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Rossum

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morning guys. So i have watched a video a while back claiming that salts were created by Philip Morris so they can win us back to their products ... o_O
I kind doubt that. juul has a pretty broad patent for nicotine salts. If Philip Morris had 'created' nic salts, I can't image that they would let an upstart like juul go unchallenged.
 

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I kind doubt that. Juul has a pretty broad patent for nicotine salts. If Philip Morris had 'created' nic salts, I can't image that they would let an upstart like Juul go unchallenged.

But what if .... naaah .... :rolleyes: (that video claims "a conspiracy theory" scenario)
 
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juu;/pax just borrowed the idea of PH balancing from BT in general

old trick of BT to addict us more, in theory anyway
Actually, no. The trick of adding ammonia to cigarette tobacco to free-base the nic did the opposite of pH balancing; it made the smoke more alkali, and BT found out there was a definite limit how the amount of this they could do while keeping the smoke palatable. Remember that the nic in tobacco is in salt form (and therefore fairly close to pH neutral) to begin with.
 

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5 0'clock shadow = shave at 7am, by 5pm your stubble looks slightly dark
And there's the benefit of getting older and having your facial hair turn gray; stubble is much less visible (at least if you're a light-skinned person).
 

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I was thinking of maybe growing out just my chin patch (so, about 2" across and maybe 1+" high).
That would be gray on both sides with a 1/2" dark streak right down the middle.

. . .

I'm beginning to suspect that the NN "Signature" is actually a lot worse for coil life than is my own mix or the sto'-bot (Milkman).
I'll pay some attention to that for a while here, and see if I can actually discern a clear pattern.

. . ..

right now, tonight, I'm thinkin' of changing my name to Cornelius.
on account of I just shaved everything except the Amish.
(Cornelius being the simian fellow who's Statue of Liberty is ninnies-deep in the sand)
 

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And there's the benefit of getting older and having your facial hair turn gray; stubble is much less visible (at least if you're a light-skinned person).
i have gray, red, yellow and black in my beard/stubble. I have no idea how that happened.

But mostly this goes well with my grayish man-bun. Yes Greeks created man-buns as well.
 

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I was thinking of maybe growing out just my chin patch (so, about 2" across and maybe 1+" high).
That would be gray on both sides with a 1/2" dark streak right down the middle.

. . .

I'm beginning to suspect that the NN "Signature" is actually a lot worse for coil life than is my own mix or the sto'-bot (Milkman).
I'll pay some attention to that for a while here, and see if I can actually discern a clear pattern.

. . ..

right now, tonight, I'm thinkin' of changing my name to Cornelius.
on account of I just shaved everything except the Amish.
(Cornelius being the simian fellow who's Statue of Liberty is ninnies-deep in the sand)
Visuals working fine here....................
 

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But mostly this goes well with my grayish man-bun. Yes Greeks created man-buns as well.

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:D
 

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"The Salted Saga": Chapter 4 . . .

Kayso, I have a hypothesis (have had, have been harboring).
[pro'ly now Aal is gonna tell me that the Greeks invented Hypothesis :rolleyes:]*​

And I now have the tools to begin testing.

The Hypothesis:

One thing I've noticed is that there's wildly divergent anecdotals about gunking and burny coils with the Salts.
And I'd been wondering about the possible factors that would be consistent to any one vaper and/but yield such (seemingly random) black or white results in the aggregate.

Because of my Nickel thing (intolerance), there's only certain wire compositions that I'm willing to use on a regular basis. Really, just SS430 and Kanthal.
Kanthal was really the only viable wire for the resistance I wanted in the Divo. There just isn't enough room in there for the mass of wire I'd need to run SS430 (at suitable resistance).

Kanthal wire, as we all know, is designed to form a layer of Aluminum Oxide on its surface when heated.
Other wire compositions are not (to the best of my knowledge).

Do y'all see where I'm going with this? :?: :)

So, the "hypothesis" is that the aluminum oxide layer that Kanthal is designed to produce somehow interacts with the nic salts (protonated nic . . . . electrical/ionic/pH thing) to form the coil-killer layer.

The Tools and the Testing:

So, the other wee-tiny atomizers I got finally arrived. Basically the same size as the Divo, but configured such that I can get a substantially larger coil in there.
So, now I've got enough room to run a 10.5 wrap of SS430 on a 3/32" I.D.
Also, hey! look at this! I've got these brick-____-house dual batt. mods with variable voltage!
So, I can further mitigate the super-low resistance of the SS430.

So, I've got this largish SS430 coil in a weensy wittow atty, sitting atop this rather large (and very square) mod, and powering it at a whopping 3.7V (netting around 13W).

And I'm vapin' it. (and liking it)

And now I'm gonna vape it until: (a) the coil goes to crap, just like all the others, or (b) magic happens and nic salts don't kill the coil quite so fast.

*funny, because, well, yeah, sort of did
 
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