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Can't beat that price! Plus the 30-06 is probably the most versatile round out there for North America. Light bullets for varmints and heavier ones for 'big' game. I'm curious what you think of the Mossberg as far as accuracy out the box. I trust them for shotguns but for reasons you really don't want to see in a bolt action rifle...
 
My Mossberg .243 bolt action has served me well over the last 2 years. Even with a cheap simmons scope on it, it is a very accurate gun. I havent fired the 30-06 yet, but if its half as good as the .243, I will be very happy.

The Mossberg rifles are good for what they are, a cheap alternative to the high end rifles. I believe they are imported and just stamped with the Mossberg name, but most rifles anymore are. They are basic, no frill rifles. Accurate enough to deer hunt, but definitely not to be used for a "sniper rifle" shooting.
 
Found a new product today. Magazine Auxillary Defense System (MADS). Its a piece made to take the place of the floor on your magazine. At the moment, they make them for the 1911 and 9mm/40 cal Glocks, but after talking to the owner today, the Springfield XD versions should be out by the end of the year. Functional as well as adding that "cool" factor.

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While I am on the subject of the SAXD's, tomorrow will be a sad day. I am losing one of my twins, but gaining a new toy, so I guess all is good. I wanted a wheel gun and found a guy who wants to trade his Ruger Superblackhawk 44mag for one of the twins. The Ruger is stainless with a 7 1/2 barrel, still in the box.

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Found a new product today. Magazine Auxillary Defense System (MADS). Its a piece made to take the place of the floor on your magazine. At the moment, they make them for the 1911 and 9mm/40 cal Glocks, but after talking to the owner today, the Springfield XD versions should be out by the end of the year. Functional as well as adding that "cool" factor.

M2 Corporation


While I am on the subject of the SAXD's, tomorrow will be a sad day. I am losing one of my twins, but gaining a new toy, so I guess all is good. I wanted a wheel gun and found a guy who wants to trade his Ruger Superblackhawk 44mag for one of the twins. The Ruger is stainless with a 7 1/2 barrel, still in the box.

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I like the old SA revolvers. The only one I have is a 22. But the price was so good, I couldn't pass it up. A Rough Rider, is the name brand I believe. It's been a while, but I think I got for under 100 bucks brand new. I've shot the hell out of that thing lol. Now, I pretty much just use it for animal control in my neighborhood.
 
I woke up this morning and decided not to do the trade. I just cant let one of the twins go for a wheel gun, even if it is a 44mag. I have a couple other irons in the fire, will post pics if any trades are done. I have really been wanting a 1911 lately for some reason.
 

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Because 1911's are always cool! Sorry to hear you changed your mind on the trade but at least you don't have to redesign the harness now. I probably would have done the trade but I like wheel guns and only have the one XD. The Super does buck like crazy though in .44mag... I've been looking at 686's lately though. If only the 7 shot speed loaders WORKED reliably, I'd pick one up as a good back-up gun. As it stands, I'm still debating between a Sig P250 or a compact glock in .357 sig. I've been reading too many good things about that round. Zero failures to stop (reported by Federal agencies) is pretty compelling.
 

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I just realized that I haven't been posting anywhere near enough lately (work, work, work!) and I haven't told any of you about my latest findings in my quest for ultimate vaping/zombie survival cross platforming quest. Anyway... I was checking out trustfire flashlights and found some monster personal floodlights. Do a search for SST-90's, but they run anywhere from $160 to over $200 for the glorious 2300 lumen beauties. Me being the cheapskate that I am, I found this:
TrustFire SST-80 1800 Lumens Flashlight Torch | eBay
they're selling for just under $67 and put out up to 1800 lumens... What's the vaping crossover? They both use 18650 batteries. Yes I'm a buzz VV disciple but it's been acting up lately and I'm considering a move to low resistance atomizers and one big battery. I'm spreading the word about vaping over smoking but I still get strange looks and questions about it being used like the 'other vaporizers'. It doesn't help that there are two volcano vaporizers out there targeted at two very different audiences. *sigh*
 

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I love 1911's. Awesome pistol. I got one for my dad several years ago, and borrowed it to take to the range. It's just a great gun to shoot. The only one I have now, is one I got for my bday, but it's never been fired, and I traced the serial # to 1913. So in it's original railway express box it will stay lol. It's crazy that when you hold a 1991 model up to one that's a year or so shy of being 100 years old, that there is no difference at all. What a rock solid design! When I set out to get one a couple of years ago, dude had 3 or 4 sig p220's that were old police pistols for sale. The price was just to good to pass up on. So maybe one of these days here soon I'll have to pick me up a nice 1911.
 
My 2 biggest problems with the 1911's are weight and low round capacity. I guess I have been spoiled by the "plastic" guns which take care of both problems.

That being said...

My eyes were really opened to the problems of the XD when I completely stripped the guns down. All the springs (7 small ones for each XD) made me realize that in the field, with no access to the XD website for replacement parts, the XD will be very hard to completely strip and clean. Field stripping is a breeze and even taking the slide completely apart is a snap (only one small spring), but the the plastic housing of the frame is another story. I still love the twins, but I really need to get a 45 that I can completely trust to always fire, in case of a SHTF situation. Thats where the 1911 comes in.

I am now on the look out, officially, for a 1911.

Now heres my question- Anyone heard of a Rock Island Arms or RIA? I can get a brand new, full size 1911 for under $400, with a lifetime warranty. I can get a new Springfield GI for $550 and a Springfield Mil-Spec for $618. I would like to stay with the Springfield line because they have such great customer service and I am just a fan of Springfield, but the RIA with a lifetime warranty is kind of drawing me in as well. I am not wanting to spend the $$$ for a Colt/Kimber/Para Ord just because the gun will more than likely just be packed into my SHTF bag in case I need it. My twins, will still be my first line/choice until, and if, they ever fail.

Any help/advice would be great.
 

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No 'field use' with the RIA stuff but I know they're made in the Phillipines, have a reputation for poor tolerances, and that they are 'ok' if you have a gunsmith buddy who works for cheap...
The 1911's really do fall into the: You get what you pay for category. With so many manufacturers competing to sell such a popular gun, the prices really are pretty fair representations of parts and workmanship unless you're buying an actual Colt. I'd look at the used market and make sure you can test fire it before buying.
 
Thanks for the input. I went to the dealer today and the RIA, dealer cost, is only $339...cheap, but like you said, you get what you pay for... I think I am going to save a bit and save up for the Springfield 1911. I found a Para-USA at the pawn shop for under $500 with a couple sets of grips, case and a couple extra mags. Looks brand new never fired, no wear on it at all. Its in the maybe category.

We went out shooting today and a guy at the range had a Springfield 1911 Loaded model. I fired it and fell in love. Also got to shoot my buddies 300mag and his AR15. Both sweet. We fired my 2 XD's, the browning 9mm, 2- 22 cowboy style, 2 ruger 22's, a S&W M&P 22, Kimber 1911, XD40, the new 30-06, marlin 30/30, Mossberg .243...there was probably more, I just cant remember... What a way to spend the day.
 
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The Springfield's I've shot were pretty sweet and so was the Para P-14 a buddy had. The only Para I've heard complaints about was the sub-compact. It's just so small that recoil is hard to manage and it causes the occasional ejection problem. It's not really a problem with the mechanical design as uncontrolled muzzle flip affecting the slide movement. If you can keep it level (more or less) it functions fine but if you end up with two fingers and a thumb (and that's counting the trigger finger), you can expect problems. The only real drawback to the Para's in general is the cost of extra magazines, everything top side is straight 1911 as far as upgraded barrels, bushings, etc. Springfield's are usually good to go right out of the box! I'm not a huge fan of the S&W auto's but the M&P's have a nice trigger and good ergonomics and a price tag to match. Stay away from the lesser Smiths unless you don't mind a crunchy trigger. Even after multiple trips to S&W for trigger upgrades, my buddy's Sigma still felt like it had sand in it. He traded it in on a used Sig Pro in .40 and couldn't be happier. It didn't hurt that the Pro came with 5 mags (2 were brand new w/price tags) for $325. If he hadn't bought it, I was going to!
 
Well, the 1911 search may be over. I ended up listing one of the twins on the local gun trader website looking for a 1911 trade. Had lots of different offers, but finally got sent a message from a retired police officer. He has an Auto-Ordnance 1911 he is interested in trading. Auto-Ordnance made the original Tommy guns. My friend looked it up, and its valued (judging from pics and details at the moment, not having held it yet) between $750-$1000. The gun comes with 3 magazines and a holster and from what the guy says, was manufactured during the 70's, and is 95% finish/function. He said the only real wear is from the holster and the gun shoots flawlessly.

I asked why he would trade the Auto-Ordnance straight up for the XD, and his response was he carried enough 1911's in Vietnam, he is a "tupperware" gun fan now. Leaving at noon today to go meet him, and of course will post up pics if we both like the trade.

I am also working on a long gun trade as well. I found a guy who has a Marlin 30/30, 16" barrel vs the standard 20" barrel that is looking for a full sized deer rifle. The newly acquired 30-06 may be going to a new home. If you have never seen the shortened 30/30, they are not quite as short as the ranch hand rifles used by Woody Harrelson in Zombieland, but they are close. They still have the flared lever action like the ranch hand. The downside to the trade is the 30/30 has no scope, but the up side is I dont have a lot of cash invested in the 30-06. I have had a ranchhand on order at the local shop for over 6 months now, but they are on back order. The one I had/have ordered was the 38/357 version. If the Marlin works out, then I will cancel the ranchhand order.

And lastly, I am a huge SKS fan, that is no secret. Not so much an AK fan but thats just due to the rising cost of them. I found a guy who has a MAK90 AK47 for a really reasonable price and may be getting it as well, but I am third on his list as far as people wanting it. I guess I was a little slow to respond to the ad. I am also working one last deal to get a DPMS AR15. NOT a fan of the AR platform, but if I can work it out with the guy, and its looking like it will, I will be able to get the AR, for under $500, which is not bad for a factory assembled gun, not a home built one form parts.

For all of these trades to work, I might end up losing BOTH of the twins, but will for sure have a 1911 to take the place of one of them.
 
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I've been looking at these bump fire stocks again. I think I'm in love. If I can find one that works on a A-2 model, I'll pick one up. As for now, all I can find are M-2 style ones. Tapco makes ones for ak's. I'm gonna see if they happen to have an sks version floating around out there.


How awesome is that?

 

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Shame about that AO Mutt, that would have been a nice trade on your end.
To uba: Yeah, it's nice to be able to rip off high volume fire occasionally but it's worthless if you can't direct it properly! That, and ammo sure isn't as cheap as it used to be... My days of burning several hundred rounds of center fire therapy in a day are pretty much over now. If you want to put down multiple accurate rounds down range, practice your double taps until you think you can get them within 6" of each other at 50 yards. Then try triples within 12"! That should keep you busy for awhile with anything other than a Ruger 10/22. That's probably the most useful drill I can think of for rapid fire targeting. Once you become 'one' with the weapon enough to do that reliably, you'll find other ways to shrink your groups. Just don't try it blindfolded... Leave that trick to the Zen archers! :D
 

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Shame about that AO Mutt, that would have been a nice trade on your end.
To uba: Yeah, it's nice to be able to rip off high volume fire occasionally but it's worthless if you can't direct it properly! That, and ammo sure isn't as cheap as it used to be... My days of burning several hundred rounds of center fire therapy in a day are pretty much over now. If you want to put down multiple accurate rounds down range, practice your double taps until you think you can get them within 6" of each other at 50 yards. Then try triples within 12"! That should keep you busy for awhile with anything other than a Ruger 10/22. That's probably the most useful drill I can think of for rapid fire targeting. Once you become 'one' with the weapon enough to do that reliably, you'll find other ways to shrink your groups. Just don't try it blindfolded... Leave that trick to the Zen archers! :D

I hear ya about burning ammo. When I was in the service, they didn't even want us to have our A2's on burst. Trough that type of thinking, I'm a big semi auto guy. I'm sure I could cause much more damage with 3 well placed shots, instead of 30 scattered ones. The reason I like the stock though, is that I've always wanted a full auto for play. I just never wanted to jump through the hoops to do it. For 350 some odd bucks, I think it's a fair trade off to get to do a bit of lead spraying lol. 223 is through the roof now. I used to have 1000 rounds dropped to my front door from Gulf Coast Ammunition for 90 some bucks lol. I had one case of ammo I never burnt up in my closet. The damn thing is almost worth 400$ now!
 
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