Thank you!@haleysdadda - Thanks so much for posting the list of cosponsors for H.R. 2058. You have "ink" and I hope it helps our casue.
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Revealed: Big tobacco and the corruption of the TPD
For anyone who doesn't think BT is behind these regs. I think you can find the BBC TV Special about this online.
It couldn't come at a better time for vaping, hopefully BT and the politicians they bribe are feeling the eyes of the world upon them.
For anyone who doesn't think BT is behind these regs. I think you can find the BBC TV Special about this online.
It couldn't come at a better time for vaping, hopefully BT and the politicians they bribe are feeling the eyes of the world upon them.
Of course, Big tobacco is the obvious choice to pin all the shenanigans on; but here in the States, Big Pharma and our state and federal governments are alarmed by their reduced income stream from us not smoking.
Pharma because of the reduced useage of their ineffective NRT's but more they must be aware that those who vape need their drugs for certain illnesses exacerbated or caused by smoking a whole lot less IF any.
Our "concerned about our health" politicans that run our local, state and federal governments are going to miss their "contributions" from the drug and tobacco companies if those very same companies' "bottom line" don't improve. Don't forget about the MSA monies and the excise (sin) tax that go directly into the state's and fed's treasury for making absolutely nothing. Just think what reduced taxes do to their budgets!
I forgot about all the people who work for the "health" and "smoking cessation" organizations that thrive largely from donations from the pharmaceuticals. Where are those people going to work? Where is our Mechanical Engineer Glantz going to get his research funds?
Generally most people do not know just how much business other than tobacco depends upon smoking people.
Pharma because of the reduced useage of their ineffective NRT's but more they must be aware that those who vape need their drugs for certain illnesses exacerbated or caused by smoking a whole lot less IF any.
Our "concerned about our health" politicans that run our local, state and federal governments are going to miss their "contributions" from the drug and tobacco companies if those very same companies' "bottom line" don't improve. Don't forget about the MSA monies and the excise (sin) tax that go directly into the state's and fed's treasury for making absolutely nothing. Just think what reduced taxes do to their budgets!
I forgot about all the people who work for the "health" and "smoking cessation" organizations that thrive largely from donations from the pharmaceuticals. Where are those people going to work? Where is our Mechanical Engineer Glantz going to get his research funds?
Generally most people do not know just how much business other than tobacco depends upon smoking people.
For bribes to work there has to be a corrupt gov't official to take them, or perhaps even make them a requirement to change gov't policy.
Locally, I had a friend who ran a church bingo game. The health officials kept shutting him down. One of the health officials had his own bingo game going. My friend kept complying and they kept shutting him down. He inquired about it and they told him to contact a State Senator. So he did - told him the situation and he thought that handled it. It didn't - still getting shut down. My friend told the person who sent him to the Senator - that he saw the Senator and explained what was happening. The guy said: "Well did you leave a contribution to his campaign?" My friend was a bit naïve, I guess - said "No", and the response was basically - well D'uh? So my friend gave a contribution and there has been no problem with his bingo game since.
A fine example of POWER CORRUPTS!
Love these stories Reminds me of my uncle Vinnie's fav advice to me when I was younger. He even had it printed on the reverse side of his business card.
If you're not at the table, you're on the menu. - Michael Enzi
Reminds me of my uncle Vinnie's fav advice to me when I was younger. He even had it printed on the reverse side of his business card.If you're not at the table, you're on the menu. - Michael Enzi
Dropping this in here in case anyone is interested: E-Cigarette Summit Videos
SJ did a fine job gathering and posting the slides
SJ did a fine job gathering and posting the slides
Dropping this in here in case anyone is interested: E-Cigarette Summit Videos
SJ did a fine job gathering and posting the slides
I agree with Dr. Hayek. I think in time we'll come to realize just how non-addictive a moderate intake of nicotine really is. And that just blows the regulatory fools right out of the water.
Good luck all and Happy Holidays.
Is the Omnibus bill passed then? Or has it just been reworked? I'm not clear on that. Is there *any way* it could be reworked again if it hasn't been passed already?
From the AVA article:
Oh, so now it's we need to be louder. Cause I recall at least 2 campaigns on this from pro-vaping perspective and nary a whisper of a response from TPTB.
I think they'll pay attention to a black market, and to the degree they don't, all the better for vapers and small business owners who care about public health.
Oh, so now it's we need to be louder. Cause I recall at least 2 campaigns on this from pro-vaping perspective and nary a whisper of a response from TPTB.
I think they'll pay attention to a black market, and to the degree they don't, all the better for vapers and small business owners who care about public health.
AFAIK, all the Kinks have been Ironed out. And Speaker Ryan says that a deal has been reached.
Ryan tells GOP there's agreement on tax and spending bill
E-cigarettes big loser in spending bill
Just the fact that a significant amount of people in Congress were talking about our issue gives me a little hope for next year. Paul Ryan called this Omnibus spending bill a “crap sandwich”.
J.R.
"A major lobbying effort to shield many e-cigarette products from federal regulation has gone up in smoke."
I'm curious who's paying the lobbyists.
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