100 people smoking analogs, zero vapers

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...see somebody in their car with their hand out the window holding a cigarette as if that's going to help prevent them from stinking.
Ah, that sure does bring back memories of the old times...

but I'm not going to go out of my way to try to ask parents to calm their children, or make them turn their smartphone down or whatever.
The wife and I were having breakfast at the Broken Yolk.
There was a couple directly across from us with a kid that wouldn't shut up.

They looked at us and smiled, even threw in a few laughs...
Probably thought we should find it cute.

We didn't smile back.
 
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Let's not make excuses. I've seen that so many times on this forum and I just want to say what's on my mind but I don't. But your reply for some reason has seen to open the door to my mind and I have a ton of things that I want to say on the subject, however I'm going to try to just stick to the context of what I wrote.

Stealth vaping seems to be more of a way of saying "I know I am not allowed to vape where I'm at, but I'm going to do it anyway, I'll just stealth vape". If somebody can seriously not go for an hour and has to stealth vape in a place that is designated as non smoking, non vaping then it's time to seek professional help with your addiction to nicotine. Stealth vaping indicates they are doing it stealthily to avoid detection in an area that they know they should not be doing it. It is to the people that I've seen and smelled doing this that I was directing my comment.

I'm good and well tired of smelling chocolate mints, or fruit loops when I'm at a restaurant and I look around and can't see the culprit.... Why can't I see them? Because they are obviously trying to "stealth" vape and I wasn't quick enough to spot them so I have nobody to go to and ask politely to stop doing that in the restaurant as I find their smell rather unpleasant while we're trying to eat.

My post was aimed at those that know they should not be vaping (like on a train, plane, bus, or some public places) but go ahead and do so anyway and try to hide it.

I was not implying there is something wrong with the people that chain vape, but I will imply that there is something wrong with people that feel the need to stealth vape in areas that are offlimits to that and have to do so stealthily as if they really are...... I may not be fast enough to catch them exhale, but I can smell it and some times it's purely unpleasant. They invade the space of others in places like buses, restaurants, planes, trains etc. What makes you think it's okay to vape when they say it's offlimits but you wouldn't think of lighting up a smoke when it's offlimits in a plane, etc. I'm really just fed up with it. Went out for a nice dinner last Saturday night and somebody was stealth vaping in the restaurant somewhere, and sorry but their foul smelling juice just didn't mix with Suishi.
personally i stealth vape because i can.
of course knowing that it drives some people batty is a
thrill in and of itself.;)
i am a vaper,therefore i vape.
it doesn't bother me one bit.
:D
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I took a trip to a local mall this morning, and I was outside for a few hours just walking around. During the trip, I must've seen approximately 100 people puffing on analogs, and besides myself, I did not see one single person vaping. Not on a cig-alike, not on an ego, not on a mod, not on anything.

I know that vaping is more popular than ever before, but I sure wouldn't know that just by walking around outside. I vape just as if I were smoking an analog, which means very often, and when I'm walking around outside, I am often vaping. I wonder where all of the vape people are. Are they all hiding inside?

I'm not going to judge anybody who still uses cancer sticks, because I used to be one of those people not that long ago, but I feel that the vaping industry should do a better job of advertising how much better vaping is than smoking analogs in every single way.
I've just seen two in my whole country vaping. In total. So many smokes, no vapers.
 

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Vaping seems to be much more popular among teens and boys in their 20s. Problem is, not only has vaping gotten falsely bad press, it is too complicated for most smokers. Roll your own smokers are much more prone to vaping since they already invest time in their habit. But regular smokers just want to buy a pack, smoke it, buy a pack, smoke it, etc, etc, etc.

Earlier this month, I was stranded in one of the smaller, major cities in the USA for 5 days. I was the only person I saw vaping. I walked many miles and all I saw was smoker, no vapers. I only talked to 2 smokers that were somewhat interested in what I was doing, but as I explained a couple things to them, they quickly became uninterested. Why? Because it was nowhere near as easy as smoking a cigarette for them.
 

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Vaping seems to be much more popular among teens and boys in their 20s. Problem is, not only has vaping gotten falsely bad press, it is too complicated for most smokers. Roll your own smokers are much more prone to vaping since they already invest time in their habit. But regular smokers just want to buy a pack, smoke it, buy a pack, smoke it, etc, etc, etc.

Earlier this month, I was stranded in one of the smaller, major cities in the USA for 5 days. I was the only person I saw vaping. I walked many miles and all I saw was smoker, no vapers. I only talked to 2 smokers that were somewhat interested in what I was doing, but as I explained a couple things to them, they quickly became uninterested. Why? Because it was nowhere near as easy as smoking a cigarette for them.

I think the ease of it -- or lack thereof -- is more of an issue with those who aren't really wild about the idea of quitting, just "know they should." If the real desire is there, then willingness to do whatever is necessary is usually also there, since there's so much less of the withdrawal angst with vaping than with any other method. Those who want an easy way to quit, they'll do it; those who want a magic wand... they won't.

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I don't think vaping is as popular in the US as many believe; there's also dual users; perhaps they smoke when outside and vape indoors...

You are right about that. I was sitting in a vapor lounge one day and a woman came in to buy a vape, saying that she only wanted it to use where she couldn't smoke. Sad...
 

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Anyone else have vape stand in their mall.

There's a vape stand in the Coastland mall in Naples, and I stopped there one day to talk to the guy running it. He didn't know jack about vaping, and insisted that my vapor was smoke. He was there selling ego/clearo starter kits, and didn't vape himself.
 

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I think the ease of it -- or lack thereof -- is more of an issue with those who aren't really wild about the idea of quitting, just "know they should." If the real desire is there, then willingness to do whatever is necessary is usually also there, since there's so much less of the withdrawal angst with vaping than with any other method. Those who want an easy way to quit, they'll do it; those who want a magic wand... they won't.

Andria

I find that the older the person is, the less willing thye are to move over to vaping. There are those that break the mold, but that is for the most part the case. However, there are plenty of young smokers I have spoken to and they are just not interested because it simply isn't as mindless as smoking.

There's a vape stand in the Coastland mall in Naples, and I stopped there one day to talk to the guy running it. He didn't know jack about vaping,

This is my experience with ALL the vape shops I have ever been to. The ones who do seem to know something about it are snobby cloud chasers. One of my local vape shops is owned and run by a local yokle who is a known drug dealer. The guy has no clue about vaping. This is why I buy everything online. Well, that and the price. lol. Most vape shops are opened by people who were looking to make a quick buck. As prices and profit margins fall due to the vast accessibility of stuff online, they regret their decision.
 

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    I think vape shops, etc. need to start emphasizing to the public not only that it is safer than smoking, but more enjoyable. Just making it safer means it's something that reminds people of how much they were hurting themselves, especially if they think it's a struggle to switch. It has immediate rewards. I can't figure out why some catch the vape bug and others it goes right on by. Perhaps it does take some imagination to see how what at first may be fleeting glimpes of awesome flavor and immersion will get better as your knowledge increases and your taste buds recover. The subtleties cannot be demonstrated to a smoker. 2 out of 3 friends I'd like to see stop smoking are chefs :facepalm: .

    Yesterday I saw a stealth vaper and almost missed it. It can be subtle. But earlier this year I went to a outdoor southern rock concert and there were many vapers, most I noticed with boxes.
     

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    I find that the older the person is, the less willing thye are to move over to vaping. There are those that break the mold, but that is for the most part the case. However, there are plenty of young smokers I have spoken to and they are just not interested because it simply isn't as mindless as smoking.

    I think the mindlessness is more of a problem than either the age OR the smoking. :D Stupidity isn't confined to any particular age-group; unfortunately, it's everywhere, all the time.

    Young people are also still suffering under the delusion that "it won't happen to them" -- whatever *IT* might be. Just as they can't grasp why mom and dad and gramma and gramps make those noises when they rise from a seated position -- their young bodies still work perfectly, they have no conception of joint-pain, or just hurting when you move something. They think those coughing-hacking noises the old folks make are gross -- never realizing that smoking guarantees that they'll end up making the same noises. ;) That's actually how I encouraged one of my son's friends to quit playing with cigarettes, when the kids were about 12. I said, you know that gross awful noise I make, clearing my throat? He nods, making the "icky" face. I said, just wait, in 10-20 yrs, you'll be making very similar noises, in order to get rid of similar crud in your chest. My son told me that the boy stopped playing with cigarettes within a few days of hearing that. :D

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