For what it's worth, I shot a Kel Tec sub2k this past weekend and it's next on my must have list. I'd read all the reviews, heard from friends and aquaints, all were glowing reviews. With that being said, shooting it made them all seem to under-rate it. The only gun more fun to shoot is the Ruger 10/22! I didn't really expect too much from a $300 gun but it was pretty darn accurate even when I was emptying clips trying to make it jam. 13/15 body hits at 25yds in under 5 seconds, freehand! Now I do have to say that the KT's muzzle does jump around quite a bit if you don't have a firm grip on the fore stock but recoil is almost non-existent. The 2 boxes of ammo were gone all to quickly but the smile lasted all day and well into the night. Hell, I'm smiling right now just thinking about it. If you do take your time and set up a stable shooting platform, you can get respectable groups but where's the fun in that?