WISMEC Reuleaux RX200 TC

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I take it this is the thread to go to for instructions. I can't wait to try it going to save me a lot of money on my Vapocolypse TC stash. I'm just about there. By the way I am new here but have a lot of experience with TC mainly with Ti wire. I have 5 SXM's 2 in the stash and was going to add a couple more but just couldn't afford it. I'm glad I got 6 spare LG HG2's on Black Friday will come in handy with this beast. My name is Pat. I am a double amputee which is the reason for my handle. Hoping this is going to be as good as expected.

G'day Pat, I'm like yourself hoping to learn a bit here too. Got mine today along with some nice new batteries and got off to a real good start with my charger giving up on one channel so its going to be a long wait to get started. Managed to tear my thumb nail off getting the battery cover off, those magnets are the strongest meanest I have encountered.
That being said this is the last mod I am going to buy, so I just hope it work as good as the hype I does look good though black on black with the Crown.
Also G'day to all of the good folk on this thread...Old burnie to most.
 

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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this before as it may be buried in the forum by now, but I found it impossible to upgrade the firmware using the supplied cable. Guess it's good enough for charging but not for data. Anyway, with a cable from my phone, updating the firmware was quick and easy.
Try plugging it in again, the one that came with mine worked...it is only the third one I have and it the sturdiest one of the lot...not that means anything :)
 

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Sorry if I'm misunderstanding some of the discussion here, but dual coil shouldn't affect TCR.

To make the math easy, let's look at two 1 ohm coils, go from 20 celsius to 220 celsius, and let's use nickels TCR.

So when temp goes up 200 degrees, each of our coils resistance are 1 ohm times 0.006 tcr times 200 degrees, plus the original 1 ohm for a total resistance of 2.2 ohm, on each coil. Those 2.2 ohm coils are parallel, so circuit resistance is 1.1 ohm.

Now let's run the math the way the device sees it. 0.5 ohm resistance times 0.006 tcr, times 200 degrees, plus the original 0.5 ohm is the same 1.1 ohms.

Doesn't matter if is single or dual coil, tcr is the same.

It's static resistances that can throw TC off because they're not going to vary with temp change the way the wire will.
all you say is true but it assumes that the coils are identical in resistance etc. That is the main problem!!
 
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Steve, It is kind of funny but I feel like someone has to help Legs slow down. I mean there won't be any Vaping Gear left for the rest of us. Not to mention that Legs can't live on a zero bank account. He!! I don't know maybe Legs won the Lotto.

I know Legs "Stop messing around in my affairs" and your are right it is none of my business but that has never stopped me before.
Problem is Im in no position to criticise. Its not the vacopalypse with me, its chronic and incurable shinyitis! Devastating affliction!
 

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I've read several pages of this thread, but not the entire thing. I purchased the RX200 (not the DNA200) version and am having a terrible time with the TC using stainless wire. Perhaps someone can give me some insight.

This is what I have.

26G 316L wire wrapped 10 times on a 3mm shaft. Dual coils ohm out at .32. I slightly pulsed and pinched them - I did not glow the coils at all. I then lowered the max wattage on the device in SS TC to 45 watts and set the temp to 400F. The coils are instantly oxidizing and turning black. I have worked on 3 sets of coils, all built the same, and adjusted the max wattage and temp from 200F and 30 watts to 550F and 100 watts and each time the coils are oxidizing immediately.

I've read some that the device is programmed for 304 SS wire, but I'm also seeing that some people use the 316L with out issue.

What gives?
 

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I got mine yesterday, and am very happy with it. I did use the supplied cable to update it.

I may need another 1 or 2 myself to stash away. Yeah, I'm Chicken Little.

And now I realize I'm going to have to stock stuff for my disabled cousin. She's going to need some small mods with replaceable batteries. If anyone sees any bargain sales on things like Sig Minis, let me know, please.
 

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I've read several pages of this thread, but not the entire thing. I purchased the RX200 (not the DNA200) version and am having a terrible time with the TC using stainless wire. Perhaps someone can give me some insight.

This is what I have.

26G 316L wire wrapped 10 times on a 3mm shaft. Dual coils ohm out at .32. I slightly pulsed and pinched them - I did not glow the coils at all. I then lowered the max wattage on the device in SS TC to 45 watts and set the temp to 400F. The coils are instantly oxidizing and turning black. I have worked on 3 sets of coils, all built the same, and adjusted the max wattage and temp from 200F and 30 watts to 550F and 100 watts and each time the coils are oxidizing immediately.

I've read some that the device is programmed for 304 SS wire, but I'm also seeing that some people use the 316L with out issue.

What gives?

On my DNA200 mods, I get much better results making my 316L SS coils slightly spaced, When I tried contact coils (3 different attempts), the temperature graph on Escribe was all over the place. As soon as I spaced the coils, it was smooth, like my Ni200 and Ti1 coils (which I also space). I build on Billow V2's and a Bellus, both dual coil RTA's. Good luck!

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Steve
 
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On my DNA200 mods, I get much better results making my 316L SS coils slightly spaced, When I tried contact coils (3 different attempts), the temperature graph on Escribe was all over the place. As soon as I spaced the coils, it was smooth, like my Ni200 and Ti1 coils (which I also space). I build on Billow V2's and a Bellus, both dual coil RTA's. Good luck!

Cheers,
Steve

Thanks Steve.

I ran down to the local B&M to have some batteries wrapped and I mentioned the issue to him. He pretty much told me the same thing, to space them. I'm going to give it a whirl and see how it goes.

Thank you again for the reply.
 
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SS seems to be kind of a b!tch with anything but the higher end mods. If this had manual TCR and preheat probably would be ok. Temp curve kind of stuff. I have never used it but have heard the ramp up time is kind of slow compared to Ni or Ti. I thought about giving it a try but I love my simple little Ti coils so much that don't see any reason to change.
 

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SS seems to be kind of a b!tch with anything but the higher end mods. If this had manual TCR and preheat probably would be ok. Temp curve kind of stuff. I have never used it but have heard the ramp up time is kind of slow compared to Ni or Ti. I thought about giving it a try but I love my simple little Ti coils so much that don't see any reason to change.

He had NI wire, but no TI, so I bought the SS instead.

It is my first venture in to TC and I was trying to stay away from NI for safety concerns. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about for more experienced users, but getting started wanted to stay safe as possible.
 

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I do have some NiFe48 from Zivipf also and it does work like advised. 6wrap 2.5mm contact coil. You can use it just like Kanthal. Make it glow strum it so it is glowing from inside out and dry burn it when it gets dirty. But I just didn't care for it. You can use it on the SXM or DNA200 either setting the TCR or .csv file for Nifethal52.
 

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He had NI wire, but no TI, so I bought the SS instead.

It is my first venture in to TC and I was trying to stay away from NI for safety concerns. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about for more experienced users, but getting started wanted to stay safe as possible.
Nickel worked fine for me once I got the SX I had no luck at all with the DNA40. I finally sold it my first experience with TC also and that was not a good one to start with. Resistance had to be too high so it made for a large coil using NI200 it had to be spaced I never had a coil work over 3 days. When SX came out with a min resistance of .05 it was easy. But still a PITA because the wire is so soft its hard to work with without deforming the coil. Ti was much better still is IMO.
 
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At last the slow boat from FT has arrived

Thought these would be obsolete by time it got here

Very happy, tiny for a 3 batt mod and all I need now is a nice leather bag [Valentino hope your watching ;) ]

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80w has brought the anaemic TFV4 alive and it vapes smooth as silk now :evil:
 

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SS seems to be kind of a b!tch with anything but the higher end mods. If this had manual TCR and preheat probably would be ok. Temp curve kind of stuff. I have never used it but have heard the ramp up time is kind of slow compared to Ni or Ti. I thought about giving it a try but I love my simple little Ti coils so much that don't see any reason to change.


Materials called Stainless steel can be a lot of different thing all with dramatically differing properties. Unfortunately the properties of most iron and iron nickel alloys are highly dependent on precise chemistry and buying a wire simply by it's type designation leaves a lot of room for property variation. I know that a given stainless steel can perform well if precise TCR values are known or approximated for a specific "batch" of material but on the other hand one batch can be dramatically different from another.

The most reliable wire properties are for materials that are closest to the pure base element. That's why a material such as grade 1 titanium can be trusted no matter what the source or batch. Alloys will always have a degree of variability not present in single element based wires.

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