I finally tried this after reading most of these posts . . I'm glad I did - it's a great recipe!. I made it with the same flavor ratios as the original recipe but I made the total flavor percentage 15% vs 20. I also didn't have carmel candy so I subbed Lorann Caramel and added a bit of EM to sweeten. I was eager to try it so I just speed steeped it and gave it whirl . .great juice. I can see myself making this one a lot. Can't wait to try it after a proper steeping .. although this 10ml batch will not live that long.