I'm not saying one is any better then the other and not debating if something is worth a certain price or not. All recommendations are helpful and in the end a device for the OP is the main thing and hopes he finds one. I know cheaper, more affordable Chinese devices are the norm now and that is perfectly fine because I hear great things about them being well built, easy to obtain, and very affordable, but to wipe out the very category of high end tanks and say that I never even heard about those, and to insert names of 10 dollar rta's as high end just is not correct. I know over priced, hard to get ,authentic high end rta's are a dying breed and are not the smart choice for most these days, but at least they should have the categorization as high end and not just brushed off as not even existing. I personally don't believe Tonee's N or Cf11's lists are, or should be considered high end, yes I'm sure they are very fine tanks but they should be in the category of just rta's. So what's next, calling an eleaf istick or a pico a hi end mod? All I'm saying is to give at least a little respect to those dying breedsAnd the Mona Lisa is about 20$ worth of canvas and paint...
Things are worth what people will pay for it, or sell it for.
He already stated that "high end" meant "quality, ease of use and flavour", and I absolutely agree with that description.
well saidI'm not saying one is any better then the other and not debating if something is worth a certain price or not. All recommendations are helpful and in the end a device for the OP is the main thing and hopes he finds one. I know cheaper, more affordable Chinese devices are the norm now and that is perfectly fine because I hear great things about them being well built, easy to obtain, and very affordable, but to wipe out the very category of high end tanks and say that I never even heard about those, and to insert names of 10 dollar rta's as high end just is not correct. I know over priced, hard to get ,authentic high end rta's are a dying breed and are not the smart choice for most these days, but at least they should have the categorization as high end and not just brushed off as not even existing. I personally don't believe Tonee's N or Cf11's lists are, or should be considered high end, yes I'm sure they are very fine tanks but they should be in the category of just rta's. So what's next, calling an eleaf istick or a pico a hi end mod? All I'm saying is to give at least a little respect to those dying breeds
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THe deck is RDA, but with double glass-wall topper turns it into a RTA as you can fill it.You are talking about the kennedy 24, copper no good where my juice stands. I hear good things about it but the 3 post design is a pita, not that i cant build on it, .... i build on crazier decks. But isnt it an rda not technically rta?
I'm not saying one is any better then the other and not debating if something is worth a certain price or not. All recommendations are helpful and in the end a device for the OP is the main thing and hopes he finds one. I know cheaper, more affordable Chinese devices are the norm now and that is perfectly fine because I hear great things about them being well built, easy to obtain, and very affordable, but to wipe out the very category of high end tanks and say that I never even heard about those, and to insert names of 10 dollar rta's as high end just is not correct. I know over priced, hard to get ,authentic high end rta's are a dying breed and are not the smart choice for most these days, but at least they should have the categorization as high end and not just brushed off as not even existing. I personally don't believe Tonee's N or Cf11's lists are, or should be considered high end, yes I'm sure they are very fine tanks but they should be in the category of just rta's. So what's next, calling an eleaf istick or a pico a hi end mod? All I'm saying is to give at least a little respect to those dying breeds
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, if you believe your 10 dollar atty is high end, that's all that matters.[emoji38]I've seen lots of things that were called "high-end" because they were "hand built" and so on... but they still were crap.
High prices doesn't mean anything.. it's about quality.
If I get a 10$ Chinese tank that the machining is done very well, the way it work is stellar, etc. I would call that high-end way before I'd call a 100$ piece of crap that's badly put together, leaks, provides poor flavour, etc.
It's all about working well, quality build, not "rarety", expensive or such things that makes something high-end.
This applies to everything, not just vaping.
If it's well built, solid, quality and provides an excellent experience, it is high end...that is what high ends means., if you believe your 10 dollar atty is high end, that's all that matters.[emoji38]
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I disagree, because so many things are well built but inexpensive , you just can't say everything is high end. I think everything I own, not just vape stuff, is good quality stuff and reasonably priced, I rarely buy super expensive, over priced things in life and those things I just don't consider hi end, there just good quality items. The very definition of high end , besides superior quality, is a high price tag.If it's well built, it is high end...
There's a difference between an opinion of something and the fact that a well produced, high quality product is high end, regardless of price.
That's like saying that someone that takes a horrible, terrible, absolutely crappy picture would be "great" because they used a 10k camera, and that a beautiful, inspiring picture would be crap because it was taken with a 10$ disposable.
If it's well built, solid, quality and provides an excellent experience, it is high end...that is what high ends means.
There's a difference between an opinion of something and the fact that a well produced, high quality product is high end, regardless of price.
That's like saying that someone that takes a horrible, terrible, absolutely crappy picture would be "great" because they used a 10k camera, and that a beautiful, inspiring picture would be crap because it was taken with a 10$ disposable.
THe deck is RDA, but with double glass-wall topper turns it into a RTA as you can fill it.
Yes I agree it's just terminology and kind of stupid but things still should have their respective categories and as you see by the number #1 definition, high end means at the higher end of the price range and also quality. Things that are cheap with good quality shouldn't be considered high end imo.high-end
ˌhīˈend/
adjective
- denoting the most expensive of a range of products.
High-Quality
Adjective
Arguing terminologies seems to be a hobby of Angel lol
- Of very good quality.
‘a range of high-quality wines’
so meh... tap yourselves on the shoulders if you need it so much.
Not as much as you love the need to prove something.I just love how maturely you always end your arguments.
Not sure why your taking it personally, it's nothing about the quality what so ever...I never said your devices were cheap or nothing like that at all. You are taking this completely wrong and thinking I'm knocking certain devices. Any Google search on the definition will say that a it also includes the price being on the higher end and that's simply my point. It's strictly a terminology issue, nothing else and I'm sorry if I offended you in any wayAnd:
Definition of HIGH-END
Definition of high–end
1
: upscale high–end boutiques
2
: of superior quality or sophistication and usually high in price
As I stated, high end normally denotes quality.. the price part is present, but not a true confirmation of actual quality.
Basically I've just been stating the differences between the real world examples and on paper.
And aside you two, everyone else in this thread viewed it the same... so meh... tap yourselves on the shoulders if you need it so much.
Amit's list of hi end rta's is actually correct, and are truly hi end. all are well known but take some effort to obtain (some anyways). The other lists that you agree with are just rtas , and imo don't fall into the category of high end. In the end though, I'm sure the OP was thinking along the lines of your preferred list of rta's and probably wasn't thinking of real high end rta's in the 100 to 250 dollar range
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