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Zirconium wire and springs

Discussion in 'The GG' started by imeothanasis, Jul 10, 2016.

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  1. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    thank you Tif, you were quicker than me again!
     
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  2. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    fa
    fantastic job Ariel thank you!!
     
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  3. tifozi

    tifozi Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2016
    Athens, Greece
    Nothing to worry about. You are just getting older :pervy: :pervy: :pervy:

    :banana::banana::banana::banana:

    :spam:
     
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  4. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    ahahaha, yes I do!
     
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  5. Yaya

    Yaya Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Hi, can anyone please tell me if zirconium springs should be attracted to magnets. Curious as I thought not but find my springs are.:blink::cry::oops:
     
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  6. Ariel_MX

    Ariel_MX Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2010
    Guadalajara, México
    Yes, it should be attracted to magnets.

    Accordingly to what I just have read, Zirconium is a "Paramagnetic".

    "Paramagnetism is a form of magnetism whereby certain materials are attracted by an externally applied magnetic field, and form internal, induced magnetic fields in the direction of the applied magnetic field." (Wikipedia extract).

    Technical data for Zirconium:
    Technical data for the element Zirconium in the Periodic Table

    Paramagnetism:
    Paramagnetism - Wikipedia
     
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  7. Yaya

    Yaya Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    WOW! Thanks Ariel, that was quite amazing reading. :cool::thumbs:
     
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  8. ProngATO

    ProngATO Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 17, 2013
    Edmond, OK
    Steliosss.

    The reason the color turns black is because the zirconium coil is being heat anodized. I'm familiar with Zr when it comes to knife collecting and some of the beads that are made from pure Zr. It can turn other colors, be polished, made matte black, gloss black, etc. This shouldn't be confused with burning the coil, carbon build-up or any materials that have come in contact with zirconium. Rest assured that it's just the anodizing process that can be done with heat or in a more controlled environment with electrical current.

    Here are some examples of solid zirconium items I have in my collection. Zirconium is highly prized in these examples because titanium can't be anodized black.

    An amazing bead that is solid zirconium; Pete managed to get three different finishes. This bead illustrates the shiny silver - black anodized portions of the Zr coils after being heated a few times.

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    A heat treated pure zirconium multi-tool.

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  9. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    I am not familiar with this prossedure but it looks awesome Prong!!
     
  10. steliosss

    steliosss kindness always repays... be sure of that... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I think you're right... thanks for the infos buddy :)
     
  11. ProngATO

    ProngATO Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 17, 2013
    Edmond, OK
    Hey Imeo! I'm just trying to help people understand how versatile elemental zirconium really is. As you've pointed out, it's used in the dental and medical fields for its biocompatibility. I wanted to highlight what else zirconium can and is used for. In addition I hoped to explain the anodizing process that the coils undergo when applying heat and electrical current. I got a little long-winded, for that I apologize.

    My major reason was to explain that the black area on zirconium coils isn't burnt and hasn't decreased in diameter nor mass; it's just been anodized black as a natural process of elemental (pure) zirconium.
     
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  12. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    I totally understand prong and I want to thank you for the great info.!!
     
  13. Mehmet Bizcanli

    Mehmet Bizcanli Full Member

    Apr 25, 2017
    Great info, thanks..
    With thesee advantages, I must use zirconium wire on tilemahos armed. But on table, tcr values seeming as below;

    Per specification:
    0.0044
    Known working values:
    0.00120
    0.00088

    So, which value I must set it?
    0,0044 or any value between 0,00088 with 0,00120.

    And, what about compensate temp on mod? it's seeming 23 degree for me now..
     
  14. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    0.00100 is the right value Meh :)
     
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  15. Mehmet Bizcanli

    Mehmet Bizcanli Full Member

    Apr 25, 2017
    I set it 00120 untill now. Changing as 00100 immediately. Thanks for your help.
     
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  16. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
  17. AdamAnd

    AdamAnd Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2011
    Ajax, Canada
    I would try to source some Zirconium wire locally is it ok to ask for the detailed specks.:confused:
     
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  18. ProngATO

    ProngATO Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 17, 2013
    Edmond, OK
    Imeo,

    Here's a perfect example of a knife maker that not only makes a mod but also makes solid zirconium 510 tips that have been anodized black and polished.

    Zirconium Vape Tip
     
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  19. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    wow, it looks stunning Prong!!!!
     
  20. AdamAnd

    AdamAnd Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2011
    Ajax, Canada
    Is it possible to tell me what type of Zirconium wire to use I would like to source some here in Canada. I guess what composition of Zirconium wire.
     
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