then a washer or 2 in makes the wobble worse. Also batteries are alil different alil even in the same batch

 

[Paradisevap]

PS measure the length of your tank that measurement is also in the ens/Zen info/101 threads here on ecf

 

[tybin]

Thanks Paradise! Time to scour google images for a comparison. Anyone feel like posting a closeup pic of their Zenesis2 tank with the top cap on?

So do you mean that the wobble in the button is supposed to be there and that it should fire oddly (for lack of a better word)? I mean the whole push in then tilt button for good contact. Is this why there is so much side-to-side play in the button?

 

[TalkingCactus]

Thanks Paradise! Time to scour google images for a comparison. Anyone feel like posting a closeup pic of their Zenesis2 tank with the top cap on?

Hi Smelly!

Hope this is what you're looking for. Hahaha... I like your SN, good for a laugh anytime!

Sorry I'm a little late, hope this helps ya.

 

[smelly]

Thanks all.

TC,
Thanks I like your SN too. It's usually time to go home or go further once you see the talking cactus It's a little hard to see but when I zoom in your tank looks like mine I think. That is, if you look at the top base, you see more metal under the top Oring.

Tybin, your center post looks like mine too. Kind of hard to tell the difference between the Zau and the Zen2 unless you put them next to each other. The Zen2 post definitely looks like it is extending up in the 510 shaft. The Zau looks to be just under the shaft.

Well dang it... Things just keep pointing to me thinking this thing kinda... Um... How do I put this gently? Just... Dang. I think I've got my answers. Thanks amigos.

 

[Paradisevap]

Thanks all.

TC,
Thanks I like your SN too. It's usually time to go home or go further once you see the talking cactus It's a little hard to see but when I zoom in your tank looks like mine I think. That is, if you look at the top base, you see more metal under the top Oring.

Tybin, your center post looks like mine too. Kind of hard to tell the difference between the Zau and the Zen2 unless you put them next to each other. The Zen2 post definitely looks like it is extending up in the 510 shaft. The Zau looks to be just under the shaft.

Well dang it... Things just keep pointing to me thinking this thing kinda... Um... How do I put this gently? Just... Dang. I think I've got my answers. Thanks amigos.

are the tank glasses your same length ?

 

[tybin]

maybe it's just a matter if asking Jayson if you have enough leaway to tighten down that Atty screw a smidge. just be careful not to crush the delrin. you're right though. it might be good to trade or sell for something that works better for ya.BTW there is another person already selling z2 spec devices. I can't link to it here in jay's thread though

 

[tyler1200]

Hey there... I am new to ECF. Anyways I am the new owner of a Zen Ash II. Unfortunately I have already managed to lose the top cap for it (also lost an mflux drip tip along with it). I see that there are a few top caps for sale on the Electronicstix site, however I am not sure which one will fit on my Ash II. Once I manage to find a new top cap, I suppose I need to find some way to get it to fit a bit tighter so I do not lose it this time. Thanks for any help / links !