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So anyone else plan on picking one of these up?
http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg/
Can't wait to get my grubby little paws on one personally!
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg/
Can't wait to get my grubby little paws on one personally!
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
I totally saw Celtic weapons when I looked at the link. I'm not much of a shotgun person. I wouldn't mind having something like The Judge though.
I think I'll take a shotty over a sheleighleigh bro!
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
I can find reasons not to trust the government to a certain extent, but not in this realm. It would take far too many employees to scour forums and compile a list. After compiling the list, it wouldn't be very reliable, so I doubt they would spend the man-hours on such a thing. It's easier for them to just track sales from ffls. Even though that list will still be inaccurate, it will still be more accurate than a forum mining list would be. I'm a fairly paranoid guy, and I've posted my weapons online.
I've experienced and witnessed it from the other-end-up. The perspective of a conclusion on an individual was reached and anything and everything about them was dug up to fuel the innuendo to rip apart their lives. Part of the reason I got out of and will never return to that side of the fence. But that's uninteresting....
All I have right now is a XDM 9mm (see a lot of XDs on this thread), a CZ rifle in 416 Rigby, and an assortment of blades from Chris Reeve, Cold Steel, and Extrema Ratio. After my daughter was born I scaled back to accommodate the wifey's wishes. If I had to choose a few notables I ~miss~ I'd say the Marlin 1895G was a lot closer to my heart than I thought it would be and my Colt Carry too. The XDM has made me forget my Glock infatuation of days gone by.
I'm looking to sell the CZ, replace my shotgun, and maybe get a VR-1 after I'm fully (Gods willing) recuperated from my current handicapped situation.
I also have a functional but d*mned if I'll ever use it Conan replica sword from Jody Sampson himself.
I'd love to source flax/bamboo thickets to do cutting with swords if I ever get my testicles back. I can almost see the jar from behind the armed lipstick cannons. -Magnus
I have been looking at them, and just cannot get past the $800 for a plastic shotgun. I like Keltec, but think that if they want to enter the shotgun market, they should do so with a slightly cheaper model at least until some people can get it and put it through its paces. For shotguns, the redneck in me keeps going back to the Mossbergs. Lately there have been a couple good buys on the rem 870's here locally, but I still cannot make myself buy one. Even with all the good reviews of the 870, I am just a Mossberg guy.
If you get one, please post up a review.
I guess thats why I will never own a Glock, cause I am such an XD fan, and I keep trying to make myself buy my first AR, but everytime I go to the shop with money in hand, I end up not buying one. I do keep eyeing all the SKS's and AK's though.
There is an AR10 at my shop (on consignment) that I keep picking up and going back and forth if I want it, but the cost is $1200. Retail for the weapon is $1500, and the gun looks brand new, but I just can not get past the whole AR platform. I need to find a local who has an AR and would let me tear it down and reassemble it. I would feel better knowing I could do it. The SKS's I can break down and reassemble blindfolded which is why I am so comfortable with them.
As far as the Keltec's. There are 3 models I am looking at:
PLR-16 Kel Tec CNC
SU-16D Kel Tec CNC
SUB2000 Kel Tec CNC
I have contacted Keltec and asked if they had plans on making the SUB2K in 45acp using Springfield mags, and they replied that they have a lot of interest in that combination, but no plans as of yet. That would be the perfect weapon for me seeing as I have so many XD magazines.
That's a neat little shotgun there with the dual feeding tubes but I have to agree with mutt that $800 is too much for it. It will probably hit the shelves around $600 but that's the price of 3 Mossbergs! If it hits at $800 you could buy and build an upgrade to that shotgun from the Phantasm movies but with 4 mossbergs instead of two doubles...
FWIW, I've been eyeing a SU-16 at the local gun shop. It's priced at ~$470 NIB which seems reasonable compared to most of the AR's I've looked at. I didn't know you could fold them in half though! I was looking at it as a lightweight blowback AR with an integrated bipod. I have to say that the bipod leaves a little to be desired but it's better than nothing. It actually has a ghost ring sight that I like for a change along with the magazine storage in the stock so I just might be picking one up after the money starts flowing again. I'll probably get the 16B for the chrome lined barrel and chamber unless I hear some negatives about it before then.
I'll probably get the 16B for the chrome lined barrel and chamber unless I hear some negatives about it before then.I looked at the B, and it seems like a good choice. I agree, that integrated bi-pod is kind of cheesy, but at least they are trying to offer some options. The downside to the "D" is you have to get a stamp for a short barreled rifle, which is $200 here, so that has to be added to the cost of the gun as well.
On the GOC, the local "for sale" gun boards here, there is a Rossi Handi rifle in 20ga, 22LR and .243. If I could find it in 12ga, .243 and 22lr or mag, I would be all over it.
On the GOC, the local "for sale" gun boards here, there is a Rossi Handi rifle in 20ga, 22LR and .243. If I could find it in 12ga, .243 and 22lr or mag, I would be all over it.
Last I heard they were selling
pre-orders at a few shops at around 700. I'll wait till I get a good used one or the price comes down a little as well. Just looks like a HELL of a gun!
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
pre-orders at a few shops at around 700. I'll wait till I get a good used one or the price comes down a little as well. Just looks like a HELL of a gun!
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
It definitely looks the part. I hope it ends up being a hell of a shotgun
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=519542
Decided to go another route on my new upper!
Decided to go another route on my new upper!
They were a fuzz higher than the ones from DSA arms BUT this one comes with the BCG an CH. So I figure it was cheaper in the long run. May have to pick up a plumb crazy lower and to put my old upper on and have 2 complete AR's!
Well, I ended up sighting in 4 rifles for a friend the other day so I thought I'd share my impressions on them here. 2 were brand new, 1 was slightly used, and one was over 50 years old (his very first rifle!). All were in .22 LR. First up on the bench was his old Springfield/Savage that we've been dorking around with for the past 6 months trying to get it into condition to actually shoot which included replacing the barrel that had a suspect bulge near the end of the barrel and cleaning out over 40 years of accumulated dirt and residue and it's not a 'simple' gun by any means but more on that later. Without going into too much detail, this is a gun that probably should have just gone up on the wall and never fired again. Not very accurate at all even at 50 yards when we threw an old Tasco tip-off scope on it! I think we'll just end up refinishing the stock and he'll use it in extreme emergency only...
Next up was a brand new Savage 64FVXP that for some reason came with a Bushnell variable power scope instead of the fixed 4x that was listed from the factory. I don't know why it came with it, but neither one of us were complaining to say the least! This particular model doesn't come with factory iron sights btw. The trigger was nice enough with a fair amount of 'slack' or take up and a little bit of creep before it would actually break (break meaning 'fire' not 'fail'). Once I got it on the paper it ended up being reasonably accurate but not the tack driver he was hoping it would be. Spent a fair amount of ammunition trying to get it just right but couldn't get better than ~1-2" groups off a rest. Decent enough for most.
Next in line was his wife's stainless and synthetic Ruger 10/22 with a matching Simmons 22 magnum scope. I was confident I could hit the bull's-eye within 10 shots (and told him so! Have I mentioned I love Ruger 10/22's?) to say the least. First shot, completely off the rather large target. WTF?!?! Maybe it was a flyer, second shot, same thing... Looked very hard at him and asked what the hell he'd done to it. He came back by telling me that neither one of them had shot it yet and it's just like they bought it (used). Uh-oh. I might need more than 10 shots and this just might be why the former owner sold it... I decided to see exactly where it was hitting from point of aim, checked where the range officer was looking, and shot in the dirt between 'official' target boards. More than THREE FEET over where I was aiming, *poof*! Cranked the scope 60 clicks down, fired again into the dirt and it looked about 1.5 ft over POA. Damn, but at least it's responding... 40 clicks down and switch back to paper, 4" high, 1" left. 8 down, 2 clicks right, still 4" high but centered. I start to get worried here at 6 out of 10 shots, I hate being wrong so I put another 12 clicks down and... 7th shot clips the very top of the 1/2" bull's-eye! I shoot a 2nd 'verification' shot and open of the hole a little more... I start to give it one more click so it's 'dead-on' and he gives up saying it's good enough for his wife. Two important things about this, we never got a ragged hole with the Savage and he doesn't like the Ruger and thinks it's a 'kids gun'. Even after out shooting ALL his other rifles (including the Remington which is next) in every aspect, he doesn't like them! As an added bonus, his wife is a consistently better shot than him. Hell, she's better with a pistol than me for sure!
Last one to get sighted in was the Remington 597 in matte/synthetic. This is the only one we sighted in with just the iron sights. From the factory it's set up for 100yds but my eyes were not up to it after a couple hours of sighting in guns (boy are my eyes getting old now!) so I asked him what he wanted to do since tools are required to adjust them (no bobby pin ramp on this one!) and he said 50yds is where he wanted them, fine by me! Right off the bat I started noticing little differences between the Remington and the Savage, some good, some not. Where the Savage's trigger was light with a little creep, the Remington's was heavier but very, very, crisp. I almost wish the Ruger's trigger was that clean if it wouldn't take away the fun factor. The Remington is a 'serious' little rifle. Once I moved the sights back to the first mark, it hit flat and 2" to the left... 'verification shot' made a ragged hole of the 1st shot! Unfortunately the windage adjustment isn't on a worm gear so it took me another 3 shots to get it dead on centered after a couple over-compensation adjustments. It was so good I convinced him to take the scope off his 'old' gun and put it on there so we could see what we could see at 100yds. This is when the problems began. Up to this point we were shooting CCI Stingers but ran out and had to switch to CCI MiniMags that were not exactly factory fresh. I'm hoping it was the ammo and not the rifle because there were more than a couple duds, jams, and stove pipes. We did get it sighted in at 100yds but the groups weren't that nice and the 'zero' was between shooting an inch right or left depending on what it felt like that shot. I personally feel like the Remington is a better rifle than the target was showing that day. The Remington also has one 'feature' that I don't really care for, the magazine release is on the right side above the trigger. It wasn't exactly in the same location as one on an AR 15 but that's as close an I can describe it. I'm sure with more practice, I'd get used to it but it didn't feel like a natural extension of magazine replacement like the Savage or Ruger. It won't replace the 10/22 as my favorite 22 but I would take it over the Savage just for the accuracy potential I saw.
At the end of the day, he tried to pay me for sighting in his rifles. I laughed and said "Seriously? You want to pay me for shooting up your ammo after you already paid for the range time?!? I was going to ask if you wanted me to mow your lawn to make up for it!". I told him any time he wanted someone to shoot his guns for him, I'd be more than happy to do it. I did tell him to reconsider the Savage. Nice 'bonus' scope or not, it should have shot better than it did and might have been a factory return for that reason. I also told him to keep an eye on the Ruger's scope acting up again. I've never had to crank a scope 100 clicks (in the same direction at least) to get to zero so the detents might be worn. Who knows what kind of life it had before he bought it?
All in all, it was a good day. I almost forgot to mention that the Range Officer was interested in my Buzz VV. I told him to check out the site and our forum so time will tell if he takes me up on it. Now that I think about it, I have that Mako just sitting there in a drawer, I should go make a deal with him on it to get him hooked.. er... started.
Next up was a brand new Savage 64FVXP that for some reason came with a Bushnell variable power scope instead of the fixed 4x that was listed from the factory. I don't know why it came with it, but neither one of us were complaining to say the least! This particular model doesn't come with factory iron sights btw. The trigger was nice enough with a fair amount of 'slack' or take up and a little bit of creep before it would actually break (break meaning 'fire' not 'fail'). Once I got it on the paper it ended up being reasonably accurate but not the tack driver he was hoping it would be. Spent a fair amount of ammunition trying to get it just right but couldn't get better than ~1-2" groups off a rest. Decent enough for most.
Next in line was his wife's stainless and synthetic Ruger 10/22 with a matching Simmons 22 magnum scope. I was confident I could hit the bull's-eye within 10 shots (and told him so! Have I mentioned I love Ruger 10/22's?) to say the least. First shot, completely off the rather large target. WTF?!?! Maybe it was a flyer, second shot, same thing... Looked very hard at him and asked what the hell he'd done to it. He came back by telling me that neither one of them had shot it yet and it's just like they bought it (used). Uh-oh. I might need more than 10 shots and this just might be why the former owner sold it... I decided to see exactly where it was hitting from point of aim, checked where the range officer was looking, and shot in the dirt between 'official' target boards. More than THREE FEET over where I was aiming, *poof*! Cranked the scope 60 clicks down, fired again into the dirt and it looked about 1.5 ft over POA. Damn, but at least it's responding... 40 clicks down and switch back to paper, 4" high, 1" left. 8 down, 2 clicks right, still 4" high but centered. I start to get worried here at 6 out of 10 shots, I hate being wrong so I put another 12 clicks down and... 7th shot clips the very top of the 1/2" bull's-eye! I shoot a 2nd 'verification' shot and open of the hole a little more... I start to give it one more click so it's 'dead-on' and he gives up saying it's good enough for his wife. Two important things about this, we never got a ragged hole with the Savage and he doesn't like the Ruger and thinks it's a 'kids gun'. Even after out shooting ALL his other rifles (including the Remington which is next) in every aspect, he doesn't like them! As an added bonus, his wife is a consistently better shot than him. Hell, she's better with a pistol than me for sure!
Last one to get sighted in was the Remington 597 in matte/synthetic. This is the only one we sighted in with just the iron sights. From the factory it's set up for 100yds but my eyes were not up to it after a couple hours of sighting in guns (boy are my eyes getting old now!) so I asked him what he wanted to do since tools are required to adjust them (no bobby pin ramp on this one!) and he said 50yds is where he wanted them, fine by me! Right off the bat I started noticing little differences between the Remington and the Savage, some good, some not. Where the Savage's trigger was light with a little creep, the Remington's was heavier but very, very, crisp. I almost wish the Ruger's trigger was that clean if it wouldn't take away the fun factor. The Remington is a 'serious' little rifle. Once I moved the sights back to the first mark, it hit flat and 2" to the left... 'verification shot' made a ragged hole of the 1st shot! Unfortunately the windage adjustment isn't on a worm gear so it took me another 3 shots to get it dead on centered after a couple over-compensation adjustments. It was so good I convinced him to take the scope off his 'old' gun and put it on there so we could see what we could see at 100yds. This is when the problems began. Up to this point we were shooting CCI Stingers but ran out and had to switch to CCI MiniMags that were not exactly factory fresh. I'm hoping it was the ammo and not the rifle because there were more than a couple duds, jams, and stove pipes. We did get it sighted in at 100yds but the groups weren't that nice and the 'zero' was between shooting an inch right or left depending on what it felt like that shot. I personally feel like the Remington is a better rifle than the target was showing that day. The Remington also has one 'feature' that I don't really care for, the magazine release is on the right side above the trigger. It wasn't exactly in the same location as one on an AR 15 but that's as close an I can describe it. I'm sure with more practice, I'd get used to it but it didn't feel like a natural extension of magazine replacement like the Savage or Ruger. It won't replace the 10/22 as my favorite 22 but I would take it over the Savage just for the accuracy potential I saw.
At the end of the day, he tried to pay me for sighting in his rifles. I laughed and said "Seriously? You want to pay me for shooting up your ammo after you already paid for the range time?!? I was going to ask if you wanted me to mow your lawn to make up for it!". I told him any time he wanted someone to shoot his guns for him, I'd be more than happy to do it. I did tell him to reconsider the Savage. Nice 'bonus' scope or not, it should have shot better than it did and might have been a factory return for that reason. I also told him to keep an eye on the Ruger's scope acting up again. I've never had to crank a scope 100 clicks (in the same direction at least) to get to zero so the detents might be worn. Who knows what kind of life it had before he bought it?
All in all, it was a good day. I almost forgot to mention that the Range Officer was interested in my Buzz VV. I told him to check out the site and our forum so time will tell if he takes me up on it. Now that I think about it, I have that Mako just sitting there in a drawer, I should go make a deal with him on it to get him hooked.. er... started.
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Sweet! 
Sounds like you had a blast. My son and I went to go shooting yesterday, and I was going to give him time on the .22/410, but the road to our shooting area is closed for the next month.
Instead, we went scouting around for new locations. I just merely mentioned that we were going to find multiple locations suitable for living during Z-Day, but it set in his mind, and he was pointing out pros and cons at each of our stops, including food, water, visibility, camouflage, etc. I was quite impressed.
During the trip, I managed to find enough excuses to test the 4 wheel drive and clearance of the pickup, and she does quite well, so the day wasn't a waste just because we didn't end up throwing lead.
Sounds like you had a blast. My son and I went to go shooting yesterday, and I was going to give him time on the .22/410, but the road to our shooting area is closed for the next month.Instead, we went scouting around for new locations. I just merely mentioned that we were going to find multiple locations suitable for living during Z-Day, but it set in his mind, and he was pointing out pros and cons at each of our stops, including food, water, visibility, camouflage, etc. I was quite impressed.
During the trip, I managed to find enough excuses to test the 4 wheel drive and clearance of the pickup, and she does quite well, so the day wasn't a waste just because we didn't end up throwing lead.
So did you get that leak fixed then? No other issues with the truck is a good thing! Glad to hear the little guy was weighing the pro's and con's of each location too. If nothing else, it keeps his mind active with problem solving skills, which is an even better thing.
Glad to hear the little guy was weighing the pro's and con's of each location too. If nothing else, it keeps his mind active with problem solving skills, which is an even better thing.Well, I solved the problem by just keeping it below half full for now. 
I've got the stuff all ready to attempt a seal, but was waiting for a dry day to do it. First dry day we got was 20 degrees hotter than it has been for the last 3 months, so I was about to die from just getting the lawn mower ready, LOL. If I can get my room rearranged before the wind comes up, I'll give it a whack. I've got to get things arranged for webcasting. How that will help me for Z-Day, I don't know, LOL.
I've got the stuff all ready to attempt a seal, but was waiting for a dry day to do it. First dry day we got was 20 degrees hotter than it has been for the last 3 months, so I was about to die from just getting the lawn mower ready, LOL. If I can get my room rearranged before the wind comes up, I'll give it a whack. I've got to get things arranged for webcasting. How that will help me for Z-Day, I don't know, LOL.
This grip would be handy if you have an AR and vape six volts.
Magpul MIAD
MIAD® - MIssion ADaptable Grip - MIAD® Grip Kit – AR15/M16
It's an very nice, comfortable grip and can be had with a storage plug for two cr123 batteries.
Moved to zombie tools since it's 'theoretical' vs personal experience
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I have trigger time on a rifle with this grip and have plans for putting one on my Plum Crazy lower when I get it. I can see how the "would be handy" could have been mistaken for theoretical, but then again I thought saying it was a comfortable grip implied it had been in my hand before. I was just throwing it out there for those who have black rifle disease. Just clarifying, no disrespect intended
Magpul MIAD
MIAD® - MIssion ADaptable Grip - MIAD® Grip Kit – AR15/M16
It's an very nice, comfortable grip and can be had with a storage plug for two cr123 batteries.
Moved to zombie tools since it's 'theoretical' vs personal experience
-whynotvap
I have trigger time on a rifle with this grip and have plans for putting one on my Plum Crazy lower when I get it. I can see how the "would be handy" could have been mistaken for theoretical, but then again I thought saying it was a comfortable grip implied it had been in my hand before. I was just throwing it out there for those who have black rifle disease. Just clarifying, no disrespect intended
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I just finished my first AR-15 build today. It's a 24" stainless varmint A4 upper with free-float tube on a Suplus Arms lower with an A2 buttstock. It's also got the Pearce Grip 1911 AR-15 grip with wrap-around rubber grip panels, which I personally like the feel of very much. It's also been equipped with a set of Magpul MBUS sights, and I'm currently shopping rings to put some optics on it. Also, for you AR-15 owners, the Accu-wedge is a wonderful thing, eliminated any play between my lower and upper, which started out as having a fraction of a millimeter to move around before.
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