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In Ohio, parents can be fined and serve jail sentence for allowing a minor to "use" a vape product. Currently, legal age in Ohio is 18, but there is legislation at this time to move it to 21, "for the sake of the children".
Those laws vary by state.

But the reality is, if I had a 16 year old offspring who was smoking, I'd much rather (s)he be vaping, and I would help them procure appropriate stuff regardless of the law.
 

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Those laws vary by state.

But the reality is, if I had a 16 year old offspring who was smoking, I'd much rather (s)he be vaping, and I would help them procure appropriate stuff regardless of the law.
I would, too. But reality is, teens vaping gives vapers a bad name, and are sadly influencing lawmakers and the FDA to make unneccessary laws and regulations which negatively effect nearly all vapers. It's sensational news reporting of teen vapers and exploding e-cigs which place vaping in a negative light to the public at large.
 

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    I would, too. But reality is, teens vaping gives vapers a bad name, and are sadly influencing lawmakers and the FDA to make unneccessary laws and regulations which negatively effect nearly all vapers. It's sensational news reporting of teen vapers and exploding e-cigs which place vaping in a negative light to the public at large.
    They must be running low on sensational vaping news reporting, since they are rehashing/reporting on a story that happened 15 months ago.
     

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    In Ohio, parents can be fined and serve jail sentence for allowing a minor to "use" a vape product. Currently, legal age in Ohio is 18, but there is legislation at this time to move it to 21, "for the sake of the children".

    Didn't see that coming. It was a long time ago but I believe it was my father, law professor, that said it was legal for a parent to let their kids try alcohol in the home. That was Oregon a long time ago. I don't even remember how it came up, I thought the stuff stunk as a kid.

    Plus I've heard various people say similar things about drinking and smoking or vaping. Didn't track what states and I don't know which laws might have changed. I started smoking at 12, I also wanted to quit at 12 but couldn't. Wish an ecig had been available then and my parents would let me use it. Like Rossum, if my kid smoked, I'd give them an ecig.

    It is the kids vaping that is killing it but they tried a lot of different tactics to stop vaping and the old "it's for the children" excuse that stuck. Wonder how many of those kids will turn to smoking when ecigs are out of their reach.

    They must be running low on sensational vaping news reporting, since they are rehashing/reporting on a story that happened 15 months ago.

    Possible that now is when the doctor talked to the press?
     

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    He repeated the line over and over again in the emergency room"

    So he could still talk. That's good. I hope that fact is pointed out by a news outlet but it won't be.

    If I had "shattered all my teeth" I would not be talking. I know this because when the oral surgeons removed all 24 teeth it took them longer than they thought, and I kept waking up. That is not good time to wake up frankly. The best I could manage was to FLAIL wildly and moan.

    Not only that, I was charged about 5K for the experience.

    I wanna have sympathy I do. but then I got implants put it without sedation OR anything other than Advil. So I am having a bit of a tough time with sympathy being the Oral Mistress of pain. Etc.

    Anna
     

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    So he could still talk. That's good. I hope that fact is pointed out by a news outlet but it won't be.

    If I had "shattered all my teeth" I would not be talking. I know this because when the oral surgeons removed all 24 teeth it took them longer than they thought, and I kept waking up. That is not good time to wake up frankly. The best I could manage was to FLAIL wildly and moan.

    Not only that, I was charged about 5K for the experience.

    I wanna have sympathy I do. but then I got implants put it without sedation OR anything other than Advil. So I am having a bit of a tough time with sympathy being the Oral Mistress of pain. Etc.

    Anna

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    So he could still talk. That's good. I hope that fact is pointed out by a news outlet but it won't be.

    If I had "shattered all my teeth" I would not be talking. I know this because when the oral surgeons removed all 24 teeth it took them longer than they thought, and I kept waking up. That is not good time to wake up frankly. The best I could manage was to FLAIL wildly and moan.

    Not only that, I was charged about 5K for the experience.

    I wanna have sympathy I do. but then I got implants put it without sedation OR anything other than Advil. So I am having a bit of a tough time with sympathy being the Oral Mistress of pain. Etc.

    Anna
    I woke up during mine also, I made eye contact with a nurse standing there and instantly they juiced me to the gills.

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    So he could still talk. That's good. I hope that fact is pointed out by a news outlet but it won't be.

    If I had "shattered all my teeth" I would not be talking. I know this because when the oral surgeons removed all 24 teeth it took them longer than they thought, and I kept waking up. That is not good time to wake up frankly. The best I could manage was to FLAIL wildly and moan.

    Not only that, I was charged about 5K for the experience.

    I wanna have sympathy I do. but then I got implants put it without sedation OR anything other than Advil. So I am having a bit of a tough time with sympathy being the Oral Mistress of pain. Etc.

    Anna

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    It's not just sensational news reporting, it's irresponsible news reporting to repeatedly use their position to spread fear largely without ever providing useful information. They rarely ever talk to anyone that knows anything except something bad happened. They warn against it while ignoring that smoking is the original fire hazard.
     

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    The waking up wasn't quite the worst part actually. The worst part was as the were draping some apron on top of me, they then unveiled the "tools' They were on this HUGE round like rolling table and they looked like blacksmith tools. Or something out of medieval times.

    They got me back under quick enough that I was okay.

    I vastly hated more the implant surgeries on Novocain only. My oral surgeon had like, forearms the size of IDK, large logs. There is a reason for this, I discovered. He was pretty ah, forceful.

    He did call me his "best awake" patient ever but it's because I just lay there, doing what he wanted, while praying "Oh GOD get met through this" infinity times.

    LOL I always left there looking like the victim of domestic abuse like someone had punched me in the face repeatedly. In fact, I went there to fix a "minor" complaint right before a job interview and he was getting ready to turn my "minor problem" into something major. I sat bolt upright and said, "I can't do this now! I have a job interview tomorrow! I can't go looking like I've been punched in the face and it happens EVERY time!"
    I think he was offended, he was like, "You do not!" And I was like, "Yes, I do!" Etc.

    He also often told me to open my mouth more. One time I said, "I can't. I have a small mouth!" He was like, "Your mouth is FINE you just need to learn to open it wider."

    I couldn't decide quite what to make of that statement. LOL.

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    When I was a kid I stuffed a massive gobstopper into my gob. That I believe is a jawbreaker to our American cousins. I couldn't get it back out again. It was like the biggest gobstopper in the whole world. My jaw felt like it was gonna just come off at the hinge and I just had to wait until it dissolved smaller and came out. I couldn't ask for help because my dad would have killed me. We weren't allowed gobstoppers. I never did touch one again.
     

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    I'm so sorry, that's terrible. It really is! If it's any consolation one time we were visiting relatives and I was eating an apple and a huge chunk of it wound up in the back of my sinus cavity and like, I was too little to figure out to ask for help or anything!

    I just wandered around for days, feeling uncomfortable. It eventually rolled itself up into a tube and came out of my nose.

    I'm really glad it did that. REALLY glad. I have approached apples with caution since then. Like, "Sauce" is good.

    Anna
     

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    Trust me it's not. Maybe if you do pain meds it's okay, but I can't. I am way too fond of them and they send me on trajectories that are not GOOD.

    Also., well I think a tooth implant is a bit more wussy than dental implants. They make them huge, because there are fewer of them.

    By the time you've had 4 GIANT titanium implants drilled into your bone, you usually feel pretty ill. Fairly often, I puked after my surgeries, it sucked so much.

    The bill is a special kind of pain but nothing like the implant process.

    Anna
     

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    I got one titanium implant to replace two teeth. It was originally a bridge, where the anchoring tooth cracked and had to go. The titanium implant didn't hurt at all. Its top felt strangely cold, as if its "root" was close to nasal passages or something. It cost about $3500, with dental insurance paying about half.
     
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