Do you vape juice from China, or only from USA?

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  1. BAY Rose

    BAY Rose Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    After reading the thread on choice of PG or VG juice, I have a different e-liquid question.

    Do you use any e-juice, even if it's from China?
    :nah:
    Personally, I've avoided anything that goes "into" my body, or that of my pets, that comes from China.
    I buy cartomizers made with USA juice only.
     
  2. Myler

    Myler Full Member

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    I live in the UK and only buy e liquid made in the UK (i.e Decadent Vapours) ... better safe then sorry is the approach that I take.

    Can you get cartomizers prefilled with USA e liquid? I would have thought all cartomizers where filled in China where the cost of labour is considerably cheaper.
     
  3. rebuilder

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    I don't know if people are going to find this controversial, but I consider our overboard EU regulation/legislation to be a cut above the USA for peace of mind, you do however pay for that bureaucracy with your wallet. I personally stay away from Chinese juices fullstop, however I think the bigger brands like Dekang/Hangsen have too much to lose to pay fast and loose with the safety/quality of their product.

    I'm pretty sure that alot of EU/USA juice vendors use ingredients from the same sources unelss they explicitly state that all ingredients are sourced from within their locality. I've seen examples of vendors who state "UK Made" when in fact they mean "Mixed in the UK".
     
  4. bodrell

    bodrell Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I also try to avoid Chinese ingredients in anything (although I realise that is impossible, in reality) and try to buy only from vendors who claim all their ingredients are domestically produced.
     
  5. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    I like a few of the Dekang juices. One is Dekang 3&5 (555). It's clear and tasty and soaks into a carto filler really fast.

    I know that clear doesn't mean pure, but lots of people vape Dekang juices and I don't feel unsafe doing so. I would really like some regulation on juices that requires comprehensive testing to reveal ingredients and a spectroscopic analysis to show the chemical makeup of the juices. Purity of the PG and VG is probably the chief ingredient that could be suspect. Ever since one Ruyan sample turned up with traces of DEG a few years ago, we have suspected China juices to contain ingredients not specified.
     
  6. chargin

    chargin Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I use Dekang also.
     
  7. Harplayr

    Harplayr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I avoid ingesting anything from China if it’s possible to avoid it.
    I’ve seen too many horror stories with their pet food products to trust my lungs to their lax regulations.

    I’ve been buying my juice from Johnson Creek, they claim to use USP ingredients, and the labs have passed inspection.
     
  8. vlis

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    I only use US juices so far. I don't mind the price difference and hope/assume better quality.
     
  9. tahepa

    tahepa Full Member

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    I am the eliquid.hu products.
    The raw material the The Perfumer’s Apprentice,Flavour art,Lorann oils,Inawera flavour.No China.
     
  10. muhkuh0815

    muhkuh0815 Full Member

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    i tried some made in europe, Dekang, HG.
    From the taste i really like Dekang & HG, but i will start mixing myself as soon as the package with my Flavorart, TPA, CBV aromas arrive. Hope i get them to taste like the chinese ones :))
     
  11. gumchewer

    gumchewer Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dekang is the only juice I use from China. It WAS available in 50 ml bottles with a seal that snapped when you opened it but I cant find that now. I did find it at one site, I ordered two 50 ml bottles. They apperently didnt have the 50 ml bottles in stock. Never said a word, I got two bags with two 30ml bottles in each. Both had a dekang label. is it dekang? it tastes the same so I have to have faith I guess.
    I usually only get from health cabin when I shop china, she's pretty reliable and answers email.
     
  12. gumchewer

    gumchewer Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  13. alicewonderland

    alicewonderland Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    I make my own e-liquid now, but when I used to buy premade e-liquid I always bought USA made. I like to support mom n pop shops and personal businesses, especially those who are part of the vapor community.
     
  14. Liscab

    Liscab Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I only use Dekang and i am only buying from China
     
  15. Riverboat

    Riverboat Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    USA all the way!
     
  16. BAY Rose

    BAY Rose Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Myler asks if you can buy e-juice filled with USA only ingredients.

    Yeppers you sure can. Johnson Creek for example, and I just wrote to Backwoods .... oh heck forgot the rest of their name; you know how us noobs are! < blushes> :oops: and they emailed me back saying NOTHING from China goes into their e-liquid. So, just ask your vendor the same question.
     
  17. BAY Rose

    BAY Rose Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    BACKWOODS BREW
    (said they did not use anything from China)
     
  18. BAY Rose

    BAY Rose Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Oh and please forgive me for forgetting the UK sells juice, as I imagine other countries do as well, besides China and the USA.
    I just forget this forum is not limited to America.
    <blushing yet again> :oops:
     
  19. elfstone

    elfstone Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    The fact remains that most of the nicotine used in any products - pharmaceuticals, lab supplies - comes from China and India. A lot of the nicotine base used in "American made" juices is from there. Is that a bad thing?

    Now, this is an interesting dilemma. To use a Chinese product sourced from the same reliable supply chain used by US pharma industry that theoretically meets USP classification criteria, but it's ... from China; or to use something extracted in a lab set up more or less ad-hoc by a more or less well established US based small (read very small) business. On the other hand, you could have in your American made juice, possibly, lower grade, non-USP nicotine imported through shady channels and you will never know. There's no way to know.

    I don't know the answer.

    ETA: for correctness - when you buy your 100 mg nic or whatever, that is no longer a USP grade liquid even if the 99% used was, unless the supplier who diluted it meets the criteria for USP.
     
  20. Chris97b

    Chris97b Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I know the Chinese juices always seem to get a bad rap around here, but Dekang USA Mix has been my daily vape for ages. It's not amazing, but it's pretty tasty, fairly consistent from bottle to bottle and *cheap* :)
     
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