FDA Date of the Deeming?

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Katya

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They will lose. Sooner or later.

"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else."
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http://publichealthlawcenter.org/si...takesmallstepexpandtobaccoregulation-2014.pdf

...and from the deeming doc:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/TobaccoProducts/Labeling/RulesRegulationsGuidance/UCM394914.pdf

Effective Dates—The deeming
provisions and age restrictions would be
effective 30 days from the date of
publication of the final rule. The
proposed health warning requirements
would be effective 24 months after the
final rule is issued. In addition,
manufacturers could continue to
introduce into domestic commerce
existing inventory that may not contain
the warning statements required under
the final rule for an additional 30 days
after the health warnings take effect.

Compliance Dates for PMTAs and SE
Reports
—As stated previously, we
understand that, for some products,
there may not be predicate products that
were on the market as of February 15,
2007, to which to claim substantial
equivalence. This may be particularly
true for e-cigarettes and similar novel
products. For this reason, we are
proposing that these manufacturers who
cannot use the SE pathway submit
PMTAs to FDA no later than 24 months
following the effective date of the final
rule. We are also proposing a 24-month
compliance period for the submission of
SE reports. Therefore, FDA does not
intend to initiate enforcement action
against products on the market for
failing to have made an appropriate
submission until 24 months following
the effective date of the final rule. If a
manufacturer submits a PMTA or SE
application for its affected products
within the 24-month time frame, FDA
does not intend to initiate action against
those products for failing to have a
marketing authorization unless and
until such a time as we have responded
to the application.
 

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Why would anyone lower nic prices in anticipation of a ban?

Lowering the price of a coveted product flies in the face of the law of supply and demand. Therefore, I doubt it has anything to do with secret knowledge of a ban. I hope it doesn't have more to do with getting rid of old product that's been on the shelves too long.
 

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...Why would anyone lower nic prices in anticipation of a ban?

To capture a larger percentile share of anticipated increased demand. An inducement and incentive to the consumer. You strike when the iron is hot. All businesses is risk, an effort to ascertain future value. And its measured ultimately in the bottom line…real dollars earned.

Good luck all.

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I think never lets tick off the country that holds billions of our debt so they can then call it all in and just take over lets face it china gets a large amount of that 3.5 billion a year in sales there not going to let this go if this passes they will collect on the debt we owe them and it wont be fun.
 

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It would seem to make sense Ethan but I hardly see that happening. All of our corp's are producing there including our best capitalized as Apple for example finally relented some years back. Consolidation of the industry into the fold of limited monopoly of approved vendors and likewise established BT players is the best of all worlds for regulatory government. Don't know if you've noticed but this is happening all over the world. Coincidence? I don't believe in the incidental theory of history.

What we're witnessing is a death battle between int'l consortium and the very regulatory structures in the West that have empowered their efforts at monopoly, picking and choosing of winners. As our advanced economies are diluted of capital and so production capacity consortium may again return for reinvestment buying out what remains in the fire sale. What Western collectivists fail to realize is that the process will inevitably result in their own downsizing through political concentration.

At the end of the day money moves where it best serves its masters.

Good luck all.

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Update (Now putting dates provided in chronological order):

Dates selected so far in this thread: (no names attached, cause you know who you are, what you picked):

  • Jan. 1st
  • Feb. 1st
  • Feb. 10th
  • Feb. 14th
  • Feb. 29th
  • April 1st
  • April 15th
  • April 26th (2 votes)
  • May 22nd
  • June 17th
  • June 22nd
  • By Jan. 8
  • Before March
  • End of May
  • Mid year
  • Never/when Hell freezes over (Infinite amount of votes)

*Crossed off any (or the one) that has already passed
*Bolded the ones that are actual / specific dates
*Underlined the one that is the best answer possible
 
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Well if we ever did decide to leave the US (and had the money to do so!), we'd probably go with Canada, probably British Columbia. Because of the language, because Canadians are just so darn nice, and because I've always wanted to go see all that up there in the Pacific NW. But honestly... knowing what it cost to relocate to a different *state*... I doubt we'll ever have the wherewithal to relocate to a different *country*.

Andria
Canada is a great place to live and BC is beautiful. However, BC stands for bring cash. It's very expensive to live here.
 
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