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Bill's Magic Vapor

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And I even highlighted it for you and you passed right over it "can cause wicking, flooding, leaking issues." Pay attention, because that part is not true.

The fact is that juice can and does contribute to wicking issues as cited in my post. Just do some research on the subject and you'll find this to be true in many cases. The facts and the many threads on this subject speak for themselves. If you have not had that problem, then that's great and good for you. Many others, though, have had that problem. With all due respect, I have also been vaping since 2009, and have been through many of these same experiences myself. Different strokes for different folks.
 

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The reason why I asked this question is because I started vaping 3 weeks ago and have had increased tinntus (ringing in the ears) since then. I got 18mg nic juices with my starter kit. My tinnitus has been going on for 3 years. But since vaping, it has increased (I've noticed) with higher nic level juices (12 and 18mg). So I'm thinking lower nic levels will mean less ringing or what I call since vaping "raging". (ringing AND roaring).

I heard that more PG raising throat hit...which it seems is what I'm missing with the lower nic levels. I had posted about this. So ultimately - I need to be satisfied with throat hit AND a lower nic volume...which, from what I've read, is hard to find! I'm ready to order 100% PG, as long as it poses no problems to my equipment (in my siggy) and produces the TH I need. :/ hopefully!
 

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The reason why I asked this question is because I started vaping 3 weeks ago and have had increased tinntus (ringing in the ears) since then. I got 18mg nic juices with my starter kit. My tinnitus has been going on for 3 years. But since vaping, it has increased (I've noticed) with higher nic level juices (12 and 18mg). So I'm thinking lower nic levels will mean less ringing or what I call since vaping "raging". (ringing AND roaring).

I heard that more PG raising throat hit...which it seems is what I'm missing with the lower nic levels. I had posted about this. So ultimately - I need to be satisfied with throat hit AND a lower nic volume...which, from what I've read, is hard to find! I'm ready to order 100% PG, as long as it poses no problems to my equipment (in my siggy) and produces the TH I need. :/ hopefully!

I've never had a problem with PG in my atty. It's much thinner than VG and rarely clogs up tanks. Be warned: Some people are allergic to propylene glycol, so don't get 3,000ml of PG fluid until you're sure you can handle it. Good luck!
 

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Honestly, I almost feel ready to take out a Winston Light (still have a full pack that I was hoping to keep for years and years). Just to get that satisfaction. Because I've lowered nic levels down to 6mg and it's like smoking an ultra light after a RED!! :glare: Like air!! But, alas, I know I'm new and still need to find my right mix. And in that, seems to be the proper nic mg level, PG/VG combo, flavor and probably even mod and tank set up. *sigh* I'm feeling like a higher PG level and 6mg would ultimately be best. But HOW high? Is 100% PG okay for my Kanger evod??
 

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Honestly, I almost feel ready to take out a Winston Light (still have a full pack that I was hoping to keep for years and years). Just to get that satisfaction. Because I've lowered nic levels down to 6mg and it's like smoking an ultra light after a RED!! :glare: Like air!! But, alas, I know I'm new and still need to find my right mix. And in that, seems to be the proper nic mg level, PG/VG combo, flavor and probably even mod and tank set up. *sigh* I'm feeling like a higher PG level and 6mg would ultimately be best. But HOW high? Is 100% PG okay for my Kanger evod??

You should be just fine. The evod has two flavor wicks and is an excellent topper. Please give it a try. If you do have any problem, we can probably help you with it. there are many "tricks" that work great with the evod.
 

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You should be just fine. The evod has two flavor wicks and is an excellent topper. Please give it a try. If you do have any problem, we can probably help you with it. there are many "tricks" that work great with the evod.

Thanks "Bill"? You've been a great help in this thread. It's much appreciated!
 

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The reason why I asked this question is because I started vaping 3 weeks ago and have had increased tinntus (ringing in the ears) since then. I got 18mg nic juices with my starter kit. My tinnitus has been going on for 3 years. But since vaping, it has increased (I've noticed) with higher nic level juices (12 and 18mg). So I'm thinking lower nic levels will mean less ringing or what I call since vaping "raging". (ringing AND roaring).

I heard that more PG raising throat hit...which it seems is what I'm missing with the lower nic levels. I had posted about this. So ultimately - I need to be satisfied with throat hit AND a lower nic volume...which, from what I've read, is hard to find! I'm ready to order 100% PG, as long as it poses no problems to my equipment (in my siggy) and produces the TH I need. :/ hopefully!

I would give it shot and see. Also, I've read several different posts on ECF about this condition, and so you might want to search for tinntus on the Forum. I know that others have found ways to make it work just fine. Go for it, at test levels, say no more than 15 ml or 30 mls tops. Good luck to you and welcome to the Forum.
 

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That's just plain WRONG, I've been vaping 100% PG for 4 years now and have had fewer of those problems than using PG/VG mixes. I've tried the VG trip and all it did was cause problems, anytime I use more than 20% VG I get a heavy feeling in my chest and can't stop coughing. Plus sticking with PG my cartos last a lot longer and I don't have to clean my tanks out as often. And all the studies that's proven ecigs are safe, are done with PG, not VG, no one knows what VG will do to you. All your doing is spewing the ignorant fabrications from people on here who don't know how to do research.

Oy! :facepalm:

No, it's not plain wrong, it's actually plain right. 100% PG juices are thinner and, in some toppers, are more likely to leak than thicker VG blends. That's just a fact.

You may have sensitivity to VG--many people do. I can't vape anything with more that 40% VG because I get the same heavy feeling in my chest and I feel like my mouth is coated with film. I prefer 70/20 or 70/30 PG/VG blends. However, saying that VG is somehow less safe than PG is controversial, to say the least. Can you point us to any scientific evidence? Yes, PG has been tested more than VG, but I haven't seen anything that shows that VG might be hazardous to our health. A sugar molecule is a sugar molecule. ;) Our bodies know how to metabolize them.

Neither PG nor VG will gunk up your coils--it's a myth that I see perpetuated even here on this forum. The gunk on the coils comes from unvaporized particles of sweeteners, colorings, flavorings and, possibly, some residues left from naturally extracted tobaccos. PG and VG vape cleanly and I often use them to clean atomizer coils--I just vape a tankful of unflavored to dissolve some of the goo from the coils. It works like a charm.
 
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Honestly, I almost feel ready to take out a Winston Light (still have a full pack that I was hoping to keep for years and years). Just to get that satisfaction. Because I've lowered nic levels down to 6mg and it's like smoking an ultra light after a RED!! :glare: Like air!! But, alas, I know I'm new and still need to find my right mix. And in that, seems to be the proper nic mg level, PG/VG combo, flavor and probably even mod and tank set up. *sigh* I'm feeling like a higher PG level and 6mg would ultimately be best. But HOW high? Is 100% PG okay for my Kanger evod??

There are other things that are known to increase TH, if that's what you're after: more PG, higher wattage, strong flavors or even adding a drop or two of vodka or rum (per ml) to your eliquid. You could also try dual-coil cartomizers--they produce twice the vapor of single coils. Using a top-coil clearomizer like a ViVi Nova may also increase TH because of the proximity of the heating coil to your mouth. If you need more nicotine, have you considered using gum or a patch in conjunction with vaping?
 
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I have been using 80PG/20VG mix since my second week of vaping. I use Protanks and haven't had an issue with leaking. I did get some juice once that was 100% PG. Good flavor, but the next day I noticed the tip of my tongue seemed overly sensitive. I now check more closely on the mixture. Mt Baker let's you pick your mix. You can do any ratio of PG/VG you want. Good luck in your quest. Stay strong and resist the stinkies.

P.S. You might try some juice with "ice" in the name. Everything I tried like that had a very strong throat hit.
 
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That's just plain WRONG, I've been vaping 100% PG for 4 years now and have had fewer of those problems than using PG/VG mixes. I've tried the VG trip and all it did was cause problems, anytime I use more than 20% VG I get a heavy feeling in my chest and can't stop coughing. Plus sticking with PG my cartos last a lot longer and I don't have to clean my tanks out as often. And all the studies that's proven ecigs are safe, are done with PG, not VG, no one knows what VG will do to you. All your doing is spewing the ignorant fabrications from people on here who don't know how to do research.

Actually there were 2 studies done in regards to PG versus VG- the first concluded it was safer to vape PG. The second concluded it was safer to vape VG :confused:
As far as PG versus VG from a personal perspective I've converted over 600 people and am responsible, within a non profit vape prog, for over 400 people. Their preferred PG/ VG ratio is 70/ 30 PG/ VG. Higher PG generally gave harsh vapes and leakage. There's a very small number of converts (7%) that need custom juices- either very high PG or very high VG BUT with these diff ratios come issues.- poor wicking, leakage, no vapor, harshness, absence of flavor, etc. It's all very personal and what's good for me or the vaper standing next to me is not necessarily the right ratio for the next convert that walks thru the door.
 

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Actually there were 2 studies done in regards to PG versus VG- the first concluded it was safer to vape PG. The second concluded it was safer to vape VG :confused:
As far as PG versus VG from a personal perspective I've converted over 600 people and am responsible, within a non profit vape prog, for over 400 people. Their preferred PG/ VG ratio is 70/ 30 PG/ VG. Higher PG generally gave harsh vapes and leakage. There's a very small number of converts (7%) that need custom juices- either very high PG or very high VG BUT with these diff ratios come issues.- poor wicking, leakage, no vapor, harshness, absence of flavor, etc. It's all very personal and what's good for me or the vaper standing next to me is not necessarily the right ratio for the next convert that walks thru the door.

Shocking! So, there's no one right way, and different strokes for different folks rules? Thank you for this info Vapoor Eyes, I think it helps the OP to get a more accurate picture about the use of PG and VG. Also, I want to congratulate you for the outstanding work you have done and are doing with your non-profit. It's truly amazing how many people you have helped. I also want to thank you for helping me this last year. Your fair and impartial reviews have helped me in my vaping, and kept me off smoking, a priceless gift! Your perspective is simply invaluable, given the number of people you have converted to vaping, and your tireless contributions to ECF is very commendable and extraordinary. Thank you for weighing in. All the best!
 

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Oy! :facepalm:

No, it's not plain wrong, it's actually plain right. 100% PG juices are thinner and, in some toppers, are more likely to leak than thicker VG blends. That's just a fact.

You may have sensitivity to VG--many people do. I can't vape anything with more that 40% VG because I get the same heavy feeling in my chest and I feel like my mouth is coated with film. I prefer 70/20 or 70/30 PG/VG blends. However, saying that VG is somehow less safe than PG is controversial, to say the least. Can you point us to any scientific evidence? Yes, PG has been tested more than VG, but I haven't seen anything that shows that VG might be hazardous to our health. A sugar molecule is a sugar molecule. ;) Our bodies know how to metabolize them.

Neither PG nor VG will gunk up your coils--it's a myth that I see perpetuated even here on this forum. The gunk on the coils comes from unvaporized particles of sweeteners, colorings, flavorings and, possibly, some residues left from naturally extracted tobaccos. PG and VG vape cleanly and I often use them to clean atomizer coils--I just vape a tankful of unflavored to dissolve some of the goo from the coils. It works like a charm.

As always, thank you for weighing in Katya. I think that the OP needs to hear from as many members as possible regarding her use of PG/VG and her circumstances with vaping. I appreciate you clarifying these issues for the OP, particularly given the strident and harsh views of some of the posters. The new members need our support and accurate information, and you provide this with clarity and precision. I know I always learn a lot from you and Vapoor Eyes, and thank you! All the best!
 

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Shocking! So, there's no one right way, and different strokes for different folks rules? Thank you for this info Vapoor Eyes, I think it helps the OP to get a more accurate picture about the use of PG and VG. Also, I want to congratulate you for the outstanding work you have done and are doing with your non-profit. It's truly amazing how many people you have helped. I also want to thank you for helping me this last year. Your fair and impartial reviews have helped me in my vaping, and kept me off smoking, a priceless gift! Your perspective is simply invaluable, given the number of people you have converted to vaping, and your tireless contributions to ECF is very commendable and extraordinary. Thank you for weighing in. All the best!
:thumb: +1 to Vapoor Eyes. He has been proven time and again to be an asset to the ECF community along with Katya, yourself, and many others, in particular in the New Members forum. It is amazing the number of converts that Vapoor Eyes has. Kudo's!

Education is key to the success of new vapors, and those who donate their time, knowledge, & experience give them an invaluable head start to success.
 
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