ANY Recomendationss for high end RTAS

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And the Mona Lisa is about 20$ worth of canvas and paint...

Things are worth what people will pay for it, or sell it for.
I'm not saying one is any better then the other and not debating if something is worth a certain price or not. All recommendations are helpful and in the end a device for the OP is the main thing and hopes he finds one. I know cheaper, more affordable Chinese devices are the norm now and that is perfectly fine because I hear great things about them being well built, easy to obtain, and very affordable, but to wipe out the very category of high end tanks and say that I never even heard about those, and to insert names of 10 dollar rta's as high end just is not correct. I know over priced, hard to get ,authentic high end rta's are a dying breed and are not the smart choice for most these days, but at least they should have the categorization as high end and not just brushed off as not even existing. I personally don't believe Tonee's N or Cf11's lists are, or should be considered high end, yes I'm sure they are very fine tanks but they should be in the category of just rta's. So what's next, calling an eleaf istick or a pico a hi end mod? All I'm saying is to give at least a little respect to those dying breeds
He already stated that "high end" meant "quality, ease of use and flavour", and I absolutely agree with that description.


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I'm not saying one is any better then the other and not debating if something is worth a certain price or not. All recommendations are helpful and in the end a device for the OP is the main thing and hopes he finds one. I know cheaper, more affordable Chinese devices are the norm now and that is perfectly fine because I hear great things about them being well built, easy to obtain, and very affordable, but to wipe out the very category of high end tanks and say that I never even heard about those, and to insert names of 10 dollar rta's as high end just is not correct. I know over priced, hard to get ,authentic high end rta's are a dying breed and are not the smart choice for most these days, but at least they should have the categorization as high end and not just brushed off as not even existing. I personally don't believe Tonee's N or Cf11's lists are, or should be considered high end, yes I'm sure they are very fine tanks but they should be in the category of just rta's. So what's next, calling an eleaf istick or a pico a hi end mod? All I'm saying is to give at least a little respect to those dying breeds



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You are talking about the kennedy 24, copper no good where my juice stands. I hear good things about it but the 3 post design is a pita, not that i cant build on it, .... i build on crazier decks. But isnt it an rda not technically rta?
THe deck is RDA, but with double glass-wall topper turns it into a RTA as you can fill it.
 

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I'm not saying one is any better then the other and not debating if something is worth a certain price or not. All recommendations are helpful and in the end a device for the OP is the main thing and hopes he finds one. I know cheaper, more affordable Chinese devices are the norm now and that is perfectly fine because I hear great things about them being well built, easy to obtain, and very affordable, but to wipe out the very category of high end tanks and say that I never even heard about those, and to insert names of 10 dollar rta's as high end just is not correct. I know over priced, hard to get ,authentic high end rta's are a dying breed and are not the smart choice for most these days, but at least they should have the categorization as high end and not just brushed off as not even existing. I personally don't believe Tonee's N or Cf11's lists are, or should be considered high end, yes I'm sure they are very fine tanks but they should be in the category of just rta's. So what's next, calling an eleaf istick or a pico a hi end mod? All I'm saying is to give at least a little respect to those dying breeds

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I've seen lots of things that were called "high-end" because they were "hand built" and so on... but they still were crap.

High prices doesn't mean anything.. it's about quality.

If I get a 10$ Chinese tank that the machining is done very well, the way it work is stellar, etc. I would call that high-end way before I'd call a 100$ piece of crap that's badly put together, leaks, provides poor flavour, etc.

It's all about working well, quality build, not "rarety", expensive or such things that makes something high-end.

This applies to everything, not just vaping.
 

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I've seen lots of things that were called "high-end" because they were "hand built" and so on... but they still were crap.

High prices doesn't mean anything.. it's about quality.

If I get a 10$ Chinese tank that the machining is done very well, the way it work is stellar, etc. I would call that high-end way before I'd call a 100$ piece of crap that's badly put together, leaks, provides poor flavour, etc.

It's all about working well, quality build, not "rarety", expensive or such things that makes something high-end.

This applies to everything, not just vaping.
, if you believe your 10 dollar atty is high end, that's all that matters.[emoji38]

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, if you believe your 10 dollar atty is high end, that's all that matters.[emoji38]

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If it's well built, solid, quality and provides an excellent experience, it is high end...that is what high ends means.

There's a difference between an opinion of something and the fact that a well produced, high quality product is high end, regardless of price.

That's like saying that someone that takes a horrible, terrible, absolutely crappy picture would be "great" because they used a 10k camera, and that a beautiful, inspiring picture would be crap because it was taken with a 10$ disposable.

If you believe that having a product because of price and brand makes it "better" as it's more of a "status" symbol than actual quality, then I must gather that you probably own a Volkswagen or similar crap car and believe it to be the greatest thing ever.
 
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If it's well built, it is high end...

There's a difference between an opinion of something and the fact that a well produced, high quality product is high end, regardless of price.

That's like saying that someone that takes a horrible, terrible, absolutely crappy picture would be "great" because they used a 10k camera, and that a beautiful, inspiring picture would be crap because it was taken with a 10$ disposable.
I disagree, because so many things are well built but inexpensive , you just can't say everything is high end. I think everything I own, not just vape stuff, is good quality stuff and reasonably priced, I rarely buy super expensive, over priced things in life and those things I just don't consider hi end, there just good quality items. The very definition of high end , besides superior quality, is a high price tag.
If it's well built, solid, quality and provides an excellent experience, it is high end...that is what high ends means.

There's a difference between an opinion of something and the fact that a well produced, high quality product is high end, regardless of price.

That's like saying that someone that takes a horrible, terrible, absolutely crappy picture would be "great" because they used a 10k camera, and that a beautiful, inspiring picture would be crap because it was taken with a 10$ disposable.


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high-end
ˌhīˈend/
adjective
  1. denoting the most expensive of a range of products.

High-Quality
Adjective

  • Of very good quality.

    ‘a range of high-quality wines’
Arguing terminologies seems to be a hobby of Angel lol
Yes I agree it's just terminology and kind of stupid but things still should have their respective categories and as you see by the number #1 definition, high end means at the higher end of the price range and also quality. Things that are cheap with good quality shouldn't be considered high end imo.

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And:

Definition of HIGH-END
Definition of high–end
1
: upscale high–end boutiques
2
: of superior quality or sophistication and usually high in price



As I stated, high end normally denotes quality.. the price part is present, but not a true confirmation of actual quality.

Basically I've just been stating the differences between the real world examples and on paper.

And aside you two, everyone else in this thread viewed it the same... so meh... tap yourselves on the shoulders if you need it so much.
 

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What am I trying to prove? I posted a definition and asked kindly how the airflow works for your Kennedy with that top cap. I than agreed with Vap on his explanation.

But I think I am done with you. I find you in arguments all the time, always responding immaturely/rudely, and you have to state in your signature about your ignore list which says lots as it is. :D
 

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And:

Definition of HIGH-END
Definition of high–end
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: upscale high–end boutiques
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: of superior quality or sophistication and usually high in price



As I stated, high end normally denotes quality.. the price part is present, but not a true confirmation of actual quality.

Basically I've just been stating the differences between the real world examples and on paper.

And aside you two, everyone else in this thread viewed it the same... so meh... tap yourselves on the shoulders if you need it so much.
Not sure why your taking it personally, it's nothing about the quality what so ever...I never said your devices were cheap or nothing like that at all. You are taking this completely wrong and thinking I'm knocking certain devices. Any Google search on the definition will say that a it also includes the price being on the higher end and that's simply my point. It's strictly a terminology issue, nothing else and I'm sorry if I offended you in any way

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Amit's list of hi end rta's is actually correct, and are truly hi end. all are well known but take some effort to obtain (some anyways). The other lists that you agree with are just rtas , and imo don't fall into the category of high end. In the end though, I'm sure the OP was thinking along the lines of your preferred list of rta's and probably wasn't thinking of real high end rta's in the 100 to 250 dollar range



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Thanks for your response. I actually am looking for true high end. I spent $100 or more on my kabuki (not RTA) kayfun 5, the (3) squapes I own and the Aqua v2. So I do own (6) RTA's in that price range it. I am open to well made RTA's not in this range but what I really want, my intention for the post, are going to be in the $100-200 range. Most of the time (not always) when it falls in this price point it will be extremely well made. Times when it is not due to quality, it is because it's by a specific maker so they can charge more for it because so. I prefer - hand made, small batch, top engineering, high quality materials and craftsmanship. In general you can not get all these factors without it being in the high price point. High end does not always mean it is going to be better. It could have bad design, while one with great design but mass produced in ok materials with out perform. When you pick up a Squape or any other true high end piece, you can feel and tell it's well made out of quality materials. The difficult part is what I Concider to be high end may be diffeerent than your peramaters and definition.
 
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